NFL Weight Limit
Posted by SBG on Tuesday, January 31st, 2006 at 12:52 pm
The NFL is seemingly made of teflon -- nothing sticks to it. While sportswriters will pile on the NBA and MLB with reckless abandon, the NFL is nearly sacrosanct.
Of course, I have a personal bias like everyone else. But, for my money, the NFL has steadily become less interesting to me over the years, even as it becomes more and more entrenched as America's game.
I've talked about this at length with my friends and there are several reasons why. First of all, I think the players have a terrible collective bargaining agreement. I think the idea of non-guaranteed contracts is ridiculous. I know I have plenty of resistance out there (Moss), but I maintain that if a team can cut a player at any time for any reason and not pay out the contract, a player should be able to terminate a contract if he feels he can get more elsewhere. That, my friends, is the American way. What the NFL has is serfdom. Highly paid, yes. But, in the world of professional sports, NFL players aren't even close to any of the other sports in terms of compensation, much less security.
Secondly, the rate of injuries in football is nothing short of catastrophic. I have hard time supressing my compassion for these guys. They are young men, and they are subjected to horrific injuries, extremely painful injuries. Yes, it's all voluntary. Yes, they are highly paid. Nevertheless, I find it hard to get all excited about watching a sport that makes a meat grinder out of its competitors.
Third, I find the specialization and over coaching going on to be intolerable. At one time, this was a game where the QB called his own plays. They didn't have coaches in the press box, with a pile of charts radioing the play down into the QB's ear. The QB led his team. Now, if a guy like Peyton Manning calls his own plays he's criticized for not listening to the coaches. The league needs more players like Manning and not less. It needs brilliance on the field that includes brains, not automatons.
If I were in charge of improving the level of play, I'd do the following things:
1. Institute a weight limit. The NFL doesn't need 350 pound linemen. I've thought that the weight limit should be 250 pounds, but I'd settle at 275. There are people that agree with me. When players were smaller, the game was more open, there were fewer injuries and speed was more of a factor. Now, we've got tons of men falling on each other, destroying knees and ankles and legs. It's no good. Slowly move the weight limit down, but get it to 275 in five years. If you are too fat, too bad. Oh, and weigh everyone three times a week. No cutting weight like wrestlers.
2. Limit the rosters. At one time, the league had 40 man rosters. Now, it's 53 plus any number of inactive players and practice squads, et al. Too many. That breeds specialization. With smaller players, the premium will be on all around skill, not whether you can rush the passer on third down. With smaller players, injuries will be less of a factor. If the player's union will go for a hard salary cap and non-guaranteed contracts, they'll roll over for this, too.
3. Limit the length of contracts. No ten-year deals. Maximum five years. Eliminate the "signing bonus" nonsense used for salary cap purposes. Guarantee the contracts, or at least allow guaranteed contracts. Non-guaranteed contracts are not only bad for the players, I'll argue that they are bad for the game. If the contracts are guaranteed, GMs will have to think about moves more carefully, because they can't just cut their mistakes.
4. No hard salary cap. Institute a soft cap like the NBA with the "Larry Bird" rule. Institute a luxury tax for teams that spend over a certain amount. The hard cap/non-guaranteed contract does more to ensure mediocrity than anything else. As soon as a team is good, the rest of the league, in effect, taxes that team back down into mediocrity. Anyone with even a modicum of free market sensibility has to cringe at that. Socialism at its finest to benefit only the owners of the NFL teams.
5. Eliminate headsets in helmets. What the hell. Make these guys think. Let's have some fun instead of automotan performance.
6. Change the IR rule. No way should it be out for the season or nothing. How about a 4 game disabled list?
These are some thoughts.


A couple quick comments (and these are based on hearsay -- if someone can provide correct info, please do):
1) Teams may not be allowed to cut injured players (although it may be true that their salary is halved).
2) Players who are on the opening-day roster are guaranteed some minimum or some percentage of their salary...not sure which.
But other than disagreeing on the harshness of the CBA, Moss would favor many of your suggested changes. No headsets, weight limit, DL, etc. Moss would like a 20-yd end zone like in the CFL, too. And get rid of the FG and extra points.
Moss:
Looked it up.
No termination pay after first game unless the player has four years of service in the league. Can only get termination pay once per career (it is the balance of the salary for that season alone).
In case of termination for injury, gets 50% of salary for that year up to a $250,000 benefit. So if you have a $2,000,000 deal, you get a 12.5% benefit. Nothing for seasons beyond that.
Moss would take a $250k severance package...
I completely agree with your diagnosis, SBG (I feel as if I have been saying that too much recently - must find points of disagreement in future). As an English ex-pat who grew up playing the real football (you know, where you use your feet instead of your hands) and rugby, I have always loathed the completely coach-centric nature of the NFL.
NFL players are obviously tremendous athletes, but they are specialists who do one or two things well and, as you say, they are not required to think. Watching sports that require intelligence as well as a range of physical skills are far more entertaining, I think (hence my appreciation for NBA players, like Steve Nash, the post-baseball MJ, Magic, Bill Russel etc., who won because they out-thought the opposition while sprinting up and down the court).
Unfortunately, I think it is too late for the NFL to reverse course and return to the player-centric game from which it evolved and I don't think it would ever want to anyway. It is hamstrung by the rules, which end every play as soon as the ball carrier is tackled or a pass falls incomplete, followed by a 45 second break for each side to reorganize and the coach to call a new play for the players to execute at full speed.
For me, the most entertaining part of a footbal game is the 2-minute drill. If the rules could be changed such that the whole game was being played like that, it would be more interesting and challenging for the players and remove some of the coaches' influence.
A few proposals to that end. First safety:
1) I agree with the weight limit - 300 pounds tops, 275 is probably better.
2) Padding needs to be reduced - as a rugby player, those helmets and hard plastic pads cause more damage than they prevent because they enable defenders to tackle with absolutely no thought for life or limb. Reduce to soft rubber/foam type padding with a maximum density, thickness etc. Not sure what to do about the helmets, I would like to see them go, replaced by rugby style helmets without face masks (see Natalie Portman in Garden State) But I don't knw if this is plausible
3) DL stuff you proposed is fine.
4) Reduce the roster to 40, ostensibly 19 each for offense and defense, plus a kicker and punter - no more special teams because of:
The new game rules:
1) Obviously no more microphones in QB helmets.
2) Once a drive starts, only one substitution permitted between each play (one player on, one player off) for both offense and defense. Multiple substitutions only permitted when the clock is stopped by timeout, out of bounds, or the end of a quarter, NOT an incomplete pass, which no longer stops the clock (this would have the effect of requiring the offense to have to operate as the special team, with the punter or kicker being the one sub (no long snapper!) - very tricky - or requiring QBs to learn how to drop kick out of the shot-gun - what fun!)
3) Reduce play clock to 30 seconds, putting more onus on the QB to call plays and requiring greater fitness levels of all players, (rather than the current 5-10 seconds of play followed by 45 seconds of rest) this would almost mandate the weight limit by itself.
4) Widen the field by ten yards and widen the hash marks by five yards.
I think this would make the entire game more like the 2-minute drill, which is when the players are allowed to play and the coaches just have to watch and discuss tactics between series.
This would be a huge aesthetic shock to the football watching public who like their sanitized and disinfected game and none of it will ever happen; however, I bet the players would enjoy it a hell of a lot more, as would I as a spectator. It would be an entirely more challenging and real sport than the made for TV, hollywood version of football the NFL currently presents. Apologies for the length.
Yes, I forgot the limited substitution. I like the wider field and hash marks, too.
With reduced rosters, you'll see more 2-way players.
Plus, the clock should not run in the final two minutes unless the offense has moved the ball forward. No more taking a knee!
I'll chime in, thanks for asking!
I'll go with the weight limit, 300 lbs sounds good, but I think every other week is fine for checking. Guys are not going to gain and drop an excessive amt of weight in that time. They go over 300, they are suspended for 2 weeks, re-weighed at that time, if fail again, 2 more weeks of suspension and so on.
I'd go with a 45 man roster, have a practice squad of 9. Gotta have players in case of injuries.
Like the IR rule.
I know better than to argue contracts with a lawyer.
Oh, and 3 preseason games max. One of the biggest wastes of time out there and a too many injuries happen there. Teams want more work, they are free to schedule scrimmages against other teams.
SBG - You will have much more knowledge from the law perspective than a commoner like myself, but how do you think the player's union/Nate Newton types would react to a weight limit? I don't see how such a limit could exist legally. I realize these will probably never happen so are hypothetical points, but I have a hard time seeing how this would be acceptable. Thanks.
DiggityDino
Something like a weight limit would never happen in Baseball, their union is too strong. But, the players' union in the NFL is very weak. It has to be collectively bargained, agreed upon. It's not a legal issue really, it's whether the players would agree to it. I think that a lot of players would agree to it, if it was presented to them this way: it will prolong careers and have a positive effect on your health. A lot of big guys are already concerned about carrying too much weight.
If I were actually going to try to implement this, I'd do something like setting the weight limit at 350 or something and drop it 25 pounds a year until it was at 275. That way, the players' could lose the weight and stay in the league.
I agree with every point except the weight limit. I mean, you have compassion for those who get injured, but what about a 330 lineman who was an all american in high school in college, then suddenly has to lose 55 pounds, most of which is muscle. You made your exception to deviate it somewhat from the horrors of wrestling, but I think with a weight limit these horrors are inevitable.
Here's one I haven't heard: eliminating the concept of a "pocket" altogether as far as inetentional grounding reasons? What is so damn special about the edge of the field that allows one to chuck it into the stands there that they cant do in the middle of the field? This would certainly increase the number of interceptions, which is arguably the most excting play in football. Just a thought.
I don't know where you go to high school, but I didn't know any high school kids that were 300 pounds of solid muscle.
Perhaps that's the case now, but how are they getting that big?
If the NFL had a weight limit, there'd be no 300 lb. solid muscle kids playing in high school. Or college.
"2) Padding needs to be reduced - as a rugby player, those helmets and hard plastic pads cause more damage than they prevent because they enable defenders to tackle with absolutely no thought for life or limb. Reduce to soft rubber/foam type padding with a maximum density, thickness etc. Not sure what to do about the helmets, I would like to see them go, replaced by rugby style helmets without face masks (see Natalie Portman in Garden State) But I don't knw if this is plausible"
The problem is that if one changed the equipment overnight, the players' mindset in the game woulnd't change with it, and we'd have 2-3 years with a catastrophic injury rate.
-tootie
TJ, the out-of-pocket exception to intentional grounding exists only to protect the QB. Just like many of the rules. Ideally there wouldn't be any special rules like that, but with today's game there is a perceived or real need to have rules to protect the QB from injury.
250 is way too light, especially for the taller guys.
Some people who weigh more than 250:
Daunte Culpepper
Jim Kleinsaucer
Wally Szczerbiak
Shawn Bradley
Also, as a former rugby player myself, I agree about the padding. How many times do you see a player get injured because he leads with his head. Now if you're not wearing a big ass plastic helmet, who's gonna do that? It would be suicidal.
I don't think the NFL would ever do it though. All the equipment makes them look like warriors and the fans love that.
Tootie: re reducing padding:
I disagree that there would be two or three years of catastrophic injuries. Players are not idiots, you take their helmet off, and they will tackle with their shoulders and arms, not their heads, frankly, the way they should tackle now. If you actually watch most middle linebackers tackle, they do it properly - hitting with a shoulder and wrapping the arms - its the safeties and cornerbacks and hot-dogs (Lavarr Arrington, I'm looking at you) who fly around like head-hunters or knee-hunters.
Have you ever played a pick-up game of contact football with a bunch of guys? People can hit, block, tackle without all that padding and still not get hurt. They don't need to learn how to play without paddding, they instinctively know.
If you watch a professional rugby game on TV you will see those guys hit just as hard, they just do it with far more control and intelligence about how they expose their own bodies to the impact - plus there are rules about dangerous hits (you must wrap, no tackling above the shoulders). I think any fool knows how to take a hit, brace for a blow and turn their body to protect the fragile areas, particularaly the head - its hard-wired into us to an extent.
>Players are not idiots
I'm talking about something I don't know much about, but I never let that stop me before. It just seems like there must be some way to make a helmet that is equally protective but can't be used as a weapon. With all the scientific knowledge at our disposal, and some good old American know-how, can't someone invent a helmet that would protect the head but be made out of a softer material so that it won't hurt someone else?
Maybe I'm wrong, but it just seems like if the NFL really went to work on this, it could come up with something.
Jeff A,
Actually it could be possible, by using a material that has the right "rheology." There are materials, for instance, that get more stiff when an instantaneous pressure is applied, but are supple when a gentle force is applied. Moss believes the term is "thixotropic" but not 100% sure. There are kid's slimes that have that property, for example.
(PS -- Moss was a chemist in a former life.)
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