Comments on: No, The Other Guy http://stickandballguy.com/blog/2006/08/06/no-the-other-guy/ Your Daily Source for Half-Baked Crap Fri, 30 Jul 2010 03:10:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: spycake http://stickandballguy.com/blog/2006/08/06/no-the-other-guy/#comment-17144 spycake Mon, 07 Aug 2006 02:27:13 +0000 http://stickandballguy.com/blog/2006/08/06/no-the-other-guy/#comment-17144 So they <i>all</i> get scaled upward in the translation? That seems odd, especially since Minnesota parks have consistently received hitter-friendly park factors, and they represent three different eras... could this figure be considered the ISO equivalent of OPS+? I apologize for being a statistical novice! So they all get scaled upward in the translation? That seems odd, especially since Minnesota parks have consistently received hitter-friendly park factors, and they represent three different eras... could this figure be considered the ISO equivalent of OPS+?

I apologize for being a statistical novice!

]]> By: ubelmann http://stickandballguy.com/blog/2006/08/06/no-the-other-guy/#comment-17133 ubelmann Sun, 06 Aug 2006 22:40:12 +0000 http://stickandballguy.com/blog/2006/08/06/no-the-other-guy/#comment-17133 Using Clay Davenport's translated numbers, which adjust for park and era, we have: .294 -- Killer's career ISO .239 -- Hrbek's career ISO .303 -- Morneau's 2006 ISO Killer is way ahead of Hrbek in terms of hitting for power, and Morneau, at least this season, is a lot more Killebrew than Hrbek. Morneau certainly doesn't walk as much as Killebrew, though, but these days it's not looking that unlikely that he could be a .300 hitter for a few years. Using Clay Davenport's translated numbers, which adjust for park and era, we have:

.294 -- Killer's career ISO
.239 -- Hrbek's career ISO
.303 -- Morneau's 2006 ISO

Killer is way ahead of Hrbek in terms of hitting for power, and Morneau, at least this season, is a lot more Killebrew than Hrbek.

Morneau certainly doesn't walk as much as Killebrew, though, but these days it's not looking that unlikely that he could be a .300 hitter for a few years.

]]> By: Rhubarb_Runner http://stickandballguy.com/blog/2006/08/06/no-the-other-guy/#comment-17063 Rhubarb_Runner Sun, 06 Aug 2006 19:36:53 +0000 http://stickandballguy.com/blog/2006/08/06/no-the-other-guy/#comment-17063 ;) half baked ;) half baked

]]> By: SBG http://stickandballguy.com/blog/2006/08/06/no-the-other-guy/#comment-17048 SBG Sun, 06 Aug 2006 16:19:25 +0000 http://stickandballguy.com/blog/2006/08/06/no-the-other-guy/#comment-17048 Are these adjusted figures? Hell no! That would ruin everything! Are these adjusted figures? Hell no! That would ruin everything!

]]> By: spycake http://stickandballguy.com/blog/2006/08/06/no-the-other-guy/#comment-17046 spycake Sun, 06 Aug 2006 16:07:32 +0000 http://stickandballguy.com/blog/2006/08/06/no-the-other-guy/#comment-17046 Add: The Hardball Times has the AL SLG% at .437 so far this year. Add: The Hardball Times has the AL SLG% at .437 so far this year.

]]> By: spycake http://stickandballguy.com/blog/2006/08/06/no-the-other-guy/#comment-17045 spycake Sun, 06 Aug 2006 16:02:07 +0000 http://stickandballguy.com/blog/2006/08/06/no-the-other-guy/#comment-17045 Are these adjusted figures? To play devil's advocate (or Sid's advocate, or TR's advocate, as the case may be), the league SLG% in Morneau's first 3 seasons has been between .427 - .438 (don't know what it is this year, but I imagine it's similar). By comparison, the league SLG% in Hrbek's career, outside of 1987 and his final season in 1994, was never above .416, and several times was even below .400. Morneau is still better, I imagine, but some kind of adjusted figure like SLG+ would probably have them a little closer. Of course, this adjustment might also elevate Killebrew's power to another dimension, since the league SLG% over his entire <i>career</i>> was just .392. Are these adjusted figures? To play devil's advocate (or Sid's advocate, or TR's advocate, as the case may be), the league SLG% in Morneau's first 3 seasons has been between .427 - .438 (don't know what it is this year, but I imagine it's similar).

By comparison, the league SLG% in Hrbek's career, outside of 1987 and his final season in 1994, was never above .416, and several times was even below .400. Morneau is still better, I imagine, but some kind of adjusted figure like SLG+ would probably have them a little closer.

Of course, this adjustment might also elevate Killebrew's power to another dimension, since the league SLG% over his entire career> was just .392.

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