Game 84: Twins at Yankees

[No Graphic Here]

Kevin Slowey vs. Kei Igawa

The Twins have faced some tough pitchers recently, so we can point to that for at least some of their recent offensive struggles. Kei Igawa is not a tough pitcher, though. He's been a fly ball pitcher with a walk problem. I'd really like to see some runs on the board today.

(I'm guessing that given Igawa's handedness, Ford will find his way into the lineup today, but hopefully Gardy at least finds a spot for Kubel at DH.)

136 LTEs in response to Game 84: Twins at Yankees

  • Jeff A

    The fear, of course, comes from the fact that too many times, it hasn't seemed to matter whether the Twins were facing a tough pitcher. Still, hope springs eternal. If the Twins could win today, and come out of New York with a split, that wouldn't be just too bad.

  • Moss

    Looks like L-Rod will out-slug A-Rod in this series. A-Rod is not expected to be in the lineup today.

    Wonder if they'd be willing to trade the Rods straight-up.

    • AMR

      Garza, L-Rod, and Crain for A-Rod and lots of A-Rod's salary.
      Twins get: a bat at 3b.
      Yanks get: a future ace, a replacement 3b for this year, and a good reliever for next year.

  • Jeff A

    Dazzle 0 for 1 trying to pronounce "Igawa".

  • AMR

    Lineup:
    Bart, Baby Jesus (C), Cuddy, Morny, Torii, Contemplating Retirement (DH), Edsel, Elrod (3b), Darling Nikki (2b).
    How does Nick's RHBing compare to Luis's?

    OPSs vs LHP:
    Bart .742
    Prospect .720
    Cuddy .790
    Morno .724
    Torii 1.108
    Cirillo .804
    Ford .792
    LRod .311 (18 AB)
    Punto .543 (.020 below season total)

    Castillo .516
    Kubel .744
    Redmond .836
    Tyner .418 (21 AB)

    Team's second-best batter against LHP is on the bench. Without thinking too hard, I'd prefer Redmond or Mauer as DH and Cirillo at 3b. I'm surprised that Kubel's OPS against LHP is better than against RHP.

    • ubelmann

      Having Kubel out of the lineup today is inexcusable. If Gardy really needed Cirillo at DH, he should've put Kubel in LF. Ford's gotten more PT than he deserves so far anyway.

      • On LEN3's blog he said:

        Jim Souhan and I are looking at the lineup and thinking, `Gardy better be right today.’ Kubel is on the bench because he thinks Igawa is a tough matchup for him.

        which I read as a really polite way of saying what ubelmann just pointed out.

  • Neil

    Well, this is a pretty good start...

  • Jeff A

    Based on the first inning, I predict the Twins will win today 18-0.

  • twayn

    Anybody actually watching the game today? That out against Bartlett sounded like a patented Jeter showboat play.

  • Yet another umpire gets down on his knees in front of the great Jetes.

  • Jeff A

    Well, this could be going better.

  • Neil

    And then the game started...

  • Time to start tearing into Igawa. No more screwing around here.

  • twayn

    Torii striking out on a slider down and in? Inconceivable!

  • Back in my day, left-center in Yankee Stadium was 490 feet away... AND WE LIKED IT!!!

  • Beau

    Twins hammering a bad left-handed pitcher? What's going on?

    • ubelmann

      It's kind of funny that two extra base hits really is "hammering" a pitcher for this offense.

  • Neil

    These come-from-behind day games are getting to be a bit of a regular thing it seems.

  • Jeff A

    We need a zero this half-inning, Kevin.

  • ubelmann

    I know it's the Yankees and all, but Cano and Cabrera aren't exactly Ruth and Gehrig. Slowey's HR troubles have been fairly disturbing. I'm by no means giving up on the kid, but he has fewer than 100 IP at AAA, and Garza would seem to be a reasonable replacement for him right now. It might not be such a bad idea to give Slowey some time to work on things in Rochester away from the limelight.

  • SBG

    Was out this morning at an inspection of the new digs. Things went very well, it is a nice place. A tough inning, but hey, we're back in it.

    • brianS

      how old? how old the roof, AC, water softner, major appliances?

      • SBG

        13 years old. Roof and siding replaced after hail storm 5 years ago. Original appliances, but still in good working order.

        • brianS

          re: roof and siding. that's good.

          re: appliances. Ugh. dishwasher is gonna be loud and about ready to be replaced. 'fridge is gonna be inefficient and about ready to be replaced.

          • Moss

            Dishwashers are cheap. A good fridge is a bit more, but will last a long time.

            • brianS

              Yup and yup.

              We replaced our Developer POC™ ("Piece of Crap") dishwasher a couple years ago when it broke down (at about age 12-13). Bought a reasonably priced, Energy Star-rated GE Profile model. Noise level went somewhere from "ear-bleeding rock concert" to "honey, did you turn the dishwasher on?"

    • Neil

      Good time to buy.

  • brianS

    another pitchers' duel.

    apparently Dazz thinks Igawa isn't very good, nor the hitters in Japan.

    • Beau

      Being that Matsui was Japan's best hitter, and he's only above-average here, I would guess that to be true.

      • brianS

        Matsui's career OPS+ is 124, which seems a bit better than "only above-average."

        among qualified ML LFers, his career OPS ranks:

        2003: 15
        2004:  5
        2005:  8
        2006: (not qualified; ranked 12th among all LFers with 200+ PA)
        2007: 13

      • ubelmann

        Japanese baseball is roughly equivalent to a AAA league. And just like in AAA, you will find some good players and some bad players.

  • brianS

    spillover from the last two Baker performances: Slowey now on the organizational hot seat.

  • twayn

    How good is Derek Jeter? He can hit a grounder to the shortstop, field the ball as he rounds second, and throw himself out going into third. He can literally do it all.

  • Jeff A

    Seems like an odd time to use Reyes. Not saying it's wrong, just that it seems unusual to use the LOOGY in the fourth inning.

  • Beau

    Slowey's perfect record continues!

  • brianS

    Grant Hill signs 2-year deal with the Phoenix Suns.

    I'm thinking there is no way Kerr make a deal for KG. San Antonio is getting old a lot faster than Phoenix (even with this deal). They are in good shape for 2-3 more runs at a title before Nash falls off a cliff.

  • twayn

    Say, is it just me or do close calls in the field all seem to go the Yankees' way? There have been a number of close plays in this series, and I don't think we've gotten the call in any of them. That sure seems like a statistical anomoly. I won't bother harping on the fluctuating strike zone in Clemen's start, since you pretty much expect that. And come to think of it, Jeter's been gifted with a couple of base hits and RBI by the official scorekeeper in this series, too. Tough stadium for the opposition, that's for sure.

  • brianS

    "Captain of the infield"??? WTF? Would Bartlett get to do commercials in the Twin Cities and start dating Minnesota "stars" (i.e., Prince's castoffs)???

  • brianS

    Good outing for Dennys.

  • Jeff A

    I agree with Dazzle; this would be a good time for Punto to try to steal.

  • twayn

    Dazzle: "Punto battling a bit of a slump. He's 0-for-22."
    But with the base hit, he's off the schneid.

  • brianS

    A HIT for Punto!!!!!!

    roflmao.jpg

    Yanqui 'pen must suck.

  • Bartlett gets to that ball. Jeter waves at it on its way by.

  • brianS

    Great stratergerization there.

  • Jeff A

    Well, the Twins have the real big-league hitters coming up for the seventh, if they can just hold the Yankees in the sixth.

  • Jeff A

    I'm not real comfortable with Reyes still being in the game. He's doing okay, but he hasn't pitched this long in a while.

  • I've placed it here before, but I need to again. Anybody who hasn't read the Death of Derek Jeter thread over at BBTFis missing out. Just go down to post 25 and then it really picks up around post 50. Just phenomenal, phenomenal stuff.

    • And just to give you an idea of some of the stuff there, here was my last entry in the thread...

      I can stand beside
      Things I think are right
      And I can stand beside
      The idea of fistpump and fight
      And I do believe
      That he's the Captain of everyone
      This is our shortstop
      From the east coast
      To the west coast
      To throwing Giambi out
      At home
      This is our shortsop

      • Neil

        Derek deftly scuttled to his left, cleanly picked off the ball with his glove, and fired a strike to first, beating the runner by half a step. As the crowd roared its approval, Derek fist-pumped three of his legs. It was going to be a good season.

        Brilliant.

      • Neil

        This may actually be my favorite:
        There was only one clutch and that was Clutch-2, which specified that a man's performance in the heat of the postseason could be evaluated only by his predetermined clutchness. Jeter could still make an error. As soon as he did, an error would no longer be bad and Jeter would be hailed for his contribution. A-Rod could get a hit and Jeter make an out, but an out would then be clutch. If A-Rod made an out, an out was bad, but if he hit a homer, a homer was bad. A-Rod was moved deeply by the absolute simplicity of this clause of Clutch-2 and let out a respectful whistle.

        "That's some clutch, that Clutch-2," A-Rod observed.

        "He's the best there is," Torre agreed.

  • Cuddy, Cuddy, Cuddy!!! Ding, Dong. Put the dagger in!

  • Jeff A

    I'm pretty much okay with long, slow games on weekday afternoons when I'm at work.

  • brianS

    Dazz with his 94 OPS+ career mark telling the boys how to do their jobs.

    Hey, Gordo! Was Al Hrabosky afraid to pitch?

  • Jeff A

    Now we're in trouble. Other than Hunter, not much coming up to bat for the next couple of innings. We need good relief pitching and some luck.

    • Here's where having Kubel on benched today provides a little hope. Will be nice to have his pop available against the likes of Proctor, Bruney, and (gulp--hope not) Rivera.

  • E-6

    Just tuned in. Sounds like Slowey didn't exactly wow 'em in Gotham.

  • brianS

    Gordo: Cheese is getting squeezed.

  • Jeff A

    The Twins really need Hunter to get something started.

  • brianS

    Farnsworth + Cirillo + bunt?

  • Let's get to Farnsworthless here.

  • This has heartbreak written all over it..

  • brianS

    Not happening.

    worse. with Cirillo DHing today, you can't really use Kubel as PH for anyone other than Ford, 'cuz they are short-handed for infield replacements. (unless you want to use castillo for the bottom of an inning -- plus the threat of having to play more).

  • Jeff A

    It's sure a good thing Ford's in the lineup instead of Kubel today.

  • brianS

    Ford stuck in neutral.

  • Farnsworth ends his streak of allowing a baserunner in 12 straight appearances (assuming he's done today).

  • brianS

    neshek.jpg

    Vote for Whoop Ass

  • Pat "K-a-minute" Neshek

  • twayn

    Neshek almost hits Jeter. That's worth another 100 AS votes from me.

  • Jeff A

    I hate two-out walks to bring up a home-run hitter.

  • Michael Kay: "That pitch almost got the blousey part of Jeter's shirt."

  • Jeff A

    Ballgame.

  • E-6

    Neshak opens up a can of balls. Godzilla makes him pay. F*ck.

  • brianS

    louisa012.jpg
    The Twins are making BabySBG cry.

  • ubelmann

    It's a good thing that Kubel sat today, because it would've been awfully difficult for him to do better than Ford's 0-4, 3 strikeout performance.

    • I was going to point out that Kubel might have done just as poorly, but that misses the point... Kubel is the future, Ford is not... if someone is going to go 0-4, it might as well be Kubel who needs the experience against lefties (shoot, against everyone). Ford has no business taking ABs from Kubel at this point.

      • ubelmann

        What makes me so irritated about this is the way that Gardy treated Jones when he was here. No matter how poorly Jacque hit against lefties, he was always given the benefit of the doubt. Now, Kubel needs to go on a crazy tear so that Gardy really looks silly leaving him out of the lineup. It can happen, but I don't know that it will happen.

    • Moss

      Bertin' Dickenbert spouted some nonsense about the lefty having a strange delivery, and the Twins didn't want Kubel to get messed up facing an unorthodox lefty. What a load of crap. If that came from the team, it is absolute bullshit.

  • brianS

    Gordo talking about who will lead off in the bottom. Dazz "uhhhh, yea."

    *Dazz thinking: WTF are you TALKING about, Gordo? There ain't gonna be a bottom*

  • Jeff A

    Rodriguez, Punto, Bartlett. Not exactly murderer's row.

    • ubelmann

      Kubel should PH for Rodriguez or Punto. If the Twins score two or more, Cuddyer can move in to play 3B with Ford shifting to RF and Kubel going to LF. For now, though, you just worry about getting the best hitters to the plate.

  • Jeff A

    Gordo sounds shocked that Rodriguez actually got a hit off Rivera. Of course, I'm kind of shocked, too.

  • brianS

    hah! gameday: "In play. Out(s)"

    somebody was anticipating, which seems pretty reasonable given who was at the plate (any Twin in the bottom half of the order).

  • Wow, couldn't have asked for more from our 8-9 spots than 2 singles.

  • E-6

    Radio says E-6. Scorer rules hit. The Cap'n abides.

  • brianS

    "back to back hits". HAH.

    WTF.

    RallyCap.jpg

  • Bartlett a whisker away from tying this game up with that one.

  • E-6

    Base hit ties this baby. Go Joe!

  • brianS

    that was close to being really, really, really stoopid.

  • Hit and run, and I don't mind the call with Bartlett 0-2. Stay out of the double play, both runners in scoring position, risky but considering who's behind the plate I'd call it a good risk.

  • Man oh man, I'd love to see a Morneau vs. Rivera matchup today.

  • brianS

    all on Cuddy now. Can't even walk him.

  • brianS

    Damnit. got him low and away.

  • twayn

    Dazzle did not agree with that strike call on the checked swing. Thanks, Wally. You earned your pinstripes in this series.

  • brianS

    twinslose.jpg

    Twins Lose

  • Good AB by Cuddyer but what a lame way to end it. Neither of those last 2 pitches was close.

  • Jeff A

    Well, that didn't go as expected. The bushers did their job in the ninth and the big-leaguers didn't.

    Was anybody watching the game? What do we think about the last pitch?

    • Beau

      Not a great pitch, but not an easy lay-off either. Cuddyer's bat barely broke the plane. He didn't argue with the ump, either.

  • brianS

    Oh, I didn't realize that it was an appeal to the 1b umpire! Jeebus! How can you end a game on that? Ick.

  • twayn

    Well, I guess we better all get used to third place. Looks like that's where we'll be the rest of this season if TR doesn't make a move to add some offense.

    • Jeff A

      I agree. The Twins have been within a few games of .500 for some time now, and that's about what they are, a .500 team.

      • brianS

        I suspect we all agree that the Twins, judging on talent anyway, aren't much more than a .500 team this year. We kind of expected as much, didn't we? Competing for a playoff spot this year was always something of a long shot.

        Assuming the F-Bomb comes back full strength next year, the 2008 outlook looks bright. Boof/Baker/Slowey/Garza/Perkins should be able to provide 3 decent starters to back up Johan and Liriano. There's plenty more talent in the system to fill out a quality bullpen.

        Casilla/Machado will, hopefully, replace Castillo/L-Rod. The savings from Castillo goes toward upgrading the 3b position or softening the blow of re-upping torii. Kubel hopefully finds his stride and takes over as a fulltime, above-average LFer. Maybe Pohlad loosens the purse strings a bit to take advantage of his last year of Johan.

  • spycake

    Slowey to AAA, Cali recalled.