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Game 118: El Presidente vs. The King

Posted by ubelmann on Monday, August 13th, 2007 at 8:05 pm

gamelog.JPG In one corner, weighing 208 pounds, with an xFIP of 3.67, pitching for the Minnesota Twins, we have Johan "El Presidente" Santana.

In the other corner, weighing 230 pounds, with an xFIP of 3.19, pitching for the Seattle Mariners, we have "King" Felix Hernandez.

This could be a really great pitching matchup between two guy with effective but contrasting styles...or one of the pitchers could have a really bad night. No one knows that just yet.

Hitting lefty pitching is the Mariners' offensive forte. They have a .299/.354/.446 line against LHP so far this season, which gives them an OPS 11% better than league average against LHP. The Twins have a .265/.331/.391 line against RHP so far the season, which gives them an OPS 6% lower than league average against RHP, and basically sucks. There's a big difference between the lineup that Santana has to handle and the lineup that Felix has to handle.

A lot of the Twins' offensive suckitude this season has come in the second half of the season, where the Twins have "hit" .253/.308/.377 as a team. For comparison, Luis Rivas, in his career, has hit .262/.307/.383. Perhaps that best describes what it's been like to watch this team's offense since the All-Star break--it's like watching Luis Rivas hit over and over and over again. Sure, maybe he'll have a good night in KC, but mainly he's a waste of time.

As far as lineups and managers go, we'll see which manager can out-stupid the other. At least the Twins won't be facing a left-handed pitcher, so Gardy can't hit Tyner lead-off against a LHP, inciting me to run onto the field and strangle him as he hands over the lineup card to the umpires. (Though somehow I'll have to restrain myself as Gardy does just that on Wednesday.)

UPDATE: This might be McClaren's stupidest lineup ever! Felix Hernandez is an extreme groundball pitcher, one of the most extreme ground ball pitchers in the league, and he always has been. So what does McClaren do? He puts Jose Vidro at second base. Granted, Vidro's .330/.372/.379 this year looks decent, but he is slow as molasses and has already hit into 15 double plays this year. (Which of course makes him a great choice to hit second in the lineup.) More importantly, Vidro is absolutely terrible in the field.

His next brilliant idea is to put Willie "Boom-Boom" Bloomquist in for Adrian Beltre at 3B. Willie is not only an offensive downgrade from Beltre (who has a decent .286/.333/.429 line against Santana), he's a clear defensive downgrade from Beltre, who could well be the best defensive third baseman in the league.

Adam Jones gets the start in LF, which is probably McClaren's only good decision in this entire lineup. Sexson continues his sort-of-but-not-really platoon with Broussard (which is fine as Broussard isn't all that hot against lefties or very hot with the glove.)

My favorite part is that McClaren found a way to get Raul Ibanez in the lineup at DH. Ibanez is hitting .258/.280/.342 against LHP this year. For comparison, Jacque Jones has hit .228/.277/.348 in his career against LHP. Jose Lopez is having an awful year and is hitting just .237/.282/.333 against lefties, but that's practically as good as Ibanez. There was no need for McClaren to sacrifice Lopez's defense at 2B when he could have just put Vidro at DH instead of Ibanez.

Gardenhire has finally found a manager who can botch the lineup worse than he can. Wow. (Of course, Gardy counters by putting Tyner at DH and RonDL in LF, because he believes in pixie dust and all that. But really, at this point, Gardy has barely any choices to make.)


This entry was posted by ubelmann on Monday, August 13th, 2007 at 8:05 pm and is filed under 2007 Game Logs. It is one of 616 entries by the author. We are no longer accepting Letters to the Editor on this post. Why?

243 LTEs

brianS
brianS replied on August 13th, 2007 at 8:16 pm

Tonight's game could feature ubelmann being called home from the stands in the middle innings. Assuming he does not spontaneously combust.

Should we warn Homeland Security? I think ubes might count as a human WMD.

 
Rhubarb_Runner
Rhubarb_Runner replied on August 13th, 2007 at 8:19 pm

Gotcha covered there, ubelmench

smack-forehead.jpg

NOW what is McCleren doing?!

 
davidwatts
davidwatts replied on August 13th, 2007 at 8:46 pm

I am predicting a Twins win tonight

SBG
SBG replied on August 13th, 2007 at 8:52 pm

I'm predicting that ubelmann will inspire the troops to victory!

 
 
New Guy
New Guy replied on August 13th, 2007 at 8:53 pm

I predict a 0-0 tie into the 10th inning.

New Guy
New Guy replied on August 13th, 2007 at 8:54 pm

Of all the calls I have made, this might be the most likely to occur.

 
 
davidwatts
davidwatts replied on August 13th, 2007 at 8:53 pm

a slight change in the lineup tonight
Mauer
Hunter
MVP

cool

Moss replied on August 13th, 2007 at 8:57 pm

That sounds like:

4-3
5-3
6-3

to Moss.

 
 
New Britain Bo
New Britain Bo replied on August 13th, 2007 at 8:58 pm

Venez++. Bring it on!

 
SBG
SBG replied on August 13th, 2007 at 9:03 pm

I must say that the last time I saw F-Her pitching against the Twins, I was in a hospital room while Lucy was being (unsuccessfully) induced. Today, BabySBG rolled over for the first time.

Rhubarb_Runner
Rhubarb_Runner replied on August 13th, 2007 at 9:16 pm

tonight's lineup makes lots of people roll over.

(congrats on the milestone, btw)

 
 
Rhubarb_Runner
Rhubarb_Runner replied on August 13th, 2007 at 9:06 pm

Twins lineup isn't bad, if you step out of the room while they're announcing the #8 and #9 batters.

 
New Guy
New Guy replied on August 13th, 2007 at 9:09 pm

Hey NBB, did you get hit by this storm that's tearing up central MN?

New Guy
New Guy replied on August 13th, 2007 at 9:11 pm

Ok I looked at the Nation map again, and you are way to far North and West. Nevermind.

SBG
SBG replied on August 13th, 2007 at 9:14 pm

NBB lives out in CT now.

brianS
brianS replied on August 13th, 2007 at 9:23 pm

verrrry far west.

New Guy
New Guy replied on August 13th, 2007 at 9:27 pm

Yeah, that's about 20,000 miles west of here. It looks like everyone else in the Nation is out of the storm's path as well. Que suerte!

brianS
brianS replied on August 13th, 2007 at 9:50 pm

sister-in-law and family are on their way to the Big Island for a week, to be greeted by a Category 4 hurricane. I played my tiniest fiddle for their benefit as they left.

(LTEs wont nest below this level)
 
 
 
 
 
 
Whiffers
Whiffers replied on August 13th, 2007 at 9:10 pm

7. White
8. Tyner
9. Punto

Sounds like runs to me! Rondell is averaging an RBI/game when he starts in LF!

Or is that, "the runs" instead?

 
Rhubarb_Runner
Rhubarb_Runner replied on August 13th, 2007 at 9:11 pm

Criminy - we have more logs before tonight's game than we did during all of yesterday's game, practically.

SBG
SBG replied on August 13th, 2007 at 9:15 pm

It was a beautiful day in Minnesota yesterday. Tough to stay inside on a day like that, especially with the Twins in the tank.

 
brianS
brianS replied on August 13th, 2007 at 9:24 pm

I'm fixin' to make up for a week off. Cover your eyes, Citizens!

 
 
New Guy
New Guy replied on August 13th, 2007 at 9:17 pm

Wow, did ubelmann call that or what!

SBG
SBG replied on August 13th, 2007 at 9:28 pm

Ubes is plugged into USS Mariner, one of the great sites out there. They have a tremendous amount of traffic, which has resulted in some pissing matches in their game logs. Basically, the owners of the site have been saying that they do NOT want to hear how good Vidro or Ibanez are -- to the point that they've decided to audition new commenters with some unbelievable results.

New Guy
New Guy replied on August 13th, 2007 at 9:30 pm

No avatars? Man, that site is no fun!

SBG
SBG replied on August 13th, 2007 at 9:32 pm

They are a little more serious about everything than we are, but they are also tremendous writers.

Rhubarb_Runner
Rhubarb_Runner replied on August 13th, 2007 at 9:37 pm

Can you moderate New Guy's future "predictions"? Just asking...

New Guy
New Guy replied on August 13th, 2007 at 9:40 pm

No respect. No respect, I tells ya.

(LTEs wont nest below this level)
 
 
 
 
 
 
Whiffers
Whiffers replied on August 13th, 2007 at 9:17 pm

He puts Jose Vidro at second base. Granted, Vidro’s .330/.372/.379 this year looks decent, but he is slow as molasses and has already hit into 15 double plays this year. (Which of course makes him a great choice to hit second in the lineup.) More importantly, Vidro is absolutely terrible in the field.

Good call, ubes!

 
brianS
brianS replied on August 13th, 2007 at 9:23 pm

"and the Twins threat is over...."

sigh.

 
Rhubarb_Runner
Rhubarb_Runner replied on August 13th, 2007 at 9:24 pm

aw Geez, Morneau goes fishing.

 
brianS
brianS replied on August 13th, 2007 at 9:30 pm

Gordo is campaigning for Bedard for Cy Young. Of course, so are Bedard's numbers.

 
SBG
SBG replied on August 13th, 2007 at 9:30 pm

What the hell was Vidro doing on that? Punto went to his right, dropped the ball and threw him out at second by ten feet.

ubelmann
ubelmann replied on August 14th, 2007 at 12:55 am

Vidro is just that slow.

 
 
E-6
E-6 replied on August 13th, 2007 at 9:32 pm

great...

 
brianS
brianS replied on August 13th, 2007 at 9:32 pm

that was hit...tall-ly.

E-6
E-6 replied on August 13th, 2007 at 9:34 pm

Sexton's tall-y whacker.

*hee hee*

 
 
Rhubarb_Runner
Rhubarb_Runner replied on August 13th, 2007 at 9:33 pm

cr@p

 
SBG
SBG replied on August 13th, 2007 at 9:33 pm

So, the three whipping boys at USSM, Ibanez, Vidro, and Sexson all with first inning hits.

Moss replied on August 13th, 2007 at 9:55 pm

Dickenbert inform us that Ibanez has great career numbers against Santana. Take that, ubes!

 
 
brianS
brianS replied on August 13th, 2007 at 9:33 pm

Dazz: "he got a fastball right down the middle of the plate"

I have a theory: fastballs down the middle of the plate get whacked. What do you all think of my brilliant insight?

ubelmann
ubelmann replied on August 14th, 2007 at 12:55 am

I think that theory has a good chance of working out for you.

 
 
New Guy
New Guy replied on August 13th, 2007 at 9:34 pm

So both teams have had practically identical first innings, except Richie Sexson and his .206 avg did what Morneau couldn't. The Twins just can't get anything going right.

 
StatFreak101
StatFreak101 replied on August 13th, 2007 at 9:38 pm

Could RonDL White be any worse of a LF'er?

SBG
SBG replied on August 13th, 2007 at 9:42 pm

He played that Sexson ball just about as terribly as he possibly could.

Whiffers
Whiffers replied on August 13th, 2007 at 9:44 pm

I only saw a bit of the replay due to a screaming baby, but I thought it looked at least a little catch-able for someone like Tyner if he got a decent jump. Am I making that up due to an intense dislike of Rondelle in the field?

SBG
SBG replied on August 13th, 2007 at 9:49 pm

Well, then when he couldn't catch it, he ran right up to the fence and let it get by him.

 
ubelmann
ubelmann replied on August 14th, 2007 at 12:57 am

In person, that ball seemed to hang for a really long time. In just about any other park, that would've been a HR. The ball just won't carry in that direction, which makes Sexson's game winner that much more impressive.

ubelmann
ubelmann replied on August 14th, 2007 at 12:58 am

Which is to say that I think a rangy LF'er could've caught that ball.

 
 
 
 
brianS
brianS replied on August 13th, 2007 at 9:43 pm

Greg Luzinski's speed, Jose Canseco's glove, Shannon Stewart's arm, Jason Tyner's bat. Did he get Abby Normal's brain, too?

SBG
SBG replied on August 13th, 2007 at 9:50 pm

Punto's average and Tyner's power.

 
 
 
New Guy
New Guy replied on August 13th, 2007 at 9:38 pm

Did anyone else lose the FSN feed?

 
SBG
SBG replied on August 13th, 2007 at 9:41 pm

We have a little problem with FSN... blackout!

GreekHouse
GreekHouse replied on August 13th, 2007 at 9:43 pm

I thought it was just me. :)

I was hoping you guys would be able to do play by play for me.

brianS
brianS replied on August 13th, 2007 at 9:44 pm

Tyner singled to center with 2 out. F-her drops the ball on a move to first (balk), advancing Tyner to 2nd. Bunto walks.

 
 
New Guy
New Guy replied on August 13th, 2007 at 9:44 pm

It just came back for me.

 
 
brianS
brianS replied on August 13th, 2007 at 9:42 pm

Brooks Bloomquist throws out Juliette Swango.

 
E-6
E-6 replied on August 13th, 2007 at 9:42 pm

making a call - Nicky caught lookin'.

 
davidwatts
davidwatts replied on August 13th, 2007 at 9:44 pm

a balk, then a walk! it a rally

E-6
E-6 replied on August 13th, 2007 at 9:45 pm

Minny, sorta

 
brianS
brianS replied on August 13th, 2007 at 9:45 pm

"Balk, Walk, Jayhawk!"

isn't that how the KU baseball team chant goes?

SBG
SBG replied on August 13th, 2007 at 9:47 pm

Close enough.

 
 
 
StatFreak101
StatFreak101 replied on August 13th, 2007 at 9:47 pm

Punto strikes fear into the K.

E-6
E-6 replied on August 13th, 2007 at 9:48 pm

Well, elephants are afraid of mice.

brianS
brianS replied on August 13th, 2007 at 9:54 pm

Hah.

SBG
SBG replied on August 13th, 2007 at 10:00 pm

Must you shatter all of our myths? Next thing you know, we'll hear that Babe Ruth wasn't a saint.

brianS
brianS replied on August 13th, 2007 at 10:11 pm

everyone knows he was a candy bar.

 
 
 
 
 
brianS
brianS replied on August 13th, 2007 at 9:47 pm

Kasilla kan't katch up to F-her's high-test. Inning over.

 
SBG
SBG replied on August 13th, 2007 at 9:52 pm

Now, that's how you play defense on the mound. Very nice play by Santana. He's so quick.

New Guy
New Guy replied on August 13th, 2007 at 9:56 pm

I saw a comment on a blog today by a guy saying he would rather have Captain Cheeseburger than Johan because Johan "isn't the most athletic guy in the world."

davidwatts
davidwatts replied on August 13th, 2007 at 9:58 pm

wow. just wow.

brianS
brianS replied on August 13th, 2007 at 10:04 pm

well, if you're not gonna have Rafer Johnson or Bob Mathias on the mound, why bother with an athlete at all? Makes sense to me.

 
 
 
 
StatFreak101
StatFreak101 replied on August 13th, 2007 at 9:55 pm

How do I get one of those neat avatars?

brianS
brianS replied on August 13th, 2007 at 9:57 pm

You have to write a 2,000 word essay, including nicely-formatted statistical tables, explaining how TR can save the franchise from irrelevance.

StatFreak101
StatFreak101 replied on August 13th, 2007 at 9:58 pm

Well, you can check out my work at Battleyourtailoff.com.

That should be enough. :-)

SBG
SBG replied on August 13th, 2007 at 10:02 pm

Incidentally, SF101 is interested in attending the convention. I added a link to BYTO in the hometown bloggers.

 
SBG
SBG replied on August 13th, 2007 at 10:03 pm

Wow, the Rondelle White Experience. Sweet.

brianS
brianS replied on August 13th, 2007 at 10:06 pm

We're looking forward to his debut album: He's Out of Sight

 
 
 
brianS
brianS replied on August 13th, 2007 at 9:59 pm

or click on the "site admin" link on the main page and then the "profile" tab

 
 
davidwatts
davidwatts replied on August 13th, 2007 at 9:57 pm

http://stickandballguy.com/blog/wp-admin/

 
 
New Guy
New Guy replied on August 13th, 2007 at 9:59 pm

Ok, this isn't a call. I realize that my calls may have worn out their welcome. But let me just say that i would very much like to see the Twins hit some home runs today. Have at it, sluggers!

brianS
brianS replied on August 13th, 2007 at 10:02 pm

I'm sorry. We did not understand your request. Please press "1" if you wish to continue; "2" if you want a shoulder to cry on; "3" to make a more specific request; or "9", followed by the pound sign, to contact a support staff member.

New Guy
New Guy replied on August 13th, 2007 at 10:04 pm

222222222222222222

 
davidwatts
davidwatts replied on August 13th, 2007 at 10:08 pm

that remeinds me of that one Simpsons episode where Homer gets fat so he has to work at home

operator: The fingers you have used to dial are too fat. To obtain a special dialing wand, please mash the keypad with your palm now

lol

 
 
Rhubarb_Runner
Rhubarb_Runner replied on August 13th, 2007 at 10:03 pm

Your calls will NEVER wear out their welcome!

much.

 
 
Dread Pirate Will Young
Dread Pirate Will Young replied on August 13th, 2007 at 9:59 pm

R_R, did you get my email earlier today?

Rhubarb_Runner
Rhubarb_Runner replied on August 13th, 2007 at 10:03 pm

As a matter of fact, I did. Danke, Düde!

Dread Pirate Will Young
Dread Pirate Will Young replied on August 13th, 2007 at 10:10 pm

Bitte, baby

 
 
 
StatFreak101
StatFreak101 replied on August 13th, 2007 at 10:00 pm

Morneau Home Run?

Probably not.

New Guy
New Guy replied on August 13th, 2007 at 10:01 pm

That avatar is classic!

brianS
brianS replied on August 13th, 2007 at 10:02 pm

like the Twins' offense, the batter is see-through.

 
StatFreak101
StatFreak101 replied on August 13th, 2007 at 10:03 pm

Do you know what it's displaying?

New Guy
New Guy replied on August 13th, 2007 at 10:05 pm

The whiff heard 'round the Nation.