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Cup of Coffee: October 25, 2007

Cup of Coffee File this in the surprisingly candid comment file. Randy Wittman, commenting on his roster: "We could have our own developmental league right here."

This entry was posted by SBG on Thursday, October 25th, 2007 at 6:00 am and is filed under Cup of Coffee. It is one of 3089 entries by the author. We are no longer accepting Letters to the Editor on this post.

30 comments to Cup of Coffee: October 25, 2007

  • SBG
    October 25th, 2007 at 8:50 am

    Senator Wellstone killed five years ago today.

    • zooomx
      October 25th, 2007 at 8:57 am

      He was "killed"? Or did he innocently die in an accidental plane crash?

      I heard Dick Cheney was hunting squirrel up in the north woods that week. I thought a S.A.M. was a little bit of an overkill for squirrels though.

      • SBG
        October 25th, 2007 at 9:07 am

        I'm not implying that his death was anything other than accidental, or at most, negligence on the part of the pilots, who paid with their own lives.

        • zooomx
          October 25th, 2007 at 9:14 am

          I didn't think you were implying that. Most of the time I hear, or read about someone discussing this, they use the word "killed" versus "died". I find that interesting, as if most of us have latent conspiracy theory ideas on this.

          I lean slightly to the left politically. I don't think the government had anything to do with the accident, however, I wouldn't be surprised if someday we found out some rogue, ultra-conservative individual, or organization had a hand it it.

          I'm just saying.

          • SBG
            October 25th, 2007 at 9:35 am

            I'm convinced that it was pilot error.

            When people die in car crashes, to say that they were "killed" is common usage, I think.

            Senator Wellstone was the only member of the Senate seeking re-election that voted against authorizing the use of force in Iraq. I'd put that on his tombstone.

    • Beau
      October 25th, 2007 at 8:57 am

      I remember well. My professors reacted as if their father had been killed. They could barely speak, let alone teach, that day.

      • brianS
        October 25th, 2007 at 10:14 am

        Beau: what's your alma mater?

        When I knew him, Paul was a very genuine guy, as well as incredibly passionate about social and political change via "social democracy". Pretty much a "heart on his sleeve" kind of guy.

        I wasn't a true believer, but I had a lot of respect and admiration for him.

        • Beau
          October 25th, 2007 at 3:30 pm

          Winona State, and I'm a social worker, so some of my professors even worked with him a couple of times.

          Everyone I talk to who met him, even those who hated his politics, said he was a great guy. It'd be nice to have more passionate, nice guys in politics. He definitely seemed like he wouldn't roll over for anybody.

    • E-6
      October 25th, 2007 at 10:10 am


      Gone, but not forgotten.

    • Neil
      October 25th, 2007 at 10:33 am

      I had the honor to meet him on a couple of occasions when I worked on the Hill (and before, now that I think about it). What a wonderful, unique, and dedicated man. He may have annoyed some people with his passion, but the respect was undeniable... from both sides of aisle.

    • New Guy
      October 25th, 2007 at 12:38 pm

      Yeah, that was a very bad day. My father was very involved in his (very) early campaigns, to the point where I have numerous pictures of him holding me when I was a baby. The greatest thing I can say about the man is not about his politics, but that whenever I would meet him when my parents took me to a campaign rally or whatever, and despite him probably having met thousands upon thousands of people at those types of events, he always remembered me from when I was two years old.

  • zooomx
    October 25th, 2007 at 8:55 am

    makes sense when we are employing a "developmental league" general manager and coach.

    I have not watch a second of Wolves basketball this year and I don't anticipate that changing. I really don't give a hoot about NBA in general anymore. It has completely gone to crap. NHL used to get about 1/3rd of my winter sports attention, along with NFL, and NBA. Now I will split my loyalty half and half between football and hockey. I really, truly despise the NBA, it's leadership, and most of all the players. Greedy, corrupt, selfish idiots... the whole bunch.

    Ah... now I feel better... thanks for listening!

  • CarterHayes
    October 25th, 2007 at 11:47 am

    The Lynx might be the only pro bball team out there the T'wolves can still pick with.

  • brianS
    October 25th, 2007 at 2:21 pm

    Now this is my idea of conditioning work.

  • Andrew
    October 25th, 2007 at 4:54 pm

    Martin Jol out as manager of Tottenham Hotspur. This was like the British version of the Joe Torre mess kinda.

    • frightwig
      October 25th, 2007 at 5:07 pm

      How was it like the Torre mess? Martin Jol is a clueless dolt who never seemed to appreciate the full value of Robbie Keane, and Tottenham never won any trophies under his charge, although the club always seems to be loaded with exciting, upcoming talent. He's sort of like English football's version of Gardy.

      • Andrew
        October 25th, 2007 at 5:08 pm

        Well, I meant in the "will he, won't he" sense.

        • frightwig
          October 25th, 2007 at 5:34 pm

          Oh, OK. I was just wondering what was taking so long to get rid of him.

          I watched a Spurs game against Fulham in early September, when Tottenham had taken a 3-1 lead in the 2nd half, and were flying so high the announcers openly wondered how much Spurs might run up the score before the day was done. But then, in the 68th minute, Jol decided to take out Keane, the team's engine, particularly on that day when he'd set up each of the 3 goals. Keane was visibly pissed as he came off the pitch, and immediately the team stopped functioning. The rest of the game, Spurs never mounted another serious threat on goal. Suddenly Fulham controlled the run of play, and they came back to earn a 3-3 draw in the 90th minute.

          Afterwards, Jol blamed his young players for letting down their guard on set pieces towards the end. Gardy would have been proud. I didn't think much of him before, but I knew right then that he definitely needed to get canned.

          • Andrew
            October 25th, 2007 at 5:47 pm

            I remember that game. Clint Dempsey scored a goal and was instrumental in the other two to complete the comeback. I actually got on the front page of Deadspin for finding the link to the game highlights on YouTube (since removed for copyright reasons, I checked).

            I too thought Jol was a complete hack. I never meant to imply he as as good as Torre (or conversely that Torre was as bad as Jol). For months now there's been talk of Jol being on his way out. I was just thinking "Fire him already. You know he's not getting any more competent"

          • Dread Pirate Will Young
            October 25th, 2007 at 6:00 pm

            That game featured that ridiculously slow bicycle kick for a game-tying goal off the Dempsey flick from a throw-in. Pretty crazy finish.

            • Andrew
              October 25th, 2007 at 6:03 pm

              That bicycle kick was up there for.ev.er. I don't know how Robinson never got over there. Then again, I haven't seen it for awhile so I don't remember if he was on the ground or not.

              And I would think that in all of soccer-crazy England they could find a better keeper than Paul Robinson for the Three Lions.

  • New Britain Bo
    October 25th, 2007 at 5:00 pm

    New skipper in New Britain.

    Wonder if distant, distant relative of '73 Orioles Cuellar?