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2007-08 Game 14: San Antonio Spurs at Minnesota Timberwolves

Posted by SBG on Friday, November 30th, 2007 at 6:00 pm

I’ve always had just a little bit of hatred for Tim Duncan. It’s not that I don’t like his game. It’s not that he’s done anything that’s offended me (other than some whining at calls from time to time). No, when I think about Duncan rationally, there’s very little not to like.

Of course, I’m not thinking about Tim Duncan rationally. I’m thinking about him through the eyes of a KG guy. Duncan’s generally regarded as a better player than KG and the primary piece of evidence is the collection of rings that he’s gathered. Duncan’s been the best player on four World Championship teams. As for KG, well, there was that one year where he nearly made The Finals.

To say that there’s an achievement gap between Duncan and KG in the post season is to understate the truth. I still believe that KG is Duncan’s equal (his supporting cast has always been >> Garnett’s) and I also believe that he may be able to show the world that this coming June. Perhaps. Anyway, there are some things that Duncan does better than KG, that’s undeniable. He’s a better shot blocker than KG and he’s a better low post scorer. That low post scoring thing is not a small matter. Too many times I’ve seen KG jab step and then settle for the fall away jumper when I’d love to see him move off his guy toward the basket. I’ve never understood why KG can’t/doesn’t do this. At the same time, it’s hard not to admire Duncan’s moves. He’s The Big Fundamental, and that works for him.

Today’s Strib has an article about BigAlJefferson (from now on, that’s one word) and his admiration for Duncan’s footwork. Normally, stories like this don’t do much for me – I’m 42 years old, eight inches shorter (at least) than Duncan and my feet are as if planted in concrete. Big deal, I can admire Duncan’s footwork, too. But, BigAlJefferson really does have nice footwork, himself. He’s not a passer, he’s much not a defender, he doesn’t have great range, but he’s got a lot of nice low post moves. I like that in a low post player. :) So, yeah, BigAlJefferson, take notes from The Big Fundamental. Maybe tonight I’ll watch without that feeling of hatred and more of plain old appreciation for one of the true greats in the game.

Tonight the spread is San Antonio –10. GreekHouse would counsel me not to take that –10 bet, but I’m not a good listener. I’m going with the defending World Champions and I’m giving the 10 points. (The over/under is 192.)

One more thing. It's hard not to be bitter sometimes about the way things turned out with KG if you are a passionate fan (damn you McHale and Taylor!). At times I get testy about this club because of that. But, I have never, ever, EVER seen this group of guys lay down like the Knicks did last night. That was the most unprofessional display of basketball I have ever seen in all the years I've been watching the NBA -- and I saw the J.R. Rider years. Boston could have, if they had wanted to, beaten that Knicks club by 70. I like the effort our hometown club has been giving -- that was a heckuva come back this week against Dallas. So, they play hard, which is about all you can ask of the players.

<GreekHouse>I watched a big chunk of the Knicks game last night too. The closest thing to it that I had ever seen was back in 2005, when the Wolves got destroyed by Phoenix. That night was devestating for Wolves fans. They had been struggling but were still over .500 and if they got it together, they could still make a good push for one of the top playoff spots. Instead, they came out and got completely demoralized. A team who is in the running for a championship will never get beaten like this, especially at home.

Of course, that game was a lot different than the Knicks game. They looked like they have thrown in the towel about 5 minutes into the game. Still, I imagine that right now Knicks fans have to feel a lot like I did on that night almost 3 years ago. Their franchise is a mess. The players don't respect the coach, they've got tons of bloated contracts, and they've got nothing in the way of future superstars. At least the Wolves were able to trade Garnett to bring in some young talent and help accelerate the rebuilding process. What are the Knicks going to do? They can't exactly get that kind of value from Marbury or Randolph.

Last night was a really weird night in the NBA. There were only 3 games and they were all blowouts. Houston lost by 19 to the Warriors, and in a remarkable turnaround, the Nuggets turned a 17-point 2nd quarter lead into a 28 point loss. That's a 45 point swing for those of you keeping score at home. In the 4th quarter of that game, Carmelo Anthony was ejected after he hit Vujacic in the throat as he tried to run past. The Nuggets are fortunate that the Knicks game happened on the same night or everyone would be talking about them right now. There has been some bad blood between the Wolves and the Nuggets going back to when the Wolves were good. I still haven't gotten over it and I hope that team goes down in flames.

The interesting thing about last night is that the closest game was decided by 19 points. For all the talk about how bad the Wolves are, they haven't suffered a loss that big all season. The Wolves have been competitive in almost every game they've played so far including an inspired effort against a very good Dallas team on Wednesday, as well as a near win against a now 14-3 Orlando team at the beginning of the season.

Many people are surprised or upset about the Wolves current record, but what did you expect? We knew they weren't going to win a lot at the beginning of the season. There will likely be more pressure from the media for the Wolves to attempt to accelerate the rebuilding process and this is the time where the Wolves front office needs to show restraint and not have a knee-jerk reaction to a bad record. In fact, you could really argue that the Wolves season has gone ideally right now. They're not playing terribly and they're a front runner to win the NBA lottery. I wouldn't expect the front office to make a bad move during the season, but it would seem typical of them to bring in a crappy overpriced veteran in the offseason.

I don't heartily disapprove of SBG's bet tonight. The line last time was Dallas -14. Now we go to play a Spurs team which is considerably better and the line is down to -10. If I were to pick a side, I'd probably pick the Spurs on this one. Instead, I'm going to wuss out and put a silly 55 SBG$ bet on the over.</GreekHouse>


This entry was posted by SBG on Friday, November 30th, 2007 at 6:00 pm and is filed under 2007-08 Wolves Game Logs. It is one of 2331 entries by the author. We are no longer accepting Letters to the Editor on this post. Why?

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SBG
SBG replied on November 30th, 2007 at 6:38 pm

I remember that Phoenix game, although I didn't see it. That was ugly, too.

kg2005
kg2005 replied on December 1st, 2007 at 2:59 am

I remember the fans were actually cheering the Suns towards the end of the game.

 
 
Jeff A
Jeff A replied on November 30th, 2007 at 6:50 pm

No offense, guys, but GO SPURS!

GreekHouse
GreekHouse replied on November 30th, 2007 at 7:10 pm

Don't make me have to start editing your posts.

Jeff A
Jeff A replied on November 30th, 2007 at 7:54 pm

Maybe I shouldn't have said it. The Wolves are doing well so far.

 
 
 
SBG
SBG replied on November 30th, 2007 at 7:02 pm

Holy Crap. The Spurs are in town and the T-Center is freaking EMPTY.

GreekHouse
GreekHouse replied on November 30th, 2007 at 7:11 pm

NBA games are notorious for not filling up until after the first quarter.

 
davidwatts
davidwatts replied on November 30th, 2007 at 7:12 pm

wild hockey, gopher hockey
both at home tonight

 
 
GreekHouse
GreekHouse replied on November 30th, 2007 at 7:14 pm

I was thinking this game was in SA when I wrote my post (since we were just in Dallas). My opinion of SBG's bet drops significantly.

SBG
SBG replied on November 30th, 2007 at 7:21 pm

Yeah, I knew it was a home game and I still went with it.

GreekHouse
GreekHouse replied on November 30th, 2007 at 7:29 pm

Tisk. Tisk.

SBG
SBG replied on December 1st, 2007 at 8:58 am

Money.

 
 
 
 
GreekHouse
GreekHouse replied on November 30th, 2007 at 7:16 pm

Drama early with Pop's blowup. It was a flop by Maddog, but an obvious foul on Duncan too.

 
GreekHouse
GreekHouse replied on November 30th, 2007 at 7:27 pm

The Big Muppet getting into some early foul trouble.

 
GreekHouse
GreekHouse replied on November 30th, 2007 at 7:37 pm

Big first quarter from BAJ. 10 points and 5 rebounds.

 
GreekHouse
GreekHouse replied on November 30th, 2007 at 7:44 pm

New York down by 11 at that half at home against Milwaukee tonight. That's 12 points closer than they were last night!

 
GreekHouse
GreekHouse replied on November 30th, 2007 at 7:57 pm

THE RHINO!!!

 
GreekHouse
GreekHouse replied on November 30th, 2007 at 8:06 pm

Wolves lose the lead, but they looked very inspired out there tonight. I really hope SBG loses his bet tonight (no offense).

Jeff A
Jeff A replied on November 30th, 2007 at 8:12 pm

It doesn't seem like the Spurs really blow teams out that often. I have no stats to back this up, but for as good as they've been, it doesn't seem like they've played in that many blow-outs.

GreekHouse
GreekHouse replied on November 30th, 2007 at 8:24 pm

Teams with good low post scorers tend to be more consistent in their scoring, which is probably part of it. However, I'm willing to bet they still have their share of blowouts.

SBG
SBG replied on November 30th, 2007 at 9:07 pm

They've won ten games by ten points or more already this season.

Jeff A
Jeff A replied on December 1st, 2007 at 4:28 pm

In terms of your bet, that's a good point. However, I really don't think of ten points as the dividing line for "blowout".

SBG
SBG replied on December 2nd, 2007 at 11:39 am

Yeah, but ESPN lists records for teams in games with margins of 10 points or more. Setting the dividing line anywhere else requires more research! I think 11 wins by more than ten points (including the Wolves game) is pretty impressive this early in the season.

(LTEs wont nest below this level)
 
 
 
 
 
 
GreekHouse
GreekHouse replied on November 30th, 2007 at 8:27 pm

The Muppet gets T-ed up!

GreekHouse
GreekHouse replied on November 30th, 2007 at 8:29 pm

Anybody else hoping Maddog and Timmay will throw down?

ubelmann
ubelmann replied on December 1st, 2007 at 2:29 am

Based on the clips I saw on SportsCenter at the bar, that seemed like a definite possibility. Even if the Wolves suck, I like that they at least seem to care whether or not they're winning.

 
 
 
GreekHouse
GreekHouse replied on November 30th, 2007 at 8:46 pm

Good lord this officiating is atrocious.

 
SBG
SBG replied on November 30th, 2007 at 9:05 pm

What a fantastic effort by the Wolves tonight!

 
SBG
SBG replied on November 30th, 2007 at 9:09 pm

Now in the fourth and SA is pulling away.

 
SBG
SBG replied on November 30th, 2007 at 9:10 pm

C's are drilling Miami tonight. The beat goes on.

GreekHouse
GreekHouse replied on November 30th, 2007 at 9:12 pm

The Knicks won too!

SBG
SBG replied on November 30th, 2007 at 9:13 pm

I didn't realize the C's were on ESPN tonight.

frightwig
frightwig replied on December 1st, 2007 at 4:18 pm

I watched the Celtics game last night.

KG in the first half posted up a lot more often than he used to do, so I guess that might be Doc Rivers' preferred primary role in the offense for him, but KG still only has that one move down low--the fade-away jumper, which wasn't falling for him. So in the 3rd quarter, he went back out to the perimeter, where the Heat were leaving him open, and suddenly he could hardly miss from that range. In the 4th, Shaq started to shadow him and took KG out of the offense entirely (I know, you're shocked). He was pretty much reduced to setting high screens and following the ball to the rim. I think the one basket he scored in the 4th, until my DVR stopped with a minute left, was a follow-up tip where Shaq had come out to challenge the original shot. The Heat made a big comeback, albeit too little, too late, while Pierce and Allen's shots went cold and KG couldn't do anything to counter, because Shaq wouldn't give him room on the outside and KG still doesn't have that consistent, physical inside game.

It seems to me that although KG will get most of the credit and attention for the Celtics' resurgance, I think the team will only go as far in the playoffs as Paul Pierce can take it. The C's are still Pierce's team. Which is really a good situation for KG, but games like last night's go to show why he's not really much like Tim Duncan. He makes me think more of a Nowitzki type, who also works hard on defense.

 
 
 
 
SBG
SBG replied on November 30th, 2007 at 9:13 pm

And SA now has a 10 point lead.

 
SBG
SBG replied on November 30th, 2007 at 9:17 pm

SA on a 38-9 run. *sigh*

 
SBG
SBG replied on November 30th, 2007 at 9:21 pm

And the Spurs cover. 106-91.

You know, the wins don't really matter. But, this was one that the Wolves have to be pretty upset how this turned out. They played hard, but SA just flipped a switch and this one was all over.

GreekHouse
GreekHouse replied on November 30th, 2007 at 9:24 pm

Nobody is going to beat the Spurs when they shoot like that. It's unpossible. Combine that with poor Wolves shooting and this is what we get.

 
 

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