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	<title>Comments on: Evaluating Shortstops/I Covet Adam Everett&#8230;</title>
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		<title>By: spycake</title>
		<link>http://stickandballguy.com/blog/2007/12/13/evaluating-shortstopsi-covet-adam-everett/#comment-110398</link>
		<dc:creator>spycake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 01:47:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;It wouldn&#039;t surprise me if everyone around baseball agrees that Cuddyer is a RF, not a 3B, since he&#039;s now &quot;proven himself&quot; in RF and it&#039;s conventional wisdom that &quot;he had his chance&quot; at 3B and failed.&lt;/em&gt;

That would surprise me.  It&#039;s not as if the other 29 teams are living in caves.  We may never get to test this proposition for various reasons, but if Gardy really jerked the kid around without warrant, I don&#039;t think &lt;em&gt;everyone&lt;/em&gt; in baseball would accept it as a final judgement, especially if they could derive a competitive advantage by doing otherwise.  In fact, there are several GM&#039;s whose bread-and-butter seems to be identifying players and situations exactly like this.

Like I said, I&#039;m mostly on your side.  But time has mostly softened my concern.  And Bill Smith seems to be doing an adequate job of patching our holes, so hopefully we won&#039;t have to deal with any dramatic positional switches in the near future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>It wouldn't surprise me if everyone around baseball agrees that Cuddyer is a RF, not a 3B, since he's now "proven himself" in RF and it's conventional wisdom that "he had his chance" at 3B and failed.</em></p>
<p>That would surprise me.  It's not as if the other 29 teams are living in caves.  We may never get to test this proposition for various reasons, but if Gardy really jerked the kid around without warrant, I don't think <em>everyone</em> in baseball would accept it as a final judgement, especially if they could derive a competitive advantage by doing otherwise.  In fact, there are several GM's whose bread-and-butter seems to be identifying players and situations exactly like this.</p>
<p>Like I said, I'm mostly on your side.  But time has mostly softened my concern.  And Bill Smith seems to be doing an adequate job of patching our holes, so hopefully we won't have to deal with any dramatic positional switches in the near future.</p>
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		<title>By: frightwig</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 23:03:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;I think he already knew the position, having come up through the minors as a 3B.&lt;/em&gt;

I think there&#039;s a big difference between playing a position in the minors and playing in the majors, and especially when a player is trying to go back to it fulltime after a few years of being cycled through several other positions. 

As Aaron noted this week, the young Corey Koskie initially struggled to get into the regular lineup because Tom Kelly didn&#039;t like his defense, but of course, given time to settle in and improve himself, Koskie worked to become one of the better defensive 3B in the league. Why wasn&#039;t Cuddyer given a similar chance to develop at the same position?

I thought I recalled Cuddyer getting a chance to show what he could do from April to August of 2005, but now that I check the game log I see that Glenn Williams started to get regular starts at 3B in late June; in July, the position was usually manned by a utility player. Cuddyer was the regular 3B again in August, but in September he most often played RF. Anyway, that was the extent of his opportunity to show whether he could be an everyday 3rd baseman that year. Gardy gave him 10 weeks before jerking him around, then one more month after he&#039;d been sitting out or playing other positions for 6 weeks, and then he was sent to the OF before the season was up. 

It would be one thing if they had a clearly better alternative at the position in mind, but they gave up on him so quickly only to replace him with career minor leaguers like Glenn Williams and Terry Tiffee and utilitymen like Nick Punto and Luis Rodriguez. And then their plan for 2006 was to bring a washed-up Tony Batista back from Japan. I&#039;ll never understand that.

&lt;em&gt;The longer Trader Bill Smith is at helm, though, and Cuddyer continues to get more expensive and closer to free agency, the lack of trade interest in him could be seen as a sign that most other ML clubs don&#039;t see him as a third baseman either.&lt;/em&gt;

It wouldn&#039;t surprise me if everyone around baseball agrees that Cuddyer is a RF, not a 3B, since he&#039;s now &quot;proven himself&quot; in RF and it&#039;s conventional wisdom that &quot;he had his chance&quot; at 3B and failed. Like I said before, Cuddyer probably prefers to stay at a position where everyone praises him for his cannon arm, too. But I don&#039;t think that&#039;s going to result in a lack of trade interest in him if Smith ever puts him on the market, as long as Cuddyer is an above-average hitter. If Smith wants to shop him around as a 3B, though, he should push Gardy to prove the point by giving Cuddyer another chance at the position next year. Not gonna happen, I know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>I think he already knew the position, having come up through the minors as a 3B.</em></p>
<p>I think there's a big difference between playing a position in the minors and playing in the majors, and especially when a player is trying to go back to it fulltime after a few years of being cycled through several other positions. </p>
<p>As Aaron noted this week, the young Corey Koskie initially struggled to get into the regular lineup because Tom Kelly didn't like his defense, but of course, given time to settle in and improve himself, Koskie worked to become one of the better defensive 3B in the league. Why wasn't Cuddyer given a similar chance to develop at the same position?</p>
<p>I thought I recalled Cuddyer getting a chance to show what he could do from April to August of 2005, but now that I check the game log I see that Glenn Williams started to get regular starts at 3B in late June; in July, the position was usually manned by a utility player. Cuddyer was the regular 3B again in August, but in September he most often played RF. Anyway, that was the extent of his opportunity to show whether he could be an everyday 3rd baseman that year. Gardy gave him 10 weeks before jerking him around, then one more month after he'd been sitting out or playing other positions for 6 weeks, and then he was sent to the OF before the season was up. </p>
<p>It would be one thing if they had a clearly better alternative at the position in mind, but they gave up on him so quickly only to replace him with career minor leaguers like Glenn Williams and Terry Tiffee and utilitymen like Nick Punto and Luis Rodriguez. And then their plan for 2006 was to bring a washed-up Tony Batista back from Japan. I'll never understand that.</p>
<p><em>The longer Trader Bill Smith is at helm, though, and Cuddyer continues to get more expensive and closer to free agency, the lack of trade interest in him could be seen as a sign that most other ML clubs don't see him as a third baseman either.</em></p>
<p>It wouldn't surprise me if everyone around baseball agrees that Cuddyer is a RF, not a 3B, since he's now "proven himself" in RF and it's conventional wisdom that "he had his chance" at 3B and failed. Like I said before, Cuddyer probably prefers to stay at a position where everyone praises him for his cannon arm, too. But I don't think that's going to result in a lack of trade interest in him if Smith ever puts him on the market, as long as Cuddyer is an above-average hitter. If Smith wants to shop him around as a 3B, though, he should push Gardy to prove the point by giving Cuddyer another chance at the position next year. Not gonna happen, I know.</p>
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		<title>By: spycake</title>
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		<dc:creator>spycake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 19:34:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;They didn&#039;t even give him a full season to learn the position.&lt;/em&gt;

I think he already knew the position, having come up through the minors as a 3B.

I wanted him to get a longer shot there, and it would be cool to move him back, but with the &quot;deaf in the left ear&quot; thing, I&#039;m willing to give the Twins brass some benefit of the doubt.  I don&#039;t think the situation is quite so simple as &quot;one of Gardy&#039;s crazy hunches.&quot;

It would be interesting if/when Cuddyer hits the market, if any other teams were willing to move him back to third.  As someone mentioned above, he&#039;d certainly benefit from the switch to a more premium defensive position.  I wonder if he has ever been pursued in trade talks for such a purpose?   Some team could get a third baseman at a right-fielder rate, although that rate still may have been prohibitively high under TR.  The longer Trader Bill Smith is at helm, though, and Cuddyer continues to get more expensive and closer to free agency, the lack of trade interest in him could be seen as a sign that most other ML clubs don&#039;t see him as a third baseman either.  About as definitive as the Mitchell Report, but it may be the closest thing to closure we ever get.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>They didn't even give him a full season to learn the position.</em></p>
<p>I think he already knew the position, having come up through the minors as a 3B.</p>
<p>I wanted him to get a longer shot there, and it would be cool to move him back, but with the "deaf in the left ear" thing, I'm willing to give the Twins brass some benefit of the doubt.  I don't think the situation is quite so simple as "one of Gardy's crazy hunches."</p>
<p>It would be interesting if/when Cuddyer hits the market, if any other teams were willing to move him back to third.  As someone mentioned above, he'd certainly benefit from the switch to a more premium defensive position.  I wonder if he has ever been pursued in trade talks for such a purpose?   Some team could get a third baseman at a right-fielder rate, although that rate still may have been prohibitively high under TR.  The longer Trader Bill Smith is at helm, though, and Cuddyer continues to get more expensive and closer to free agency, the lack of trade interest in him could be seen as a sign that most other ML clubs don't see him as a third baseman either.  About as definitive as the Mitchell Report, but it may be the closest thing to closure we ever get.</p>
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		<title>By: Diggity Dino</title>
		<link>http://stickandballguy.com/blog/2007/12/13/evaluating-shortstopsi-covet-adam-everett/#comment-110356</link>
		<dc:creator>Diggity Dino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 18:53:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course, you are right... I meant Everett at SS.</description>
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		<title>By: Rhubarb_Runner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rhubarb_Runner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 17:21:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even Gardy/Smith wouldn&#039;t put the best fielding SS in the majors at 2B.</description>
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		<title>By: SBG</title>
		<link>http://stickandballguy.com/blog/2007/12/13/evaluating-shortstopsi-covet-adam-everett/#comment-110339</link>
		<dc:creator>SBG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 16:49:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If people want one, e-mail me at sbg at stickandballguy dot com.  If I can get ten, I &lt;em&gt;will&lt;/em&gt; make it happen!  (@ 10, the price is $2.50 each).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If people want one, e-mail me at sbg at stickandballguy dot com.  If I can get ten, I <em>will</em> make it happen!  (@ 10, the price is $2.50 each).</p>
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		<title>By: E-6</title>
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		<dc:creator>E-6</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 16:42:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WWuD on an SBG-blue rubberband? Someone needs to make this happen. You could sell tens of them. ;) I&#039;d wear one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WWuD on an SBG-blue rubberband? Someone needs to make this happen. You could sell tens of them. <img src='http://stickandballguy.com/blog/wp-content/plugins/tango-smileys-extended/tango24/wink.png' alt='Wink' title='Wink' class='tse-smiley' /> I'd wear one.</p>
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		<title>By: Diggity Dino</title>
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		<dc:creator>Diggity Dino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 16:05:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would also be shocked to see a new addition.  I think we&#039;re going into the season with Everett at 2B, and a revolving door full of Harris/Buscher/Punto/Casilla to man the other two spots, with Punto having the upper hand at one of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would also be shocked to see a new addition.  I think we're going into the season with Everett at 2B, and a revolving door full of Harris/Buscher/Punto/Casilla to man the other two spots, with Punto having the upper hand at one of them.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff A</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 15:41:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My guess is Punto is at second and Harris is at third.  I&#039;m not saying I like that idea, but I&#039;d be surprised if Casilla or Buscher are in the lineup, at least to start the season.  I&#039;d also be suprised if the Twins acquired a player to fill one of those spots who is actually good.

But then, I&#039;ve been suprised before.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My guess is Punto is at second and Harris is at third.  I'm not saying I like that idea, but I'd be surprised if Casilla or Buscher are in the lineup, at least to start the season.  I'd also be suprised if the Twins acquired a player to fill one of those spots who is actually good.</p>
<p>But then, I've been suprised before.</p>
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		<title>By: Algonad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Algonad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 15:36:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m afraid that we&#039;ll see either Harris or Punto or Buscher at 3B this year.</description>
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		<title>By: zooomx</title>
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		<dc:creator>zooomx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 14:47:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I disagree.  I have been fretting over who will man the 9th spot in the lineup.  It is a very vital part of the lineup and we now have a rock solid choice there.  This will give Gardy the opportunity to bat Punto in one of the top two spots whenever he is getting a start.  Then, we will have more opportunity to rip Gardy week in and week out.

Actually, I do love the signing if Billy (antiBeane) Smith can pull the trigger on a couple of decent bats to fill our needs at 3B and CF.  Defense at SS is vital, especially at the Dome.  It&#039;s like having Greg Gagne again except Everett is a better glove.  I think we managed to win a few games with GG entrenched in that Short Left Centerfield position.

If we dont add any bats, I will worry about a lineup that includes Everett, Pridie, Buscher/Punto, Punto/Casilla/Harris, and the inconsistency of Monroe and Young.  

Mauer, Morneau, Cuddy, Kubel and Young should be able to score us some runs, but you need the other 4-5 guys in the lineup to be able to pick it up when the studs are cold.  (Something we failed to do last year)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree.  I have been fretting over who will man the 9th spot in the lineup.  It is a very vital part of the lineup and we now have a rock solid choice there.  This will give Gardy the opportunity to bat Punto in one of the top two spots whenever he is getting a start.  Then, we will have more opportunity to rip Gardy week in and week out.</p>
<p>Actually, I do love the signing if Billy (antiBeane) Smith can pull the trigger on a couple of decent bats to fill our needs at 3B and CF.  Defense at SS is vital, especially at the Dome.  It's like having Greg Gagne again except Everett is a better glove.  I think we managed to win a few games with GG entrenched in that Short Left Centerfield position.</p>
<p>If we dont add any bats, I will worry about a lineup that includes Everett, Pridie, Buscher/Punto, Punto/Casilla/Harris, and the inconsistency of Monroe and Young.  </p>
<p>Mauer, Morneau, Cuddy, Kubel and Young should be able to score us some runs, but you need the other 4-5 guys in the lineup to be able to pick it up when the studs are cold.  (Something we failed to do last year)</p>
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		<title>By: Algonad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Algonad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 14:34:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everett for $2.8MM or Eckstein for $4.5MM?  Which is better?  I&#039;d have to lean towards Eckstein.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everett for $2.8MM or Eckstein for $4.5MM?  Which is better?  I'd have to lean towards Eckstein.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff A</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 13:50:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WWuD</description>
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		<title>By: GreekHouse</title>
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		<dc:creator>GreekHouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 07:48:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve said it before and I&#039;ll say it again:  Smith reads this blog and waits to see what ubelmann thinks before making any moves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I've said it before and I'll say it again:  Smith reads this blog and waits to see what ubelmann thinks before making any moves.</p>
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		<title>By: Moss</title>
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		<dc:creator>Moss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 01:56:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nostra-ubelmann.</description>
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		<title>By: frightwig</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 00:58:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The numbers posted by Aaron today, in response to some comments that Cuddyer has &#039;found his groove&#039; at the plate since moving to RF:

&lt;em&gt;Michael Cuddyer, career:

As a third baseman: .263/.329/.442
As a right fielder: .275/.352/.452
In 2007, as a RF: .276/.356/.433&lt;/em&gt;

There&#039;s a little improvement there, but it could also be that he just happened to reach his prime as the Twins moved him to his latest position (he turned 27 in March 2006). He might have posted the same production in 2006-7 if he&#039;d been at 3B, 1B, or DH, too. 

&lt;i&gt;I thought we tried Cuddyer at 3B a couple years ago and it wasn&#039;t working.&lt;/i&gt;

They didn&#039;t even give him a full season to learn the position. He had a rough start in 2005, both at the plate and in the field, but he was one of the team&#039;s best hitters over the last 5 months of the season and I thought he showed improvement at 3B after the first month or two, as well. By August, however, he&#039;d been benched in favor of Glenn Williams, then Punto/Rodriguez, and returned to the Super Utility role before getting some consideration as a replacement for Rivas at 2B near the end of the season. 

Going into the 2006 season, Gardy publicly declared that Cuddyer &#039;had his chance&#039; but failed as an everyday player; he planned to use Cuddyer as a reserve OF, until Kubel and Ford got off to lousy starts, and then Stewart got hurt. So Cuddyer got one more chance to play every day, and finally made the most of it that year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The numbers posted by Aaron today, in response to some comments that Cuddyer has 'found his groove' at the plate since moving to RF:</p>
<p><em>Michael Cuddyer, career:</p>
<p>As a third baseman: .263/.329/.442<br />
As a right fielder: .275/.352/.452<br />
In 2007, as a RF: .276/.356/.433</em></p>
<p>There's a little improvement there, but it could also be that he just happened to reach his prime as the Twins moved him to his latest position (he turned 27 in March 2006). He might have posted the same production in 2006-7 if he'd been at 3B, 1B, or DH, too. </p>
<p><i>I thought we tried Cuddyer at 3B a couple years ago and it wasn't working.</i></p>
<p>They didn't even give him a full season to learn the position. He had a rough start in 2005, both at the plate and in the field, but he was one of the team's best hitters over the last 5 months of the season and I thought he showed improvement at 3B after the first month or two, as well. By August, however, he'd been benched in favor of Glenn Williams, then Punto/Rodriguez, and returned to the Super Utility role before getting some consideration as a replacement for Rivas at 2B near the end of the season. </p>
<p>Going into the 2006 season, Gardy publicly declared that Cuddyer 'had his chance' but failed as an everyday player; he planned to use Cuddyer as a reserve OF, until Kubel and Ford got off to lousy starts, and then Stewart got hurt. So Cuddyer got one more chance to play every day, and finally made the most of it that year.</p>
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		<title>By: kg2005</title>
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		<dc:creator>kg2005</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 00:30:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gleeman has some words to dispell that notion in the comments section today.</description>
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		<title>By: punmanbowler</title>
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		<dc:creator>punmanbowler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 00:26:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought we tried Cuddyer at 3B a couple years ago and it wasn&#039;t working.  However, now that he&#039;s got a groove going, maybe he&#039;d end up doing all right.  That&#039;s not a bad idea.  On the other hand, if it messes him up, we could be doubly screwed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought we tried Cuddyer at 3B a couple years ago and it wasn't working.  However, now that he's got a groove going, maybe he'd end up doing all right.  That's not a bad idea.  On the other hand, if it messes him up, we could be doubly screwed.</p>
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		<title>By: frightwig</title>
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		<dc:creator>frightwig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 00:24:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish the Twins had given Cuddyer more time to settle in at 3B, but I think that ship has sailed. Gardy seems convinced that Cuddyer couldn&#039;t play 3rd, and I&#039;d bet Cuddyer is happy to play a position where he gets praised for his cannon arm, rather than constantly hearing crap about his fielding and worrying about whether his next error will get him benched again. 

I believe Lofton announced his retirement near the end of last season.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish the Twins had given Cuddyer more time to settle in at 3B, but I think that ship has sailed. Gardy seems convinced that Cuddyer couldn't play 3rd, and I'd bet Cuddyer is happy to play a position where he gets praised for his cannon arm, rather than constantly hearing crap about his fielding and worrying about whether his next error will get him benched again. </p>
<p>I believe Lofton announced his retirement near the end of last season.</p>
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		<title>By: socaltwinsfan</title>
		<link>http://stickandballguy.com/blog/2007/12/13/evaluating-shortstopsi-covet-adam-everett/#comment-110313</link>
		<dc:creator>socaltwinsfan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 23:56:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tell me again why Cuddyer can&#039;t play third base? We&#039;ve got a logjam at COF and a desperate need at third. Cuddyer&#039;s agent should be pushing him to make the switch considering the FA market in a couple years. Then the Twins would just need to get a veteran lefty hitter (Tony Clark?) to platoon with Monroe at DH and a CF. Isn&#039;t Kenny Lofton still available. The Twins need a leadoff hitter as well.

I&#039;d like this Everett signing a lot better if the Twins didn&#039;t have such a flyball heavy staff, especially with Johan still in the fold. Great analysis Ubes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tell me again why Cuddyer can't play third base? We've got a logjam at COF and a desperate need at third. Cuddyer's agent should be pushing him to make the switch considering the FA market in a couple years. Then the Twins would just need to get a veteran lefty hitter (Tony Clark?) to platoon with Monroe at DH and a CF. Isn't Kenny Lofton still available. The Twins need a leadoff hitter as well.</p>
<p>I'd like this Everett signing a lot better if the Twins didn't have such a flyball heavy staff, especially with Johan still in the fold. Great analysis Ubes.</p>
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		<title>By: kg2005</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 20:38:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was kind of funny scrolling through rotoworld looking at all of the names of the people in the report, then coming across Adam Everett. If I didn&#039;t know he just signed with the Twins I would have had to do a double take.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was kind of funny scrolling through rotoworld looking at all of the names of the people in the report, then coming across Adam Everett. If I didn't know he just signed with the Twins I would have had to do a double take.</p>
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		<title>By: Neil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 20:10:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adam Everett: NOT in the Mitchell Report!</description>
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		<title>By: brianS</title>
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		<dc:creator>brianS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 19:02:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adam Everett == Juan Castro&#039;s reputation in the eyes of the Twins&#039; braintrust. Minus Juanie&#039;s prowess at the plate.</description>
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		<title>By: Diggity Dino</title>
		<link>http://stickandballguy.com/blog/2007/12/13/evaluating-shortstopsi-covet-adam-everett/#comment-110244</link>
		<dc:creator>Diggity Dino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 18:57:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Based on my rough estimate, filling all unknown spots with league-minimum players, given me an estimated payroll for the year of about $68.5 million.  

This is based on:
Contracts signed on Cot&#039;s - Johan (13.25), Nathan (6), Crain (1.7), Reyes (1), Mauer (10.5), Young (0.7), Redmond (0.95), Punto (2.4), Monroe (3.82). (40.32 MM for 9 players)
Everett at 2.8 million (2.8 MM for 1 player)
My own estimate of arb salaries for Morneau ($8MM), Cuddyer ($5.5MM), Kubel ($2.5MM), Rincon ($2.5MM), and Guerrier ($1.75MM)  (20.25MM for 5 players).  These were quick and dirty estimates; somebody with more time might look into this to get better figures.
League minimum at $500k for Baker, Slowey, Bonser, Liriano, Neshek, Harris, Buscher, Pridie (marked as starting CF for now), Tolbert (backup 3B), and G. Jones (as 5th OF) (5MM for 10 players).

Replacing Buscher at starting 3B and/or Pridie as starting CF (which would knock Tolbert and G. Jones off the roster), would increase the payroll by the contract less the 0.5 million.  

Assuming a $75 million payroll for the upcoming season, that leaves about $7.5 million ($6.5 million + cutting Tolbert &amp; Jones) for free agents.  Obviously, if Santana gets traded, that frees up an additional $12.75 million as well.  If Monroe doesn&#039;t last through spring training, there&#039;s another $2.5 million or so ($3.82 million less his buyout of about $700k less the $500k to replace him on the roster at league minimum).  I would cut Monroe, take my $10 million, and give Mike Cameron $6 million to man CF, and Mike Lamb $4.5 million for 3B, and call it a day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Based on my rough estimate, filling all unknown spots with league-minimum players, given me an estimated payroll for the year of about $68.5 million.  </p>
<p>This is based on:<br />
Contracts signed on Cot's - Johan (13.25), Nathan (6), Crain (1.7), Reyes (1), Mauer (10.5), Young (0.7), Redmond (0.95), Punto (2.4), Monroe (3.82). (40.32 MM for 9 players)<br />
Everett at 2.8 million (2.8 MM for 1 player)<br />
My own estimate of arb salaries for Morneau ($8MM), Cuddyer ($5.5MM), Kubel ($2.5MM), Rincon ($2.5MM), and Guerrier ($1.75MM)  (20.25MM for 5 players).  These were quick and dirty estimates; somebody with more time might look into this to get better figures.<br />
League minimum at $500k for Baker, Slowey, Bonser, Liriano, Neshek, Harris, Buscher, Pridie (marked as starting CF for now), Tolbert (backup 3B), and G. Jones (as 5th OF) (5MM for 10 players).</p>
<p>Replacing Buscher at starting 3B and/or Pridie as starting CF (which would knock Tolbert and G. Jones off the roster), would increase the payroll by the contract less the 0.5 million.  </p>
<p>Assuming a $75 million payroll for the upcoming season, that leaves about $7.5 million ($6.5 million + cutting Tolbert &#038; Jones) for free agents.  Obviously, if Santana gets traded, that frees up an additional $12.75 million as well.  If Monroe doesn't last through spring training, there's another $2.5 million or so ($3.82 million less his buyout of about $700k less the $500k to replace him on the roster at league minimum).  I would cut Monroe, take my $10 million, and give Mike Cameron $6 million to man CF, and Mike Lamb $4.5 million for 3B, and call it a day.</p>
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		<title>By: spycake</title>
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		<dc:creator>spycake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 18:45:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A favorite to win a Gold Glove?  In the league that gave it to Jeter three years in a row?</description>
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		<title>By: twayn</title>
		<link>http://stickandballguy.com/blog/2007/12/13/evaluating-shortstopsi-covet-adam-everett/#comment-110240</link>
		<dc:creator>twayn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 18:22:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thinking in context of a potential Santana trade, I&#039;m starting to wonder if Trader Bill will now try to fill all the roster holes &lt;em&gt;and&lt;/em&gt; keep Johan for 2008. With Everett at SS, I think Harris becomes an even better bet at 2B considering his bat. That just leaves CF and 3B to fill. Buscher is an option at 3B (I&#039;d kind of like to see us use him as a backup corner infielder so Morneau could get a rest every once in a while), and it would let us use Punto as a utility infielder again. But I&#039;d prefer to see us pick up someone with more of a track record for 3B, and definitely someone who can hit now that Everett&#039;s lifetime .248 BA and .299 OBP will be in the lineup. Brandon Inge would be a nice solution, but his average and power numbers were down last year, and how to get him from the division rival Tigers would be an issue. Still, a 3B who could hit 25-30 doubles and 15-20 dingers would be nice. As for CF, I wouldn&#039;t be surprised to see us snag Crisp from the Sox in a trade not involving Santana, or possibly pick up Cameron. Rowand would have been nice, but he wanted and got more than he&#039;s worth. Taking on Crisp is much more acceptable when you&#039;re not giving up Santana as part of the deal (and if the Sox pick up part of his salary), and we apparently did talk to the Sox about him before Santana was offered up as potential trade bait. Either way, I think our CF hole will be filled before the New Year, but 3B could be an ongoing issue. Again, can&#039;t we sign Koskie to a minor league deal with a spring training invite and see what he&#039;s got? Especially with both Buscher and Punto as potential backups? Just wondering.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thinking in context of a potential Santana trade, I'm starting to wonder if Trader Bill will now try to fill all the roster holes <em>and</em> keep Johan for 2008. With Everett at SS, I think Harris becomes an even better bet at 2B considering his bat. That just leaves CF and 3B to fill. Buscher is an option at 3B (I'd kind of like to see us use him as a backup corner infielder so Morneau could get a rest every once in a while), and it would let us use Punto as a utility infielder again. But I'd prefer to see us pick up someone with more of a track record for 3B, and definitely someone who can hit now that Everett's lifetime .248 BA and .299 OBP will be in the lineup. Brandon Inge would be a nice solution, but his average and power numbers were down last year, and how to get him from the division rival Tigers would be an issue. Still, a 3B who could hit 25-30 doubles and 15-20 dingers would be nice. As for CF, I wouldn't be surprised to see us snag Crisp from the Sox in a trade not involving Santana, or possibly pick up Cameron. Rowand would have been nice, but he wanted and got more than he's worth. Taking on Crisp is much more acceptable when you're not giving up Santana as part of the deal (and if the Sox pick up part of his salary), and we apparently did talk to the Sox about him before Santana was offered up as potential trade bait. Either way, I think our CF hole will be filled before the New Year, but 3B could be an ongoing issue. Again, can't we sign Koskie to a minor league deal with a spring training invite and see what he's got? Especially with both Buscher and Punto as potential backups? Just wondering.</p>
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		<title>By: AMR</title>
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		<dc:creator>AMR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 18:13:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Little-known (possibly untrue) fact...
Seth Strohs and Bill Smith are in-laws.

Cripes, that&#039;s two scoops in two days that Seth has had (Tyny and AEv).  Next time some newspaper writer disses bloggers, point them to Seth.</description>
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Seth Strohs and Bill Smith are in-laws.</p>
<p>Cripes, that's two scoops in two days that Seth has had (Tyny and AEv).  Next time some newspaper writer disses bloggers, point them to Seth.</p>
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		<title>By: spycake</title>
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		<dc:creator>spycake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 18:01:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can we get an administrative subpoena and check Seth&#039;s phone records?</description>
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		<title>By: CarterHayes</title>
		<link>http://stickandballguy.com/blog/2007/12/13/evaluating-shortstopsi-covet-adam-everett/#comment-110236</link>
		<dc:creator>CarterHayes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 17:50:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From the article twayn linked to:

&lt;blockquote&gt;The Twins, however, value defense, and Everett likely will be a favorite to win a Gold Glove, an award he never won in the National League.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Given Everett&#039;s abilities, and the fact that Twins are almost never charged with errors in the Dome, I&#039;d say Everett should be clearing some space on his mantle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the article twayn linked to:</p>
<blockquote><p>The Twins, however, value defense, and Everett likely will be a favorite to win a Gold Glove, an award he never won in the National League.</p></blockquote>
<p>Given Everett's abilities, and the fact that Twins are almost never charged with errors in the Dome, I'd say Everett should be clearing some space on his mantle.</p>
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		<title>By: CarterHayes</title>
		<link>http://stickandballguy.com/blog/2007/12/13/evaluating-shortstopsi-covet-adam-everett/#comment-110235</link>
		<dc:creator>CarterHayes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 17:47:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know, I saw the link, and I saw the headline, and I still had to read the article to make sure it wasn&#039;t Jurassic Carl that the Twins had signed.</description>
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		<title>By: Diggity Dino</title>
		<link>http://stickandballguy.com/blog/2007/12/13/evaluating-shortstopsi-covet-adam-everett/#comment-110234</link>
		<dc:creator>Diggity Dino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 17:44:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow.  If Punto can win the 2B job, we could have amazing up the middle defense, but arguably the worst 2 hitters in all of baseball in the lineup.</description>
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		<title>By: twayn</title>
		<link>http://stickandballguy.com/blog/2007/12/13/evaluating-shortstopsi-covet-adam-everett/#comment-110232</link>
		<dc:creator>twayn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 17:39:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Man, that Seth is absolutely wired in. Ken Rosenthal reporting &lt;a href=&quot;http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/7559454
&quot;&gt;Twins sign Everett&lt;/a&gt; to one year deal. No details on the contract other than the term.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man, that Seth is absolutely wired in. Ken Rosenthal reporting <a href="http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/7559454<br />
">Twins sign Everett</a> to one year deal. No details on the contract other than the term.</p>
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		<title>By: CarterHayes</title>
		<link>http://stickandballguy.com/blog/2007/12/13/evaluating-shortstopsi-covet-adam-everett/#comment-110228</link>
		<dc:creator>CarterHayes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 17:34:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting.  When I lived in San Diego I always saw a ton of Khalil Greene jerseys, and I always figured he was popular because of his bat and his &lt;a href=&quot;http://farm1.static.flickr.com/218/495709421_7a04df7363.jpg?v=0&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;resemblance to Spicoli&lt;/a&gt;.  I knew his defense was nothing special, but considering that he&#039;s markedly better than Dreamboat, Reyes, or Tejada with the glove, it puts a whole new perspective on Greene&#039;s contribution to the Friars.

&lt;i&gt;There are two sorts of players on this list that I think tend to be underrated--players who play defense at an elite level, and players who are good at hitting and fielding, but spectacular at neither.&lt;/i&gt;

By this metric, Jason Bartlett&#039;s the best all-around SS in the game.  That trade keeps getting worse with each new perspective.  Considering Juan Uribe&#039;s baggage (physical and legal), the Rays did extremely well when they decided not to trade for him and got Bartlett instead.

Interesting that several of these SS are all in the age 25-28 bracket.  Forget the turn of the Century Big Three, the golden age of the SS is &lt;i&gt;now&lt;/i&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting.  When I lived in San Diego I always saw a ton of Khalil Greene jerseys, and I always figured he was popular because of his bat and his <a href="http://farm1.static.flickr.com/218/495709421_7a04df7363.jpg?v=0" rel="nofollow">resemblance to Spicoli</a>.  I knew his defense was nothing special, but considering that he's markedly better than Dreamboat, Reyes, or Tejada with the glove, it puts a whole new perspective on Greene's contribution to the Friars.</p>
<p><i>There are two sorts of players on this list that I think tend to be underrated--players who play defense at an elite level, and players who are good at hitting and fielding, but spectacular at neither.</i></p>
<p>By this metric, Jason Bartlett's the best all-around SS in the game.  That trade keeps getting worse with each new perspective.  Considering Juan Uribe's baggage (physical and legal), the Rays did extremely well when they decided not to trade for him and got Bartlett instead.</p>
<p>Interesting that several of these SS are all in the age 25-28 bracket.  Forget the turn of the Century Big Three, the golden age of the SS is <i>now</i>.</p>
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		<title>By: SethSpeaks</title>
		<link>http://stickandballguy.com/blog/2007/12/13/evaluating-shortstopsi-covet-adam-everett/#comment-110223</link>
		<dc:creator>SethSpeaks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 16:56:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ask and ye shall receive!</description>
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		<title>By: spycake</title>
		<link>http://stickandballguy.com/blog/2007/12/13/evaluating-shortstopsi-covet-adam-everett/#comment-110221</link>
		<dc:creator>spycake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 16:48:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s a piece from 2006 (stats through 2005) that also seems to confirm Everett&#039;s defensive prowess (no mention of offense, though):

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.baseballthinkfactory.org/files/dialed_in/discussion/defense_over_the_last_twenty_years_part_two/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.baseballthinkfactory.org/files/dialed_in/discussion/defense_over_the_last_twenty_years_part_two/&lt;/a&gt;

And RZR at the Hardball Times shows Everett&#039;s 2006 was top-rated among SS qualifiers since 2004, and his 2005 season ranked high too (comparable to Tulowitzki&#039;s 2007):

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.hardballtimes.com/thtstats/main/index.php?view=fielding&amp;linesToDisplay=50&amp;orderBy=zone_rating&amp;direction=DESC&amp;qual_filter=1&amp;season_filter%5B%5D=All&amp;league_filter%5B%5D=All&amp;team_filter%5B%5D=All&amp;pos_filter%5B%5D=6&amp;Submit=Submit&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;RZR at the Hardball Times&lt;/a&gt;

In Everett&#039;s shortened 2007, he fell behind Vizquel in this column, and tied with Reyes, although even then, he probably would have topped both considering DPs and plays out of zone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here's a piece from 2006 (stats through 2005) that also seems to confirm Everett's defensive prowess (no mention of offense, though):</p>
<p><a href="http://www.baseballthinkfactory.org/files/dialed_in/discussion/defense_over_the_last_twenty_years_part_two/" rel="nofollow">http://www.baseballthinkfactory.org/files/dialed_in/discussion/defense_over_the_last_twenty_years_part_two/</a></p>
<p>And RZR at the Hardball Times shows Everett's 2006 was top-rated among SS qualifiers since 2004, and his 2005 season ranked high too (comparable to Tulowitzki's 2007):</p>
<p><a href="http://www.hardballtimes.com/thtstats/main/index.php?view=fielding&#038;linesToDisplay=50&#038;orderBy=zone_rating&#038;direction=DESC&#038;qual_filter=1&#038;season_filter%5B%5D=All&#038;league_filter%5B%5D=All&#038;team_filter%5B%5D=All&#038;pos_filter%5B%5D=6&#038;Submit=Submit" rel="nofollow">RZR at the Hardball Times</a></p>
<p>In Everett's shortened 2007, he fell behind Vizquel in this column, and tied with Reyes, although even then, he probably would have topped both considering DPs and plays out of zone.</p>
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		<title>By: spycake</title>
		<link>http://stickandballguy.com/blog/2007/12/13/evaluating-shortstopsi-covet-adam-everett/#comment-110217</link>
		<dc:creator>spycake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 16:24:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It appears those offensive projections were &lt;em&gt;for&lt;/em&gt; 2007.  Meaning Eckstein was coming off of an 81 OPS+, and Punto 90.

On the defensive side, should &quot;runs per 120 according to UZR&quot; bear any relation to BP&#039;s defensive runs over average?  I was wondering if there was a place we could look at individual years and see what the &quot;normal&quot; range on this figure was, and if there were any trends for particular players.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It appears those offensive projections were <em>for</em> 2007.  Meaning Eckstein was coming off of an 81 OPS+, and Punto 90.</p>
<p>On the defensive side, should "runs per 120 according to UZR" bear any relation to BP's defensive runs over average?  I was wondering if there was a place we could look at individual years and see what the "normal" range on this figure was, and if there were any trends for particular players.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://stickandballguy.com/blog/2007/12/13/evaluating-shortstopsi-covet-adam-everett/#comment-110207</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 15:49:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>T&#039;is not the season for coveting, ubelmann.  How would you like it if Jesus broke one of the Commandments right around your birthday?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>T'is not the season for coveting, ubelmann.  How would you like it if Jesus broke one of the Commandments right around your birthday?</p>
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		<title>By: Diggity Dino</title>
		<link>http://stickandballguy.com/blog/2007/12/13/evaluating-shortstopsi-covet-adam-everett/#comment-110206</link>
		<dc:creator>Diggity Dino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 15:49:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any concern over Everett&#039;s injury?  Any limitation to his range would cause his value to drop significantly.

I guess I never realized how dominant his defense is?  A full 10 runs better than any other player on the whole list?  But his offense is worse than Punto&#039;s.  

I guess I question some of the numbers.  The one that jumps out to me is Eckstein versus Punto.  Your list has them exactly the same, both on O and D.  I can&#039;t speak to their D (and the right D number for Punto at SS seems like it would be hard to get given how little time he spent there overall), but on offense, they really aren&#039;t that close.  Eckstein last 3 years, OPS+:

99, 81, 93.

Punto, same thing:

68, 90, 52.  

(Everett:  70, 64, 56.  Yikes.)
Why are their projections so similar?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any concern over Everett's injury?  Any limitation to his range would cause his value to drop significantly.</p>
<p>I guess I never realized how dominant his defense is?  A full 10 runs better than any other player on the whole list?  But his offense is worse than Punto's.  </p>
<p>I guess I question some of the numbers.  The one that jumps out to me is Eckstein versus Punto.  Your list has them exactly the same, both on O and D.  I can't speak to their D (and the right D number for Punto at SS seems like it would be hard to get given how little time he spent there overall), but on offense, they really aren't that close.  Eckstein last 3 years, OPS+:</p>
<p>99, 81, 93.</p>
<p>Punto, same thing:</p>
<p>68, 90, 52.  </p>
<p>(Everett:  70, 64, 56.  Yikes.)<br />
Why are their projections so similar?</p>
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		<title>By: E-6</title>
		<link>http://stickandballguy.com/blog/2007/12/13/evaluating-shortstopsi-covet-adam-everett/#comment-110205</link>
		<dc:creator>E-6</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 15:48:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>    Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor&#039;s ass-bats.
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