Daniel Cabrera vs Glen Perkins
Cabrera has somehow morphed himself into a near identical clone of Carlos Silva (circa 2005), with the notable absence of Silva's ability to throw strikes.
Note that this has not always been the case. In fact, when Cabrera came up, you'd be hard-pressed to find a pitcher more different than Carlos Silva. Cabrera threw hard (really hard) and also threw a ton of sliders with some curveballs mixed in. He also missed a ton of bats, and wasn't much of a ground ball pitcher.
According to fangraphs, Cabrera's fastball velocity has come down from 96.2 in 2005 to 93.0 in 2008. Cabrera's just 27, so this troubled me a bit at first. Is he injured? Then I noticed that he's getting more ground balls than he used to (53.9% GB% would be his career high in GB%). And typically a pitcher's 2-seam fast ball is 3-4 mph slower than his 4-seam fastball.
So I did a bit of googling, and apparently starting last year, Cabrera developed his two-seamer and started throwing it more. Now, it's to the point that Cabrera throws 87.5% fastballs.
87.5%!!!
It's absolutely crazy for a starting pitcher to throw any one pitch that often. Hell, it's pretty crazy for a relief pitcher to throw a pitch that often. Even in Silva's best season, where he essentially just threw the two-seamer, he threw 83.9% fastballs at about 92.1 mph. Cabrera's throwing his fastball even more often than Silva was. Astounding.
I'll sometimes say that someone like Nick Blackburn is like Carlos Silva, but that's more in terms of results like getting ground balls and limiting walks. But looking at Blackburn's pitch types (check the bottom of his fangraphs page), he has really mixed up his pitches--basically 50% fastball, 29% cutter, 11% curveball, 9% change, and a handful of sliders. So in a way, he's much, much different than Silva was. But Cabrera is essentially following Silva's plan, though he does lack Silva's control.
What happens to a guy who throws two-seam fastballs almost exclusively but walks 3.6 batters per game and strikes out 4.9 batters per game? I don't really know, but the Orioles are going to find out.
Meanwhile, Perkins' peripherals are kind of wacky right now--low K/9, low BB/9, ridiculously high LD%, lots of pop ups, barely any ground balls--so I don't really know what to make of his performance-to-date. As such, I'm sticking with my preseason thoughts (and the projections) that eventually he's not going to be much better than replacement level. We'll see.

We need "Silva clone" to become standard baseball jargon. Nerdier fans will refer to to sub-types like "procedural Silva clones" (similar pitching approach) vs. "functional Silva clones" (Silva-like results). Together we can make it happen!
I like it already!
Good stuff!...could add "physical Silva clone" for a physical match, and "constitutional Silva clone" for a guy who asks out of a ballgame now and again.
LEN3 refreshingly critical:
I'm not sure exactly what he means about not being worried about players getting claimed off waivers. If he's saying that if Brian Bass gets claimed off waivers that we can figure out other ways to replace him on the cheap, I would tend to agree. If he means that Brian Bass won't get claimed off waivers...well, I think I disagree. Anyone who is a legit replacement level pitcher and makes the minimum gets picked up on waivers. Even Julian Tavarez found a home after he cleared waivers so that MIlwaukee could pay him the minimum.
I can see some value in keeping Bass. I see less value in another member of the bullpen.
What about dumping Rincon?
He's the certain other member. I will have more posted on the subject after the game.
Howard beat that drum today. Nice syncopation.
Dropping Bass would be a terrible decision. He for sure would be picked up by someone and except for one really bad outing in that 19-3 loss, he's done his job just fine. Plus, if the Twins are truly worried about overworking the bullpen, then it would seem to be prudent to carry two long relievers, instead of just one long reliever and one who has too often not provided the inning the Twins asked of him on a particular game. If some team actually claimed Rincon, the Twins front office should be dancing for joy. Of course, wouldn't Rincon be able to ask for his outright release? I can see Smith having a difficult time telling the Pohlads why the Twins are paying Rincon to pitch for the Indians.
the names I can think of
Boof
Rincon
Bass
Breslow (although I have no idea on his option status)
Pickoff!
nice pickoff
that was a long rundown.
I have a good feeling that this will be one of those games where Gogo goes absolutely bonkers at the plate. I'm thinking like 4-5 with two triples and a couple well timed triples or something.
OK Mr. I-Swear-Delmon's-Gonna-Homer-This-Time.
is that a call or not?
Sure it's a call. And it was supposed to say well timed singles, not triples.
As far as Delmon's homerun is concerned, I don't care what ubelmann says, two doubles is practically a homerun. It's 4 total bases!
It's worth MORE. Everyone knows that HRs are rally-killers. How are you supposed to manufacture runs with nobody on base?
GAHHHH
Mora
Twins seem to be pretty good at run-downs this year, at least.
D'oh! Glad we picked off Markakis before that dinger.
and a good thing about the pickoff. Yikes.
Jeez. Glen Blyleven on the mound today.
Millar
In the sweet old country where I come from
Nobody ever works
Yeah nothing gets done
We hang fire, we hang fire
Tattoo Perkins
He's in a pattern all right, Daz. A pattern of suck.
C'mon Perk, you go all Boof here and you're just going to make Ubelmann look good.
just base cloggage. Strategery.
Adam 'Not the Pacman' Jones
Did Cabrera grow 2 inches during the off-season? I thought he was 6'7". Gordo says 6'9"
Jeter would have been called safe.
When are the O's going to finish batting practice? Isn't it time for the game to start?
I feel my mind wandering...to work.
When it wanders the other way, you've been Dazzled.
Dear Glen Perkins,
Please stop giving up runs.
Sincerely,
New Guy
Good lord.
How about a nice pop up?
Thank you.
This would be a good time to score a whole mess of runs. I would rather that Boof didn't have to come into the game early.
Jeebus. Remember when the Yankees were good and Baltimore sucked?
Didn't help that Baltimore got the advantage of Seattle in that Bedard trade in the offseason.
Ultimately I'm happy to see Baltimore eclipse New York though.
kuuuuuuuuuuuubel
Dude!
KUBES!!!!
This is a promising situation!
No sooner said than ruined.
As soon as I typed it, I knew it couldn't last.
Kubelmann!
Jesus Christ Delmon. Be even more of a buzzkill.
DELeterious!
Nobody doubts that.
Dazzle and Gordo's wet dream.
Who's at 2b for the O's? Citron? Is Lulav at SS?
Roberts as 2b, Cintron at SS.
can we call the post-'roid Roberts "Bip" with impunity?
We scored on a Gordo special!
o/u on the giveback runs this inning?
Two. I'll take the under though.
Ill take the under also
Hrbek in the TV booth.
He's kinda funny actually.
So, are you volunteering to do the book review?
I've got a lot of other reading on my plate ATM.
that book's not much longer than a math proof.
Delmon took the lead Dr. Scholl's inserts out of his cleats tonight.
If Delmon had better placement, he wouldn't have had to run so far for that one.
Ok, I'm out. pull this game back from the brink.
Our batters this inning: LNP, GoGo, "Straight Cash" Casilla
Strikeout, bunt, double?
Well I already heard the strikeout.
Well I guess I was wrong about Gomez today. Maybe he can get at least one hit later on.
Hrbek v. Bert: .350/.395/.775
I've always wondered how Bert would have fared in the midst of the steroids era. How many more homers would he have given up?
I'm pretty sure Hrbek was on roids. I mean, just look at the guy!
If roids=carbs, then yes.
Is there some kind of general internet slowdown that I don't know about? I'm having a ridiculous time trying to get through to the mlb.tv servers, and earlier the strib blogs were pretty much dead. I think the spammers are winning.
the Strib been nonfunctional for me for the last 2 days
Well, it looks like no audio or video for me tonight, as mlb.com is totally FUBAR from my house. Oh well.
Hillary supporters staging a DOS attack on the universe.
I lied. Not out yet.
Charge the mound!
or better yet, hit one out, Cuddy!
I missed the first couple of innings, but man Cabrera is wild.
C'mon cuddy!
Arghhh!
Rigged.
Mora with the game saver. Bummer.
Crap! Mora steals a bases loaded double down the line.
Rats. Cuddy scalded that ball, but Mora makes a nice play.
Gee, Gordo sure was impressed by Mora's glove work.
It was a really nice catch.
Never sure with John.
Did he make a Punto comparison?
No, but his voice cracked like the pimply-faced fast-food worker on the Simpsons. He got so lathered up, he might be in "wardrobe", if you know what I mean.
Hello all, I have been lurking around these parts for quite some time and I figured that I wanted to join in on the frustration of watching RonDelmon and co. with you guys. Might I be the first to say nice to meet everyone.
Yo.
Good to have you on board.
Welcome aboard, FTLT.
You picked a good night.
Man, the circus really is in town.
Keystone Cops in the outfield tonight.
Ah, cripes. Gogo dives for a ball and misses it. And then Delmon lets it go through his legs.
Or maybe I should not been so quick to criticize RonDelmon...
Just so you know, Delmon Young is to blame for every single fielding mistake, every single run given up, and every single poor at bat the twins have had this year. He does it on purpose because he secretly hates all Twins fans.
If you aren't quick with the RonDelmon barbs around here, you eat a lot of dust.
Gogo provided the drama, then Delmon gave us the comic relief. I've never seen a player have so much trouble picking up a baseball from the ground.
According to Dazzle, Melvin Mora = Brooks Robinson
It was a very small sample size, but on that one play, sure.
So how do I go about getting myself one of these avatar's so my name doesn't look so lonely up there?
on the home page, right hand corner is a link to 'Site Admin'
then there is a link to 'Profile'
Thanks. Maybe this will give us some better luck. we haven't been playing quite so well since I created an account.
click site admin ->
click profile ->
click Your Avatar ->
follow instructions
If you look under the little ESPN scoreboard widget, under where is says Welcome, FirstTimeLongTime, there is a link that says site admin. If you look on the right side of that page there is a little link that says "profile," and from there you can change your avatar and do some other stuff.
There might be a simpler way, but that's how I know to do it.
I took way too long typing all of this.
I never noticed the Site Admin down there
Man that Mora play looks really big now.
Luckily, we also have a defensive wizard at the hot corner.
Yeah. Mora makes his big catch, Gogo misses his try, and we're down by 3 instead of up by 1 (or more).
Half watching the Rangers - Indians game. Which is more powerful: Ponson's awfulness or the Rangers' offense. They're racing towards double digit runs and it's only the 4th inning. It's gonna be a close race.
I'm getting some satisfaction out of Cliff Lee's regression.
Seriously. I don't understand WTF Cliff Lee's deal is this year. He must have gotten into Paul Byrd's HGH stash or something.
Boof's got a solid 5 innings here to start making his case for getting back in the rotation.
Yeah, that's a good start.
Suffice it to say, I wish that our reunion with Boof was under better circumstances.
Here's lookin' at you, Boof.
If he does really well here, does it mean that he should go back to the rotation or that he is simply better in relief?
A real paradox you got there
Not enough information. I think he was good enough to stay in the rotation in the first place, so that's my position. Everyone is better out of the bullpen to some degree. We'd need to see him probably for at least a couple months in the bullpen to see if his improvement from moving to the bullpen is better than the typical improvement a pitcher sees by moving to the bullpen. Since Perkins is more of a fly ball pitcher than Boof, I would suspect that he would improve more by moving to the 'pen than Boof would.
W00t B00f!
and lets see how Boof does in relief.
Back from softball; double, plus 2 BB from the left side, and I can tell my range factor in the OF is suffering a bit
*hits Gameday to see what's happening*
I can tell my range factor in the OF is suffering a bit
Is it because your pitcher has developed a sinker so you just don't get as many chances as you used to?
thanks for handing me a cop-out
2 k's not too bad... I am hoping that this adding of an avatar is a momentum shifter.
Well it got Nick Punto a basehit, it's obviously got some pretty strong mojo!
If it works for Boof, we might just have to call it the Booffalo.
I will do whatever is needed, don't worry.
MMMM, booffalo burger.
I think the Boofalo should stick! hahah.
evening folks
anyone else having trouble with the Twins web site?
mlb.com is down across the board
to quote mr.s crax.
Yahoo seems to be working. (Not sure about ESPN because it never seems to work for me, so I never try it.)
I'm actively watching MLB gameday and it seems to be working fine.
Heres a link if anyone needs.
http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/gameday/index.jsp?gid=2008_06_04_balmlb_minmlb_1&mode=gameday
Umm...not sure what happened on strike one.
Hey, it's working for me now.
That's a good link you got right there, son.
Yeah, that doesn't work for me. Sometimes the intertubes baffle me.
Yes. And mlb.com in general. After trying for about 20-25 minutes, I finally gave up on getting any audio or video this evening.
Same here, crax. I'm guessing they'l send a refund check.
Remember when Casilla hit that 3-run homerun? Yeah.
It was almost as exciting as the time when he sacrificed LNP and Go-Go over a base, right?
Oh, don't get me wrong, fundamentals are the most exciting part of baseball. Almost as great as intangibles.
C. Gomez singled to third
Bunt single?
Nah, just a run of the mill bouncer that he outran.
it seems like the Twins sac bunting skills are WAY better this year than last year
Laddie moves the lot over.
Hey, ESPN took a break from showing the Yankees to show the Red Sox tonight.
Everyone needs a breather once in awhile.
Are they on a diversity kick?
The Pens pull to within 1 at 4 minutes to go in the 2nd period.
You have to root for the Pens tonight if for nothing more than the resulting game seven, right?
I wanted two more days of playoff beards.
And the Twins pull to within 1 with 2 outs in the 5th inning.
A 2-run sac fly? Wow.
2 rbi on that play. thats awesome
2 ribbies?
I love watching Gomez run.
I'm surprised to see that D.Young has and error in left tonight, what gives?
Delmon being Delmon.
+ 1 manny
-490 HR
Wouldn't that be +1 J.D.? I think GoGo being GoGo would be +1 Manny.
Super Sac Fly. Awesome.
Wait, how did that happen?
I'm hoping Gameday will have a good video of it, because I am also thoroughly confused.
Jones caught the ball right in front of the fence, then fell down and Shannon Stewart'd the ball to the cutoff man. Gogo never stopped running.
that is awesome.
Most excellent Shannon Stewart reference, by the way.
Sometimes referred to as "girl arm."
Jones fell down after he caught the ball
Thanks. I don't know what sense it makes to give Mauer 2 RBI for that, but I'll take 'em.
Gomez scored from second on a sac fly? Somebody called right before that so I missed it - how did that happen?
nvm, I see NG's explanation above.
B00f is on a rampage.
Boof-a-lo, Boof-a-lo!
Bangarang Boofio
I'll see your Bangarang Boofio and raise you a Buckaroo Banzai.
ready.....aim.....Cuddyer!
The Cuddy Cannon!
Decidedly better than Shannon Stewart's pop-gun.
But decidedly less funny.
The man is on a roll.
I was just thinking "now would be a great time for a double play, Boof." That wasn't quite what I envisioned, but it'll do. When are runners going to realize that can't wander too far off base if Cuddy has a chance to catch the ball.
Hopefully they never learn.
I am going to cross my fingers and hope for never.
Upon further review, Mora < Brooks.
Your ideas intrigue me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.
Hehe, Bossman Junior just got tossed for arguing balls and strikes.
That was bound to happen, he got rung up in the first and jawed at the ump in his next at bat- to be fair it looked like the ump had a pretty suspect strike zone-
I just like to use "Bossman Junior" anytime I get the chance.
KUUUUUUUUUUUUUUBELLLLLLLLLLLLL
OH YEAH!!!
Kubel!!!!
Dude! Glad that ball stayed inside the park.
Don't want any of them rally killing homers
Zactly. I was thinking those non-scoring ground rule doubles, though.
KUBELLL!!!
KUBELLLL!!!!
Do not pee on that man's rug.
You know, it was weird seeing Jeff Bridges bald with the huge beard in Iron Man. I didn't recognize him as the dude until half way through that thing.
K0000BzZZZ!!!
oh baby!
TRIPLE KUBE!
"Delmon Young at bat. He's seen two pitches"
And we've seen too much.
Masters of the sac fly.
That was just like if Nightcrawler was real and played baseball.
COME BACK COME BACK COME BACK
K'man!!
Pre-Avatar score 5-2 Baltimore.
Post-Avatar score 6-5 Minnesota
hmmmmm.
I'm pretty sure all the success the Twins have had this year is because of this board. There was the day view of the RonDelmon, New Guy's prediction on Monday, and now the Boofalo avatar.... and probably some others that I can't think of right now but undoubtedly happened.
We must only use this power for good! And some evil.
Don't forget the rally cap. It has mystical powers, like a crystal skull or something.
that's why it's stored in a lead-lined refrigerator.
Alright bullpen, please be kind to Boof's runner.
Hmmm, ESPN commentators, beating the dead horse from their high horse.
Master of the Obvious Gordo: And Kubel's triple scored Cuddyer all the way from first base.
Almost as amazing as a sac fly scoring two runs.
Seems like a long time since a starter went past the 5th.
Yeah, facing the Yankees and Bobby Abreu's nose-breaking line-drives will do that, though.
All of two games ago. Now if you mean "went past the fifth and pitched halfway decent, it has been since the last game of the Royals series (surprise, surprise).
I break away to take care of BabySBG for a while and we've got a Boofalo and a lead. Wow. You can't leave for a minute.
You can't roller skate in a Boofalo herd.
Mauer, lefty killer
Mauer Pauer!
That Fucking Mauer can crush.
Statfreak must have rubbed off on you
Nah, he was never that positive.
Yeah, but he did have a school-girl crush on Joe.
And the mouth of an angry sailor.
Pansy!!!
Mauer owns Jamie Walker.
#2!!!
You know, I would have sworn that Mauer hit a HR against Walker before, but I looked it up and that doesn't seem to be the case? I must be thinking of someone else.
Jamie Walker: worst LOOGY ever?
Put that one on Joe's Upper Deck card.
HUGE blast for Mauer
Joe Mauer, Power Hitter? I still think it was a bad signing.
It wouldn't be so bad if they would just move him to third base already!
Lets not get carried away here, Joe Mo just doesn't hit enough HRs to be a League Average 3B.
should of drafted Prior
He hits more than Lamb, apparently.
Mauer's now hitting .700/.750/1.200 against Walker. (12 PA, but still...)
And the manager took out his reliever that had struck out the only two batters he faced to bring in Walker to face Mauer with two outs and no one on base.
WTF? I now have to sit through commercials when I open my Gameday Audio?
I'm mad as hell, and I'm not going to take it anymore!
I just minimize the window.
Where's the
funrage in that?+ 1000 Hours Community Service
meat drives down Beale street
+ 4 Oscars
See, you all knew that good things would happen if I would just leave.
Direct cause and effect relationship, for sure.
Somewhere...a single tear rolls down Dan Barreiro's cheek.
As he holds onto his stack of 1,000 Mark Prior rookie cards.
Chad Bradford sports a classic HiPo mustache.
Bradford makes me wistfully think of Sideshow.
Quote from my 6-year-old Tee-baller after seeing one pitch from Bradford: "Whoa! That's crazy!"
Streaker?
Or something. Dazzle said something about "If you're going to run out there at least keep your pants on."
Hopefully not Redmond.
Man, great minds, I had the same question
Man, the streaking thing is such a bad idea. When the cops are beating the hell out of you, you pretty much can't defend yourself.
What is the over / under on beating a public indecency charge when the 'evidence' is on the jumbotron?
As a spectator, it's usually more fun to just concentrate on the amazingly tubby security guards who take for-ev-er to get to the streaker.
You know, when a 'fan' runs onto the field, security should be allowed to give 'em the baton treatment. Unless it's a bodaciously hot female streaker, of course.
in that case, "baton treatment" would not fit with family entertainment.
but if you hit with with foam bats, its family fun!
Heh heh, He said, "hit it."
HIYO!
bodaciously hot female streakers should be able to do whatever they want-- whenever they want.
I'd hit that.
players should get to kick at them with thier spikes
Wow.
Gordo slamming Delmonstrosity for first-pitch swinging. Did a memo get sent out?
New talking point from committee headquarters.
Can Delmon PLEASE try turning on a ball sometime this season instead of going oppo every friggin at bat!
Nobody questions Delmon's talent.
It's not his talent I question...it's his development and approach!
I question his talent, too. I really don't see the bat speed. Maybe I'm wrong, but...I don't see it.
Power doesn't come from bat speed...it comes from racial anger.
Wow, D.Young saw 4 pitches tonight, even Gordo is down on him. Thats pretty damning.
He did drive in the go-ahead run in the 6th inning and hit a line drive with runners at second and third and one out. Very good situational hitting, for whatever that's worth and with any luck he would have two or three RBIs tonight.
No, Nick, you'll play wherever Gardy wants you to play because you're a marginal player and have no other choice. (I guess maybe he could go all Derek Bell on us and declare "Operation Shutdown.")
I love that ad - it's like LNP is trying to convince us he's in charge of the situation.
45 seconds left-- wing/pens.. pens down 1
wow------And we have new stanley cup champs
darn. I wanted Pittsburgh. Maybe next year, if the Wild are out of it.
WOW...whata final exchange!
Hossa's shot was too late anyway.
8 pitches? That's like 2 appearances for Joe.
Catch-22! Go Gogo.
poetry in motion? really? did I hear that right?
You heard that right. Apparently Carlos' new nickname is Poetry.
+ 10 leaves of Grass
Slightly off topic, but... whatever happened to the image tag button?
Sacrificed to the interwebs to keep them satisfied.
I have no idea.
team effort tonight
Well, that was fun.
I enjoyed my "first" night here. I will be back soon. Go Twins.
Welcome aboard, you bring good fortune. We love you LongTime.
+1 DaNang hooker?
Boof! Boof! Boof! Boof! Boof! Boof! Boof! Boof! Boof! Boof! Boof! Boof! Boof! Boof! Boof! Boof!
Great game tonight. Who's mom brought the orange slices and Capri Sun?
Mine just brought the 3-foot tall bag of animal crackers.
And don't ask why there are no elephants left.
D'oh what is Dazz talking about with the beaning of an ump?
some knucklehead threw something at the 1st base umpire Crawford and it hit him in the head
I hope that guy gets 50 years in jail. stupid
KC rallies to score 2 in the 9th to tie White Sux 4-4. Go Royals!
Not a good outing by Perkins, but I'm sure he was wondering where all this great defense was when he was out there. Plus, the Orioles have a .750 OPS vs. lefties and a .705 OPS vs. righties.
On the radio postgame, I think they just said that Mauer 2 RBI Sac Fly was the first time that had happened since 2001
I seem to remember that happening a few years ago when the Braves were playing the Cubs at Wrigley. Jacque Jones caught a ball in right-center going back at the track and he uncorked one of his patented 12-hoppers to the cut-off and 2 men scored. I remember because I was watching with a Cubs fan and heckled him mercilessly.
OK, it was this game, but the second run was scored because of an error, not the SF.
Ha! Brian Anderson tried to stretch a double into a triple and got thrown out. Still 4-4, bottom of the 11th at the Cell.
I just got home from work, flipped on the game, and Jermiane Dye hit a double in the 13th.
DOH
No worries, going to the 14th still tied 4-4. Raining hard now with lightning, according to the KC radio guys.
Buck on 2nd after a walk and sac bunt. Tony Pena Jr. at the plate. It must suck to be a Royals fan.
that was a pretty sweet play by the Chisox 2B guy
What channel are you watching this on? I'm seeing Cubs-Pads on WGN.
I have the MLB extra Innings package
to the 15th!
and I have had enough of Hawk Harrelson. I wonder if PaleHose fans like thier TV crew
Nice. Not married then, I take it?
oh heavens no. I am currently 'very single'. Every one of my friends are married though
Estaban Loiza signed witht he White Sox today. he is warming in the bullpen
There's a White Flag signing if I ever heard one.
Nah, seems like more of a "hey, remember back when we were together? Yeah, we were a totally awful couple, but the sex was great for a while--and look, I'm kind of lonely now, and you're kind of lonely now, so maybe we should take advantage of each other while the situation presents itself" sort of signing.
Jimmy Gobble taking the 15th for the Royals. This game may never end.
STUPID KONERKO!
STUPID JIMMY GOBBLE
Ah, well. Game over. Gobbled up by the Sox.
Lock up when you leave, dw, I'm out.
I just copy one of the tags at the bottom of the page, and delete what is inside the " " and insert my url