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Game 74: Arizona vs. Minnesota

Posted by ubelmann on Friday, June 20th, 2008 at 6:00 pm

Big Unit vs. Light Rail

Randy Johnson is absolutely amazing. He's got a 3.80 xFIP and by next January, he'll have seen 10 different presidents in his lifetime. As measured by ERA+, Randy Johnson has had 6 of the 100 best single seasons in the history of baseball, and 2 more in the next 200.

Baker's got slightly better peripherals than Johnson this year, but there's absolutely no way I'd bet against Randy Johnson.

Arizona has a 97 OPS+ this year, which is lower than I would have expected, for whatever reason. The Twins have a 96 OPS+. Looks like we could have a pretty even match-up on our hands today.

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Rhubarb_Runner
Rhubarb_Runner replied on June 20th, 2008 at 6:21 pm

so, does Gardy load up with righties tonight?

davidwatts
davidwatts replied on June 20th, 2008 at 6:23 pm

Arizona
S. Drew ss
C. Jackson 1b
O. Hudson 2b
C. Tracy dh
M. Reynolds 3b
C. Young cf
M. Montero c
J. Upton rf
J. Salazar lf

Minnesota
C. Gomez cf
A. Casilla 2b
J. Mauer c
J. Morneau 1b
C. Monroe rf
M. Redmond dh
D. Young lf
B. Harris ss
M. Macri 3b

Arizona
R. Johnson

Minnesota
S. Baker

lookatthosetwins
lookatthosetwins replied on June 20th, 2008 at 6:25 pm

So what you're saying is... yes.

 
Rhubarb_Runner
Rhubarb_Runner replied on June 20th, 2008 at 6:27 pm

Interesting lineup today. Anyone out there also considered a swap in the order between Gomez and Casilla? I know it's not a big deal, but the extra OB% at the #1 spot might help, and if Gomez is going to bunt anyway, well...

davidwatts
davidwatts replied on June 20th, 2008 at 6:31 pm

Im surprised to see both Mauer and Redmond in.
But no Cuddy tonight due to his wife giving birth and all (its a boy! Casey is his name)

ubelmann
ubelmann replied on June 20th, 2008 at 6:57 pm

I'm sort of surprised that they haven't taught Redmond to play first base or something.

 
 
 
 
 
brianS
brianS replied on June 20th, 2008 at 6:24 pm

Have fun, kids. I'm off to accompany the Girl at the Monarchs/Sun game. I'm looking forward to watching Minnesota legend Lindsay Whalen the Monarchs.

davidwatts
davidwatts replied on June 20th, 2008 at 6:34 pm

have fun!

 
 
davidwatts
davidwatts replied on June 20th, 2008 at 6:33 pm

so, the Twins have inexpensive beer. What nice fellows

seels58
seels58 replied on June 21st, 2008 at 6:21 am

Damn, I'm going to Citizens Bank Park tonight for Phillies/Angels. Cheapest berr in the bigs whoo-hooo !!!

brianS
brianS replied on June 21st, 2008 at 10:57 pm

Welcome, seels58. I hope you didn't chuck any batteries at the Halos. ;-)

 
 
 
socaltwinsfan
socaltwinsfan replied on June 20th, 2008 at 7:06 pm

If we have to have both Mauer and Redmond in, why isn't Mauer DHing? That would at least give him half a game off.

 
meat
meat replied on June 20th, 2008 at 7:08 pm

evening folks

davidwatts
davidwatts replied on June 20th, 2008 at 7:15 pm

oooh, new avatar

 
Rhubarb_Runner
Rhubarb_Runner replied on June 20th, 2008 at 7:18 pm

Yeah, meat's gone to pieces

davidwatts
davidwatts replied on June 20th, 2008 at 7:22 pm

you have a new one too Rhu Ru

Rhubarb_Runner
Rhubarb_Runner replied on June 20th, 2008 at 7:28 pm

That's rather personal

davidwatts
davidwatts replied on June 20th, 2008 at 7:28 pm

lol

avatars that is

 
 
 
meat
meat replied on June 20th, 2008 at 7:50 pm

Rhu_ru, I laughed at that- I mean out loud. really.

 
 
 
socaltwinsfan
socaltwinsfan replied on June 20th, 2008 at 7:12 pm

Twins hitting .277/.337/.409 and averaging 5.3 runs per game since May Day.

 
davidwatts
davidwatts replied on June 20th, 2008 at 7:19 pm

I dont know how many of you are listening to the radio feed, but they were just discussion that tommorrows game, Micah Owings is probably going to bat

Moss replied on June 21st, 2008 at 6:10 am

If he's worthy of batting in a game he is pitching, wouldn't it make sense to just use him as DH in the games he is not pitching??

In fact, they'd have greater flexibility if he is the DH in games he is not pitching, and another DH is used in the games he does pitch.

 
 
Rhubarb_Runner
Rhubarb_Runner replied on June 20th, 2008 at 7:28 pm

 
Rhubarb_Runner
Rhubarb_Runner replied on June 20th, 2008 at 7:30 pm

 
twayn
twayn replied on June 20th, 2008 at 7:31 pm

So that's why Monroe doesn't play in the field much.

ubelmann
ubelmann replied on June 20th, 2008 at 7:32 pm

Seemed like he didn't start moving until the camera panned to him.

twayn
twayn replied on June 20th, 2008 at 7:35 pm

Bert opined that bloop was a double all the way. I beg to differ. Monroe was slow getting to the ball, then mishandled it.

 
 
 
twayn
twayn replied on June 20th, 2008 at 7:34 pm

Anybody know were I can find the Twins and opponents run distribution by inning for the season?

Rhubarb_Runner
Rhubarb_Runner replied on June 20th, 2008 at 7:37 pm

--->

davidwatts
davidwatts replied on June 20th, 2008 at 7:38 pm

snarf :lol:

 
 
davidwatts
davidwatts replied on June 20th, 2008 at 7:38 pm

scroll to the middle of the page

??

twayn
twayn replied on June 20th, 2008 at 7:40 pm

Thank you.

 
 
 
Rhubarb_Runner
Rhubarb_Runner replied on June 20th, 2008 at 7:35 pm

Light Rail has an out pitch

 
Nick N.
Nick N. replied on June 20th, 2008 at 7:37 pm

Monroe in RF, Young in LF -- how does this make sense?

twayn
twayn replied on June 20th, 2008 at 7:39 pm

I agree. Monroe's numbers vs. lefties this year are horrible, and Kubel has been very hot over the past few weeks. I don't see Monroe's handedness as much of an advantage.

Nick N.
Nick N. replied on June 20th, 2008 at 7:41 pm

Well that too... my thing is just that if you're going to have Monroe in the game, he should absolutely be in LF with Young in RF. Monroe has played a total of 10 games in right field over the past three years and he doesn't have much of an arm. I realize the Twins want to get Young comfortable in left field, but I don't understand why they've been so diametrically opposed to letting him play his natural position (like when Span was up).

twayn
twayn replied on June 20th, 2008 at 7:46 pm

Oh, I misread the intent of your comment. But I agree with it, too.

 
thisisbeth
thisisbeth replied on June 21st, 2008 at 12:29 am

I've heard, and agree with, that Gardy would prefer to keep Young in left field to get him/keep him comfortable in left, rather than switching him around.

 
 
ubelmann
ubelmann replied on June 20th, 2008 at 7:42 pm

Repeat after me 50 AB is not significant, 50 AB is not significant, 50 AB is not significant

twayn
twayn replied on June 20th, 2008 at 7:48 pm

It was significant when I was in Little League and went 50 AB without a hit. ;)

ubelmann
ubelmann replied on June 20th, 2008 at 7:51 pm

I went an entire season without a hit (or a ROE) when I was in third grade. I did pretty well in HBP and BB, though.

Nick N.
Nick N. replied on June 20th, 2008 at 7:55 pm

Were you able to convince your coaches of your value as an OBP guy?

I can just picture little 9-year-old ubelmann busting out the complex stats on the little-league bench.

(LTEs wont nest below this level)
ubelmann
ubelmann replied on June 20th, 2008 at 7:59 pm

Oh man, I was awful for that league (3rd-6th graders all thrown together.) I was just happy that I got to hit last and play my two innings per game in RF. I did a lot better the next year when we had a pitching machine, it was just 3-4th graders, and they moved me to 2B.

And you'd be surprised, but I already had a full beard even then. No one complained, though, since I was so bad. :)

 
brianS
brianS replied on June 21st, 2008 at 12:03 am

heh. I was on both ends of that deal. I sucked as a youngun, but when (almost) everyone in my school grade moved up to the "senior" league the summer after 7th grade, I stayed behind because of my summer birthday.

Have I mentioned that I was 5'10" in 8th grade? I wasn't quite that big that summer, but to the 3rd graders, I might as well have been Randy Johnson. The YOUNG Randy Johnson (albeit a righty).

We played on a softball diamond. So here I am, prolly 5'7" or 5'8", throwing HARD and juuuust a little wild from about 46 feet against kids who might have been as young as 9 or 10. My dad later told me that a lot of the kids looked a wee bit scared up in the box against me. :-)

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
ubelmann
ubelmann replied on June 20th, 2008 at 7:42 pm

Someone tell Morneau that Vancouver just selected Cody Hodgson with their first pick in the draft tonight so that he's not distracted when he's batting against Unit.

 
twayn
twayn replied on June 20th, 2008 at 7:50 pm

Mrs. Twayn is convinced that Light Rail has a hickey on his neck.

ubelmann
ubelmann replied on June 20th, 2008 at 7:52 pm

My brother says that he saw that, was thinking the same thing, but didn't want to mention it.

 
meat
meat replied on June 20th, 2008 at 8:04 pm

I had a friend who claimed to have given Kyle Lohse a hickey in 2005 she still lives in St. Paul. Coincidence? I think not.

 
 
Rhubarb_Runner
Rhubarb_Runner replied on June 20th, 2008 at 7:55 pm

 
Rhubarb_Runner
Rhubarb_Runner replied on June 20th, 2008 at 7:55 pm

 
davidwatts
davidwatts replied on June 20th, 2008 at 7:58 pm

oooh, a threat for some runs

 
Rhubarb_Runner
Rhubarb_Runner replied on June 20th, 2008 at 7:58 pm

Gordo has a Dazzle bobblehead in the booth EVERY game.

 
Rhubarb_Runner
Rhubarb_Runner replied on June 20th, 2008 at 7:59 pm

Folks, we gots ourselves a no-out rally

meat
meat replied on June 20th, 2008 at 8:00 pm

I'm not sure I would call it a rally yet...

meat
meat replied on June 20th, 2008 at 8:05 pm

Okay, I stand corrected.

 
 
 
twayn
twayn replied on June 20th, 2008 at 8:01 pm

Bottom of the order comes through. Woot!

 
Rhubarb_Runner
Rhubarb_Runner replied on June 20th, 2008 at 8:02 pm

w00t * 2

 
twayn
twayn replied on June 20th, 2008 at 8:07 pm

Laddie with a dandy bunt hit.

 
Rhubarb_Runner
Rhubarb_Runner replied on June 20th, 2008 at 8:07 pm

speed kills...again

 
meat
meat replied on June 20th, 2008 at 8:07 pm

I love the wild throw!

 
ubelmann
ubelmann replied on June 20th, 2008 at 8:07 pm

Roy Smalley had a really interesting comment earlier this inning about how he thought Stephen Drew was out of position, playing too far in the hole, given how many fastballs RJ is throwing and how late the hitters (Redmond and Macri in particular) were on his fastball.

Nick N.
Nick N. replied on June 20th, 2008 at 8:09 pm

Yeah, I found that to be pretty good insight.

 
Rhubarb_Runner
Rhubarb_Runner replied on June 20th, 2008 at 8:11 pm

I heard that on the Gameday video. Also saw that Macri came up slightly lame coming out of the box, NOT rounding first, like Gordo/Dazzle guessed.

 
davidwatts
davidwatts replied on June 20th, 2008 at 8:22 pm

I like Roy when he has filled in for Bert

Moss replied on June 21st, 2008 at 6:14 am

He sometimes talks too much, but otherwise good. If he could say what he's trying to say using fewer words, and then zip up, he'd be even better.

 
 
 
meat
meat replied on June 20th, 2008 at 8:09 pm

Sweet Baby Jesus!

 
davidwatts
davidwatts replied on June 20th, 2008 at 8:10 pm

Morneau creeps up a little more on that RBI list

 
meat
meat replied on June 20th, 2008 at 8:10 pm

Laddie!

 
ubelmann
ubelmann replied on June 20th, 2008 at 8:10 pm

Awesome slide by Casilla.

twayn
twayn replied on June 20th, 2008 at 8:12 pm

It was a textbook hook, and a thing of beauty.

 
 
twayn
twayn replied on June 20th, 2008 at 8:11 pm

Okay, this has to qualify as a rally now, right?

meat
meat replied on June 20th, 2008 at 8:12 pm

you bet'cha

 
 
Nick N.
Nick N. replied on June 20th, 2008 at 8:11 pm

Whew, the Twins are putting on a clinic here in the third.

 
meat
meat replied on June 20th, 2008 at 8:11 pm

w00t!

 
davidwatts
davidwatts replied on June 20th, 2008 at 8:11 pm

 
Rhubarb_Runner
Rhubarb_Runner replied on June 20th, 2008 at 8:12 pm

Randy Johnson gets hit with The Monroe Doctrine!!

 
Nick N.
Nick N. replied on June 20th, 2008 at 8:14 pm

Yeesh, I didn't realize Baker was already at 60 pitches...

 
Nick N.
Nick N. replied on June 20th, 2008 at 8:15 pm

Surgery? Did Bert just say Neshek had surgery on his elbow?

twayn
twayn replied on June 20th, 2008 at 8:19 pm

Yes, he did. When did that happen? Or is Bert full of sh!t again.

Nick N.
Nick N. replied on June 20th, 2008 at 8:20 pm

As far as I know, Neshek never had surgery and is resting his elbow for a few months. So I'm gonna go with the latter.

ubelmann
ubelmann replied on June 20th, 2008 at 8:21 pm

When in doubt, go with Bert not being very careful with his language.

 
 
Rhubarb_Runner
Rhubarb_Runner replied on June 20th, 2008 at 8:22 pm

"again"? You meant "still", right?

 
 
 
Rhubarb_Runner
Rhubarb_Runner replied on June 20th, 2008 at 8:20 pm

The Ks are nice, but Light Rail isn't going to go far into the game with his pitch count where it is

ubelmann
ubelmann replied on June 20th, 2008 at 8:21 pm

A shutout inning in hand is worth two in the bush.

 
 
Nick N.
Nick N. replied on June 20th, 2008 at 8:23 pm

I'm out for the night. Look forward to seeing many of you tomorrow.

 
Rhubarb_Runner
Rhubarb_Runner replied on June 20th, 2008 at 8:28 pm

Black Jack's full of cr@p. I doubt Macri has a twisted ankle; looked like he had a slight hammy pull coming out of the box to me.

 
Rhubarb_Runner
Rhubarb_Runner replied on June 20th, 2008 at 8:28 pm

Little greedy there OKGo

 
davidwatts
davidwatts replied on June 20th, 2008 at 8:29 pm

did Gomez have a shot at that, or was he greedy?

Rhubarb_Runner
Rhubarb_Runner replied on June 20th, 2008 at 8:32 pm

3rd out at third; that's greedy in my book

twayn
twayn replied on June 20th, 2008 at 8:35 pm

Yeah, it wasn't really that close, and the ball was hit to left center. Not a good bet.

 
 
socaltwinsfan
socaltwinsfan replied on June 20th, 2008 at 9:13 pm

I'm betting Cuddyer was giving him crap about having more triples than GoGo.

 
 
davidwatts
davidwatts replied on June 20th, 2008 at 8:37 pm

well, Baker can get the win

 
davidwatts
davidwatts replied on June 20th, 2008 at 8:44 pm

 
Rhubarb_Runner
Rhubarb_Runner replied on June 20th, 2008 at 8:49 pm