A thread to talk about tonight's draft, in case you are interested. I'd like to see the Wolves get Beasley, I suppose, but they cannot pick 3rd and not take one of Rose, Beasley and Mayo. I'd like to see them, if they are going to trade down, package in Marko Jaric for a shorter contract, plus a draft pick.
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OJ Mayo. Meh.
I'm so thrilled about the start of the JR Mayo Era.
I'd like to see them, if they are going to trade down, package in Marko Jaric for a shorter contract, plus a draft pick.
Yeah, good luck with that.
Let the OJ Mayo era begin...
That didn't last very long.
Goodness. How bad does that Foye/Roy deal look now? Foye, McCants, and Mayo. Three undersized twos.
The O.J. stands for "Ovinton J’Anthony". Ovinton.
I'd prolly go with OJ, too.
Bruins at 4 and 5
SEA/OKC? Westbrook
MEM Love
Kinda surprised how high Westbrook went. Love will be a solid pro for 15 years. People forget, he's only 19, too.
So OJ Mayo it is...but dont the Wolves need a big man to help out Big Al?
Picks 31 and 34 are the Woofs. Expect them to pick some big stiffs--maybe even with European-sounding names.
maybe Longar Longar!
I've heard that the Woofs are thinking about packaging those picks to move up. I wouldn't. 31 is a second round pick, so there's not a guaranteed contract there. Draft some furriners and sign them later.
Yup. And there's a likelihood to be some talent at those picks, too. Not real confident the 'sota brain-trust will locate it, though.
Here's an interesting fact. Mayo scored a 29 on his ACT (95th percentile, not bad!). The NCAA questioned the score, but he provided a handwriting sample, which confirmed that he was the person that took the test.
I saw an interview with him earlier in the week. He seemed like an articulate young man. An articulate six-foot-four-inch young man.
Well, if he got a 29 on his ACT, he most likely is articulate. It's been over 25 years since I took it myself, but a 29 is absolutely nothing to sneeze at. My recollections were that there was a lot of applied science on it, too. I remember having to answer what color litmus paper turns in the presence of different chemicals. So, you can't just walk in and take it. You have to have actually gone to school and learned something.
Stick, you said up above: Goodness. How bad does that Foye/Roy deal look now? Foye, McCants, and Mayo. Three undersized twos.
does that mean the Wolves will have a deep bench, or one of those players will suit up for a different team next year?
I'll be surprised if McCants is on this team next year.
a number of trades can't happen until after July 1, apparently (cap reasons).
so much for D'Antoni not like Danilo Tskitishvili.
That's very cold, dude.
Brook Lopez falling like a rock. Perhaps the Wolves can trade up and get him.
and you would want to why?
Well, they need a big man. Depends on how far he falls.
any scuttle about the Woofs trading Mayo?
I can't really imagine that they have what Riley would need to pry Beasley away (a PG and a legit 4 or 5).
Where the hell is GreekHouse these days?
Lost at sea, methinks.
Heh. NJ takes ANOTHER swing at having a Stanford twin play center. It worked so well the last time. Maybe Utah can get Robin to complete the symmetry.
I'm surprised Seattle took Westbrook, particularly so early. Is there a trade brewing there?
Big Love on the ESPN chat: I've lost a lot of weight, my clothes don't fit. "The girls are looking at me when I walk down the street."
Ruh roh. Focus, big boy, FOCUS! Save yourself for those southern babes.
His uncle is one of the Beach Boys. Moss saw him on Best Damn... last night and he commented how he understands the song California Girls (which apparently was written by his uncle).
Kings pick Jason Thompson from Rider. We are officially into the "shoot and holler shit" phase of this draft.
Isiah Junoir, JR, J Rider
*busts out an old Common Man bit*
from the Strib Wolves blog
well, good!
Ugh. I saw Mario Chalmers as a Wolves pick and thought "man, nice steal in the 2nd round." And then 5 minutes later, I see it again with the words "proposed trade: draft rights to Miami." Which means that he'll be a perennial all-star, given McHale's history.
I'm thinking the same the thing.
I didn't understand the pick in the first place. Why not go big?
31st pick - Nikola Pekovic, C, Serbia
34th pick - Mario Chalmers, PG, Kansas
Chalmers was projected as a mid 1st round pick on some mock boards.
that's why they are "mock" boards....
Chalmers gone for two future seconds. I'm not getting that. Why trade away picks? Probably because we've got a ton of players under contract already. So, we add Mayo and Mayo alone.
how many times has this been said by fans in the last few years
I would have preferred Kevin Love with the first pick. Hollinger's system really likes Love and I can see his PER increasing Deron Williams style now that he has lost a lot of weight. Mayo should be ok but he will already be 21 so I don't know how much more he'll really improve at this point.
The first second round pick, Pekovic, looks like a complete stud if the Wolves can sign him. Hollinger would have ranked him as third best player (after Beasley and Love) if Hollinger wasn't concerned about the contract. The wolves are not bound by the pay scale in bringing him across the pond so they have more flexibility to offer cash.
Chalmers for 2nd Round picks and cash screams of Foye/Roy II, but worse. Chalmers was the third or fourth best guard in this draft in Hollinger's system and we just traded him. I can't see a better value falling to the second round in a future draft. Even if a similar quality player does fall, you are giving up the time value of having a quality player. Doesn't the ticket receipts from a playoff game exceed the half mil or whatever they will get for this trade?
Fairly typical draft I guess by McHale standards.
My wish is apparently my command: http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2008/news/story?id=3463045
The Minnesota Timberwolves aren't holding onto O.J. Mayo for long.
Two league sources told ESPN.com that the Wolves have reached an agreement in principle with the Memphis Grizzlies that will send the draft rights of Mayo, Marko Jaric, Antoine Walker and Greg Buckner to the Grizzlies in return for the draft rights to Kevin Love, Mike Miller, Brian Cardinal and Jason Collins.
Mike Miller should be very solid and it looks like Jaric's and Cardinal's contracts end at the same time. Very good trade by McHale.
Heyyyy, a small forward worth playing!
from the Strib
well...KICK ASS!
I've always wanted one of the Collins's on my team.
I'd prefer Tom Collins.
Also, Kevin Pritchard is too good at his job.
I can read this story line like a book. Mayo and Chalmers will go on to have Hall of Fame careers and Mike Miller will break his leg before the season starts. Love will also develop a strange illness, categorized by flu-like symptoms.
How much you want to bet that Love doesn't play a game in the '08-'09 season? (That was in jest, for those who think they could make an easy buck off me.)
When the story line starts with "McHale was infatuated with Kevin Love," the story cannot end well.
Well, one thing's for sure...the Pups got whiter with this deal.
Seems like they could have gotten this done without unloading Walker just yet. He's a trade asset right now, due to the expiring contract. Moss would have been more pleased if they could have dumped whatshisname, the Stormin' Mormon. Now Memphis either buys out Walker or trades him at mid-year for something...which is what the Wolves could have done.