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Game 84: Motown Alley Cats vs. Minnesota Twins

Posted by ubelmann on Tuesday, July 1st, 2008 at 6:07 pm

Robertson v. Light Rail

Last night's loss was certainly a tough one, but it's a long season, Citizens, hang in there.

2008 VORP for Twins acquired in offseason trades:
3.5 -- Delmon Young
1.2 -- Carlos Gomez
0.3 -- Brendan Harris
-0.8 -- Craig Monroe

2008 VORP for Tigers acquired in offseason trades:
17.2 -- Miguel Cabrera
6.2 -- Edgar Renteria
-6.4 -- Dontrelle Willis
-7.6 -- Jacque Jones

I'm not looking at list of offseason moves, so I may have forgotten one or two guys.

Checking in with Delmon

Sorted by OPS:

.265/.306/.314 -- Delmon, April '08
.264/.339/.358 -- Delmon, May '08
.294/.324/.421 -- Delmon, '08 ZiPS projection
.290/.326/.438 -- Delmon, '08 CHONE projection
.288/.323/.445 -- Delmon, '08 PECOTA projection
.321/.341/.476 -- Delmon, June '08

Delmon did get a number of days off in June, but he also finally posted a month that doesn't remind me of Jason Tyner. The projections would suggest that he can't quite keep that up, but they would also suggest that his June performance is closer to his actual abilities than his April/May performance.

Platoon--it's more than a war movie

Based on the early word, it looks like the Twins will be putting a lot of RHB into the lineup today. (No word yet on whether or not Carlos Guillen is going to throw a hissy fit if Baker misses his spot, leading to Nate Robertson obviously throwing at one of our best hitters twice with no action taken by the umpire in the matter.)

In his career, Nate Robertson has a menacing .666 OPS against lefties and a .816 OPS against righties. Robertson's PECOTA projection this year projects him to have an OPS 120 points better against lefties than righties.

So far this year, on the other hand, Robertson's had pretty even splits of .829 against righties and .837 against lefties. That's having faced just 130 left-handed batters, though, so I'm not at all convinced that this is the start of a new trend. In turn, I think it's a good decision to give Mauer the day off today. I'm a little bit less impressed with the decision to give DSPAN2 the start in the outfield over Kubel, but apparently even Kubel himself considers Robertson to be something of an extra-special nuisance to him, and with his previous knee problems it's probably not such a bad idea to give him some days off.

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greenmachine
greenmachine replied on July 1st, 2008 at 6:27 pm

Last night's loss was certainly a tough one, but it's a long season, Citizens, hang in there.

Positivity ... ubelmann ... does not compute .... arghgbehahdhe

 
Eric in Madison
Eric in Madison replied on July 1st, 2008 at 6:41 pm

I'm currently watching Garza dominate the Red Sox in the early innings. 2 terrific fastballs--2 and 4 seams-and he's just pouring them in there with a lot of movement and velo. Looks super confident and like a guy about to become one of the best pitchers in the league.

Grant Balfour is also on the Rays roster--he's done really well in minimal innings.

socaltwinsfan
socaltwinsfan replied on July 1st, 2008 at 6:53 pm

I really want that trade to work out for both teams. Just so we can see a team without an empire or a nation win that division. It also would mean one of those two don't even make the playoffs.

I wouldn't even begrudge the Rays if this is the best that Delmon, Harris, and Pridie will ever be (which I seriously doubt).

 
 
socaltwinsfan
socaltwinsfan replied on July 1st, 2008 at 7:03 pm

Robertson has allowed a minimum of 4 ER in 11 of 16 starts this year. His two best outings came in his last three starts, but one was against the punchless Dodgers and the other came against the Cardinals. In that game, the Cardinals managed just one unearned run on Robertson despite 13 base runners in 6.1 innings. I'll be pretty disappointed if the Twins get dominated by this lefty, even without Cuddyer.

 
meat
meat replied on July 1st, 2008 at 7:12 pm

evening folks.

New Britain Bo
New Britain Bo replied on July 1st, 2008 at 7:15 pm

Bon soir, m'sieur.

 
 
SBG
SBG replied on July 1st, 2008 at 7:16 pm

Hey folks.

New Britain Bo
New Britain Bo replied on July 1st, 2008 at 7:18 pm

Hey Stick. How's Luc and the lil one?

SBG
SBG replied on July 1st, 2008 at 7:20 pm

Doing well. BabySBG demands that I play with her when I get home. That's pretty fun.

twayn
twayn replied on July 1st, 2008 at 7:21 pm

I miss that. When I get home, my girls just want me to drive them someplace.

brianS
brianS replied on July 1st, 2008 at 7:33 pm

When I get home, they want to know "What's for dinner?"

 
 
 
 
 
brink
brink replied on July 1st, 2008 at 7:17 pm

Did we arrive at a consensus on how much negative WPA Scotty Ulcer's bullpen shenanigans were good for last night? ;-)

 
twayn
twayn replied on July 1st, 2008 at 7:17 pm

Light Rail running smoothly in the first. Evening, citizens.

brink
brink replied on July 1st, 2008 at 7:19 pm

Tonight's game feels big, doesn't it? Early July, Twins and Tiggers battling for 2nd place, yeah it doesn't quite compute, but if Baker would be able to slow Detroit's roll.... it just feels like that would be a big thing right now.

 
 
brink
brink replied on July 1st, 2008 at 7:17 pm

Deer SBG, thank you for letting us play on your magical interweb sight tonight. Amen.

 
davidwatts
davidwatts replied on July 1st, 2008 at 7:18 pm


Baker!

 
meat
meat replied on July 1st, 2008 at 7:19 pm

I'm cracking a homebrew, its a bit early for Beer Thirty, but what the hell, it was my friday.

New Britain Bo
New Britain Bo replied on July 1st, 2008 at 7:24 pm

Homebrew - what's the hooch?

meat
meat replied on July 1st, 2008 at 7:28 pm

tonight is the belgian pils- light and crisp with heavy yeast esters- medicine /licorice to plum and banana- good stuff

New Britain Bo
New Britain Bo replied on July 1st, 2008 at 7:29 pm

Double rack?

meat
meat replied on July 1st, 2008 at 7:32 pm

yeah- I attempted to dryhop this one- I don't know if it had any effect- the yeast (wyeast trappist) did most of the heavy lifting

New Britain Bo
New Britain Bo replied on July 1st, 2008 at 7:34 pm

My last batch was a Belgian trippel - full-bodied, but with some ++. Warn the guests kinda thing.

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cheaptoy
cheaptoy replied on July 1st, 2008 at 7:35 pm

I really need to dry hop something again, one of these days. I've still got an ESB sitting in the secondary fermenter because I don't have the strength to lift the thing right now, maybe I should try that one. mmmm, dry hopping.

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meat
meat replied on July 1st, 2008 at 7:38 pm

NBB how long from the 1st fermenter to drinkability? I've been tempted to do a trippel but am too impatient- for better or worse.

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New Britain Bo
New Britain Bo replied on July 1st, 2008 at 7:47 pm

Two cycles was OK for me to bottling.

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cheaptoy
cheaptoy replied on July 1st, 2008 at 7:48 pm

I did a triple a while back that was drinkable about 2 months after 1st fermenter. I saved a case of it for a few more months, though, and after 6 months in the bottle it was fantastic. I like to use beers like that as a patience building tool.

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New Britain Bo
New Britain Bo replied on July 1st, 2008 at 7:58 pm

Problem with trippel its not really a beer to pair with many foods. More of a standaloner.

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cheaptoy
cheaptoy replied on July 1st, 2008 at 8:01 pm

I liked it as a night cap.

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E-6
E-6 replied on July 1st, 2008 at 8:41 pm

It's like a Brewers game log. ;)

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cheaptoy
cheaptoy replied on July 1st, 2008 at 7:26 pm

I went ahead and said "screw it" and cracked one of them rye IPA's. I think I might have over done it a bit on the rye, but it might just need a little more time, too.

meat
meat replied on July 1st, 2008 at 7:28 pm

Cheeptoy! you back from the dead?

cheaptoy
cheaptoy replied on July 1st, 2008 at 7:31 pm

More or less. I even managed to go to work today.

meat
meat replied on July 1st, 2008 at 7:36 pm

I have a brew question- this last batch is good- (the pils) but can't keep a head (no joke, meat can't get consistent head, *rimshot*)- you have any idea what gives?- the only difference here is that I added a Tbs table sugar to the priming solution to achieve a slightly higher carbonation-

New Britain Bo
New Britain Bo replied on July 1st, 2008 at 7:41 pm

A lot of literature out there on cleaning products and head. Sterlize, use B-Brite, avoid soap.

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meat
meat replied on July 1st, 2008 at 7:44 pm

Yeah I used b-brite- don't know just a wierd thing with this batch...

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cheaptoy
cheaptoy replied on July 1st, 2008 at 7:44 pm

To be honest with you, I haven't really taken any notes relating to ingredients and head retention in the beers I've made, and I've been 50/50 on good head/no head batches. I usually use a little crystal malt to help with it, and I know you can use .5 lb - 1 lb of that by steeping it if you do extract.

Also, kegging and using CO2 has definitely helped promote good head retention in some of my beers. So, you might need to do some convincing to turn your kitchen fridge into a kegerator.

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brianS
brianS replied on July 1st, 2008 at 7:44 pm

also, you using soap on your glasses? that will defeat the head a bit too. But you can still swallow.

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twayn
twayn replied on July 1st, 2008 at 7:20 pm

If we could execute bunts like that all the time, I wouldn't complain about how much we bunt.

 
meat
meat replied on July 1st, 2008 at 7:20 pm

a bunt single? no way.

 
brink
brink replied on July 1st, 2008 at 7:21 pm

That was the greatest bunt in the history of artificial turf.

 
SBG
SBG replied on July 1st, 2008 at 7:21 pm

Walk, bunt hit, WP. Promising start here!

 
meat
meat replied on July 1st, 2008 at 7:21 pm

I would appear, via gamecast, (and that wild pitch) that Mr. Robertson is having control issues.

 
New Britain Bo
New Britain Bo replied on July 1st, 2008 at 7:22 pm

"They're so... well, y'know... fast" (Gordo on Go-Casilla combo).

New Britain Bo
New Britain Bo replied on July 1st, 2008 at 7:23 pm

Mebbe a little too fast...

 
 
twayn
twayn replied on July 1st, 2008 at 7:22 pm

That were some boneheaded baserunning.

 
meat
meat replied on July 1st, 2008 at 7:23 pm

boo.

SBG
SBG replied on July 1st, 2008 at 7:24 pm

hiss.

 
 
Rhubarb_Runner
Rhubarb_Runner replied on July 1st, 2008 at 7:24 pm

cr@p. So, the Twins picked up Crawford since last night?!

 
twayn
twayn replied on July 1st, 2008 at 7:24 pm

Jeebus, what a wasted opportunity. I hope that half inning doesn't set the tone for tonight.

 
Guppy
Guppy replied on July 1st, 2008 at 7:25 pm

Wha' happened?

twayn
twayn replied on July 1st, 2008 at 7:27 pm

Slap hit down the first base line. Gogo froze, then went. Thames fielded, touched first, threw home, Gogo tagged out.

 
 
Yickit
yickit replied on July 1st, 2008 at 7:25 pm

Damn. Gotta score on that classic Red Dog slap to right.

 
brink
brink replied on July 1st, 2008 at 7:27 pm

Wow. What can you say about baserunning like that? Inexcusable.

twayn
twayn replied on July 1st, 2008 at 7:28 pm

What can you say about baserunning like that?

It was Punto's fault.

 
 
brink
brink replied on July 1st, 2008 at 7:28 pm

Bert and Dick are doing the Pepsi Challenge between the old FSN camera angle and the new one. Bert says he likes the new one. I'm coming around to his point of view.

 
davidwatts
davidwatts replied on July 1st, 2008 at 7:29 pm

 
brink
brink replied on July 1st, 2008 at 7:29 pm

Ball 1 to Joyce looked awfully similar to Strike 2 to Redmond. Yet another papaya-shaped zone tonight?

 
meat
meat replied on July 1st, 2008 at 7:30 pm

Joyce strikes again.

twayn
twayn replied on July 1st, 2008 at 7:32 pm

Tales of Brave Ulysses.

brianS
brianS replied on July 1st, 2008 at 7:34 pm

mmm, Creamy.

 
 
 
brink
brink replied on July 1st, 2008 at 7:31 pm

Bob Chris Guccione quite emphatic with the strike call from third base. I guess when you're working third you gotta pick your spots.

 
twayn
twayn replied on July 1st, 2008 at 7:31 pm

Light Rail racks up another Ginger.

 
brianS
brianS replied on July 1st, 2008 at 7:31 pm

GoGo trying out for Cirque du Solei?

twayn
twayn replied on July 1st, 2008 at 7:33 pm

Just showing off his Jordanesque vertical.

 
 
davidwatts
davidwatts replied on July 1st, 2008 at 7:32 pm

this radio commercial for Majors restuarant sounds like it was recorded in a room lined with aluminum instead of padding

 
SBG
SBG replied on July 1st, 2008 at 7:34 pm

Robertson looks terrible. Let's get this chump.

Yickit
yickit replied on July 1st, 2008 at 7:36 pm

Yep. His shoe was the problem...

 
brink
brink replied on July 1st, 2008 at 7:36 pm

Agreed... get him NOW... before he figures out how to pitch again... games like this are so frustrating when you let the starter off the hook early and then he turns it around...

 
 
Rhubarb_Runner
Rhubarb_Runner replied on July 1st, 2008 at 7:35 pm

Apple Cinnamon Oatmeal & OJ tonight. Mock me if you must, but my cholesterol came back 167 from my physical last week.

cheaptoy
cheaptoy replied on July 1st, 2008 at 7:36 pm

I would never mock a man for eating breakfast for dinner.

Rhubarb_Runner
Rhubarb_Runner replied on July 1st, 2008 at 7:38 pm

You're a good man, ct

New Britain Bo
New Britain Bo replied on July 1st, 2008 at 7:42 pm

Brinner. Mmmm.

 
 
 
brianS
brianS replied on July 1st, 2008 at 7:42 pm

I prefer to take my oatmeal in a more liquified form

 
twayn
twayn replied on July 1st, 2008 at 7:44 pm

Exercise. Super Omege-3 (flax or fish). No mo' butter. Do the little things, Rhu_Ru.

New Britain Bo
New Britain Bo replied on July 1st, 2008 at 8:02 pm

Head to the River. Red River Cereal (wheat, rye, flax) as cereal or muffins.
(nod to SBG-ville).

 
Rhubarb_Runner
Rhubarb_Runner replied on July 1st, 2008 at 8:50 pm

167 is a good score - I have been doing the little things

that said, I have a nuclear stress test on Thursday AM; treadmill no problem, it's the radioactive IV I'm not looking forward to

 
 
 
brink
brink replied on July 1st, 2008 at 7:35 pm

My MLB.tv is done broke... it just displayed a 4-pitch walk to Delmon... unpossible.

meat
meat replied on July 1st, 2008 at 7:41 pm

Me fail english, thats unpossible.

 
 
twayn
twayn replied on July 1st, 2008 at 7:35 pm

Gameday skipped right over Young's AB.

 
Rhubarb_Runner
Rhubarb_Runner replied on July 1st, 2008 at 7:36 pm

deja vu. time for a WP

 
E-6
E-6 replied on July 1st, 2008 at 7:37 pm

Good to have ya back, Nicky.

 
SBG
SBG replied on July 1st, 2008 at 7:37 pm

Well, that definitely was Punto's fault.

 
brink
brink replied on July 1st, 2008 at 7:38 pm

Wow, Robertson's living right... looks terrible for the first 2.5 batters of each inning, then the Twins get bupkes.

 
twayn
twayn replied on July 1st, 2008 at 7:38 pm

 
cheaptoy
cheaptoy replied on July 1st, 2008 at 7:39 pm

Hey, with Span-Gomez-Casilla due up, I'm hoping for some sort of bunting world record.

 
twayn
twayn replied on July 1st, 2008 at 7:39 pm

Baker's gotta be thinking he has to throw a CG shutout tonight. And even that might not be enough.

 
davidwatts
davidwatts replied on July 1st, 2008 at 7:40 pm

PUUUUNTTOOOOOOOO

twayn
twayn replied on July 1st, 2008 at 7:42 pm

Nicky is definitely an odd-numbered Star Trek flick.

 
 
meat
meat replied on July 1st, 2008 at 7:42 pm

anyone else getting the 'busy' tone over the audio feed?

brianS
brianS replied on July 1st, 2008 at 7:46 pm

I had to re-connect.

 
 
twayn
twayn replied on July 1st, 2008 at 7:46 pm

Hehe. Punto's first at bat will be good for 50 lineup construction comments on the Strib blogs.

cheaptoy
cheaptoy replied on July 1st, 2008 at 7:51 pm

Ever since I started coming here for game logs instead of the Strib, my blood pressure has dropped significantly.

brianS
brianS replied on July 1st, 2008 at 7:55 pm

The WGOM -- not just the greatest on-line magazine, it's a medical plan!