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Cup of Coffee: July 18, 2008

Posted by SBG on Friday, July 18th, 2008 at 6:30 am

The Twins get back to business tonight and I'm hopeful for the second half, even as I worry that somehow their less than stellar peripherals will catch up with them. Tonight, they start against the Rangers, the team with most runs scored -- and allowed -- in the league. They've got some serious mashers, even as their pitching staff has a collective negative VORP. As a result, they are muddling along just around .500.

Oh by the way, did you hear that they have Josh Hamilton? He like, so almost won that Home Run Derby!


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SBG
SBG replied on July 18th, 2008 at 6:58 am

This weekend I'll fix up that Links page. Please place your favorite links in here for me. Do it in this form:

The WGOM: http://www.stickandballguy.com/blog

so that I can drag and drop. I'm looking for Twins Blogs, favorite out of towners, friends of The WGOM, and other sites that you think will be of general interest for the SBG Nation. I retain ultimate decision making authority to determine whether a link gets put on here.

[In case you were wondering, I didn't do anything to make that hyperlink appear other than type the link. So, just type your links in and you, too, will make a snappy hyperlink appear.]

Andrew
Andrew replied on July 18th, 2008 at 7:49 am

Favorite Out of Towner:

Joe Posnanski http://www.joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog

SBG
SBG replied on July 18th, 2008 at 7:54 am

That's the one link I have in there in that category!!!!

Andrew
Andrew replied on July 18th, 2008 at 8:34 am

As long as we're covered. Gotta show JoePos some love.

 
 
Neil
Neil replied on July 18th, 2008 at 8:34 am

He wrote about dead ballparks the other day - I counted mine up and I've been to 11 dead ballparks (Tiger, Comiskey, Busch, County, Municipal, Memorial, The Met, Olympic, RFK, Riverfront, Three Rivers) and 8 still in use (Dome, Miller, Camden, Wrigley, Fenway, New Comiskey, Kaufmann, and Skydome). I'll end up having missed both NYs and Oakland (though I wouldn't say I've missed it). All of which triggered a nice nostalgic email discussion with my dad and brother. Gee, thanks Joe!

SBG
SBG replied on July 18th, 2008 at 8:39 am

My dead parks:
The Met, County Stadium, Old Comiskey, Busch, Three Rivers, Veterans

Dying:
Shea Stadium, Yankee Stadium, Metrodome

Living:
Arizona, Texas, Wrigley, Kaufmann, Camden

Neil
Neil replied on July 18th, 2008 at 8:45 am

I always kind of liked County in its own crusty, yeasty sort of way. I remember sitting in a section where they were people were just passing around huge bags of peanuts and potato chips. And Molitor hitting a disputed HR over the 362 sign - when the Tale of the Tape was flashed on the scoreboard it said 361.

SBG
SBG replied on July 18th, 2008 at 8:52 am

I liked County Stadium, too. I went to three games there -- sat in the family section, no drinking, but right behind the plate!.

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Neil
Neil replied on July 18th, 2008 at 9:01 am

I'm debating whether to even take the kid to the Dome. I probably will at some point, but I'm glad she'll never remember it.

 
 
Andrew
Andrew replied on July 18th, 2008 at 8:42 am

Old Busch, Shea*, Vet in Philly, Metrodome* are my dead parks.

*Circling the drain

Neil
Neil replied on July 18th, 2008 at 8:47 am

I had originally thought I had been to the Vet, but it turns out no. Having been to STL, CIN, and PIT though I think it's an understandable mistake.

 
 
AMR
AMR replied on July 18th, 2008 at 8:52 am

Dead: County
Dying: HHH, Yankee
Alive: Wrigley

Oddly, isn't my livest the oldest?

Oh, and
Living Minor: Midway

Dread Pirate Will Young
Dread Pirate Will Young replied on July 18th, 2008 at 9:54 am

Dying: HHH, Yankee, Rosenblatt (College World Series)
Dead: RFK

 
 
socaltwinsfan
socaltwinsfan replied on July 18th, 2008 at 10:33 am

Dead: Kingdome (actually saw that one executed on TV).
Dying: Metrodome
Alive: Petco, Safeco, Angel Stadium, Kauffman.

I also had lunch at Miller Park one time, but that was with a foot of snow on the field in January.

Dread Pirate Will Young
Dread Pirate Will Young replied on July 18th, 2008 at 10:38 am

My cousin was the video coordinator for the Seahawks for 9 years. They let him scout out locations and use his video technology to film the Kingdome's demise from many angles.

 
brianS
brianS replied on July 18th, 2008 at 10:57 am

counting only stadia I attended for baseball

Dead: the Met, Memorial Stadium (Balt.), Jack Murphy (dead to baseball, anyway), old Comiskey, Busch Memorial,

Dying: the Hump, Yanqui,

Alive: the Ted, new Comiskey, Safeco, Wrigley, Fenway, Camden Yards

the Undead: the Mausoleum

embarrased I haven't been to yet: [insert telcom co name here] Stadium

best Minor League parks I've enjoyed: Raley Field (Sacramento); Oldsmobile Park (Lansing -- didn't attend a game, but admired from across the street, where there was a very nice brewpub)

 
 
E-6
E-6 replied on July 18th, 2008 at 10:58 am

Dead: Met, Memorial, County, Comisky, Candlestick, Fulton Co.

Dying: HHH, Yankee, Shea

Living: Fenway, Anaheim (before remodels), Pac Bell, Dodger, Miller

 
davidwatts
davidwatts replied on July 18th, 2008 at 11:06 am

I've only been to Metrodome

Neil
Neil replied on July 18th, 2008 at 11:14 am

Road trip!

davidwatts
davidwatts replied on July 18th, 2008 at 11:18 am

yep
next year my friend and I are going to a game in Chicago or Kansas City
or that is the plan

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Neil
Neil replied on July 18th, 2008 at 11:32 am

When I was a kid, my dad would take my brothers and I on baseball road trips in the summer, which is how I've been to so many parks. Montreal was by far the worst - cold hot dogs. Fenway was the best - sunny Sunday afternoon game, deep fried dough (yum) behind the Monster.
Probably my mom's favorite 2 weeks of the year.

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Rhubarb_Runner
Rhubarb_Runner replied on July 18th, 2008 at 8:22 am

Man, don't forget da Palehose http://palehose8.blogspot.com

(btw, Twins reference in latest comic)

 
AMR
AMR replied on July 18th, 2008 at 8:29 am

Here are mine:

Favorite out-of-towners:
Rany on the Royals (Royals fan of Rob and Rany fame):
http://www.ranyontheroyals.com/

Palehose 8 (ChiSox cartoon):
http://palehose8.blogspot.com/

General Baseball:
UniWatch Blog ([still?] source of the most incoming links):
http://uniwatchblog.com/

The Dugout:
http://wordupthome.com/

Dread Pirate Will Young
Dread Pirate Will Young replied on July 18th, 2008 at 10:03 am

Out of towners:

Looking Landing (love them bitter but hilarious M's fans):
USS Mariner
Shysterball

 
 
 
SBG
SBG replied on July 18th, 2008 at 7:03 am

Oh, by the way, Lucy, BabySBG, and I are heading to Cottage View tonight for a viewing of the new Batman movie. I am super excited about this!!!!! Here is the NY Times review.

Algonad
Algonad replied on July 18th, 2008 at 8:34 am

Just don't give anything away here on the WGOM! I actually have a sitter for Saturday night but decided I couldn't handle getting to the theatre an hour early and being surrounded by 16 year olds so we're going to go to Forgetting Sarah Marshall instead. I'm a sucker for immature comedies.

SBG
SBG replied on July 18th, 2008 at 8:35 am

Pile the kids in the car and head to the drive in. That's living!

Algonad
Algonad replied on July 18th, 2008 at 8:54 am

If I thought they'd fall asleep, I'd do it. They'd stay awake and watch the movie and have nightmares for months. I'm still paying for taking the 5 year old to Firehouse Dog! I thought that would be safe.

 
 
brianS
brianS replied on July 18th, 2008 at 10:40 am

ditto. I'm taking the Boy sunday, prolly to the local IMAX to see it on the zillion-foot screen.

SBG
SBG replied on July 18th, 2008 at 10:51 am

It is showing at the IMAX at Minnesota Zoo. Dilemma. Go to drive-in or send wife and baby to zoo (we're members) while I watch it on big screen (wife would have no interest in that).

 
 
twayn
twayn replied on July 18th, 2008 at 1:15 pm

True story. I was working at KCRG-TV in Cedar Rapids when the first Batman movie came out, the one with Jack Nicholson as the Joker. They hype was incredible at the time. One of the theaters had an early showing, so we sent a reporter to cover it and do a package for the 5:00 news. He got back to the station a little late and they were really pushing deadline, so instead of running in the second news block the producer bumped it to the end of the newscast. They finished editing with just a couple of minutes to spare and ran it to the tape room. So we're sitting in the newsroom, watching it on the monitor, and it's a pretty typical story, people milling around the theater, clips from the film, etc. At the end of the piece the reporter had soundbites with reactions from audience members who had just finished watching. The last soundbite?
"How did you like the movie?"
"Oh, man, it was awesome, just completely awesome, especially at the end when the Joker falls off the tower!"
Five seconds of dead silence. Then the news director turned to us with this totally aghast expression on his face and said, "Did he just give away the ending of the movie?"
That's when the phones started ringing.

ubelmann
ubelmann replied on July 18th, 2008 at 1:30 pm

Gotta love live TV.

 
davidwatts
davidwatts replied on July 18th, 2008 at 3:54 pm

HAHA
great story twayn

 
AMR
AMR replied on July 18th, 2008 at 4:22 pm

Damnit Twayn, now I'm never gonna watch that movie, seeing as how I now know how it ends.

 
 
 
Andrew
Andrew replied on July 18th, 2008 at 8:38 am

I'm taking Liz for her birthday sometime this weekend. I don't know why, but Batman Begins didn't look appealing to me, so I never saw it first time around. [Stephen A. Smith]HOWEVA [/Stephen A. Smith], The Dark Knight looks incredibly bad-ass. I watched BB online here at work yesterday so I'm caught up.

SBG
SBG replied on July 18th, 2008 at 8:40 am

Batman Begins was awesome, dude. Awesome.

Andrew
Andrew replied on July 18th, 2008 at 8:43 am

Believe me, I learned the error of my ways.

Dread Pirate Will Young
Dread Pirate Will Young replied on July 18th, 2008 at 9:59 am

Don't feel too bad, Andrew. I also skipped BB in theaters and never saw it until last December. Then, I thought it was so awesome that I rewatched it 3 times in a week.

Generally, I really dislike comic book movies, but Christopher Nolan's badassery obviously can overcome the comic book aspect.

E-6
E-6 replied on July 18th, 2008 at 11:32 am

Christopher Nolan's badassery

If you haven't seen his debut, Following, I suggest you seek it out. He wrote, directed and shot the thing himself. Handicapped with no budget, forced to shoot over a period of a year because all of the actors had real jobs, it still manages to mark the arrival of major talent. It employs a multi-linear narrative devise similar to the one he used in Memento.

(There's also a scene where one character's apartment door sports a Batman sticker.)

I plan on hitting a matinee next week after the crowds have thinned (a hair, anyway.)

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Rhubarb_Runner
Rhubarb_Runner replied on July 18th, 2008 at 8:53 am

yeah, that's one "reboot" that worked real well. nice to see the franchise on solid footing now

kg2005
kg2005 replied on July 18th, 2008 at 9:49 am

The Dark Knight does not disappoint. I went to the midnight showing last night. It was everything you could want in a Batman movie.

SBG
SBG replied on July 18th, 2008 at 9:55 am

I wanted to do that, too, but it was not in the cards for me.

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kg2005
kg2005 replied on July 18th, 2008 at 10:23 am

You can do crazy things like that while you're still in college. :)

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New Guy
New Guy replied on July 18th, 2008 at 10:25 am

I went to the midnight show as well. Terrible, terrible experience. The theater was completely choked with spastic teenagers, I had the worst seats possible, there were numerous projection problems leading to several minutes of the movie being missed, and I didn't realize I wouldn't get out of the theater until nearly 3am. I will probably never go to another midnight opening again.

Great movie though.

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Andrew
Andrew replied on July 18th, 2008 at 11:22 am

I did the midnight showing of X3 back when it came out. I had pretty much the same experience. Were there fanboys dressed up at all? Because I was sitting pretty close to the world's fattest Wolverine. I'm never going again. If I have my say, we'll go to the 11:30 showing Sunday morning while most people are at church, hangover permitting of course.

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New Guy
New Guy replied on July 18th, 2008 at 11:38 am

There were a couple people dressed up, but not too many. But there was one hilarious moment when the projector went out: There was a guy dressed as Batman near the back of the theater and a guy dressed as the Joker at the front of the theater, and when the lights came on suddenly and it dissolved into anarchy the Joker guy stood up and shouted a challenge to the Batman guy. The whole theater started chanting for them to fight, and eventually Batman caved in and ran to the front to do battle or whatever. I kinda wanted to see what the two nerds would actually do, but right as Batman made it to Joker's row the movie came back on and he returned to his seat.

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cheaptoy
cheaptoy replied on July 18th, 2008 at 1:00 pm

I badly want to see this movie, but I completely refuse to see huge-hype movies on opening weekend in my get-off-my-lawn age (26). I can't stand the throngs of teenagers that nearly ruin the experience. I'm gonna wait two or three weeks, then hit a matinee in a half empty theatre. I did that with Iron Man, got the seats I wanted and didn't have to deal with a crowd. It was awesome. That, and my girlfriend let me go to that instead of Sex and the City.

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kg2005
kg2005 replied on July 18th, 2008 at 1:24 pm

My theater experience actually wasn't too bad. Got there an hour early to get decent seats, then had to deal with some people in costume and screaming drunks, but once the movie started there wasn't a word out of anybody.

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smalls
smalls replied on July 18th, 2008 at 12:30 pm

Andrew, where did you find it to watch on the net? I could find no such source despite a feverish attempt to find it yesterday.

Andrew
Andrew replied on July 18th, 2008 at 12:33 pm

Here you are.

 
 
 
Dread Pirate Will Young
Dread Pirate Will Young replied on July 18th, 2008 at 9:55 am

Sheenie and I are likely headed to the Cottage View on Saturday night. I was pretty pumped when I saw yesterday that they're showing Batman.

SBG
SBG replied on July 18th, 2008 at 10:01 am

The drive in is my one source of out of the house entertainment. We leave right about BabySBG's bedtime, so that she's sleeping when we get there. Planning!

Dread Pirate Will Young
Dread Pirate Will Young replied on July 18th, 2008 at 10:06 am

It was fun because a) Sheenie had never been before last weekend, b) we could bring the dog, c) we could eat whatever we wanted!

SBG
SBG replied on July 18th, 2008 at 10:24 am

I actually grilled at the Cottage View earlier this year. It was against the rules (you can at ValiHi), but I was almost done by the time they came and told me not to. I do want to have a grilling experience at Vali Hi sometime this summer.

 
 
 
 
 
davidwatts
davidwatts replied on July 18th, 2008 at 9:16 am

Speaking of JoePos, I just order his book "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America" yesterday. I've been watching Ken Burn's "Baseball" (thank you Netflix!) and just listening to Buck O'Neill talk inspired me to get the book.

Bonus! it was only $6 for the hardcover

Andrew
Andrew replied on July 18th, 2008 at 9:54 am

I reviewed "The Soul of Baseball" for the SBG Library. It was a great book. You'll enjoy it I'm sure.

 
Dread Pirate Will Young
Dread Pirate Will Young replied on July 18th, 2008 at 9:57 am

While watching the Ken Burns series, you should be aware that the players they show with the letter "P" on their jersey either played for the Philadelphia Athletics or the Philadelphia Phillies. Oh, they could also be Pittsburgh Pirates.

While the old footage was great, it would have been bettered if titled Ken Burns's "History of Baseball Played in New York City or Boston Unless the Boston Team Happened to be the Boston Braves in which Case We'll Ignore It"

davidwatts
davidwatts replied on July 18th, 2008 at 10:15 am

oh yeah, Im aware of that.
I actually thought it was pretty fair until Babe Ruth, then the whole thing becomes New York obsessed
(Im up to the 1950's section now)

There is a show on FSN called 'Baseballs Golden Age' (new episodes are shown Sunday nights). It has some awesome footage of old baseball stadiums and palyers and whatnots

Dread Pirate Will Young
Dread Pirate Will Young replied on July 18th, 2008 at 10:33 am

I caught an episode the other day and agree - it was a great, great show.

AMR
AMR replied on July 18th, 2008 at 11:23 am

Ditto. The part I watched was about the Cards during the depression. "Gaslamp Gang" or something like that.

I was wondering if they've got any footage of the Negro Leagues.

SBG
SBG replied on July 18th, 2008 at 11:31 am

I believe it was the "Gashouse Gang".

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Dread Pirate Will Young
Dread Pirate Will Young replied on July 18th, 2008 at 11:33 am

The footage of the Gashouse Gang playing pepper was great. It was like a baseball version of the Harlem Globetrotters.

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davidwatts
davidwatts replied on July 18th, 2008 at 11:43 am

I remember old Tiger Stadium having a sign behind home plate somewhere that read 'No Pepper'
I was too young to understand what that meant.

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brianS
brianS replied on July 18th, 2008 at 12:01 pm

Gaslamp Gang:

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davidwatts
davidwatts replied on July 18th, 2008 at 11:41 am

I havent watched that one yet (Its one my DVR)

as for the Negro Leagues, in "Baseball", there is some footage of the Negro Leagues (looks like a lot of the footage was shot at old Comisky Park in Chiago), and a few reels shot in color

 
 
 
 
 
brianS
brianS replied on July 18th, 2008 at 10:42 am

btw,

Sweep. The Twins are score a ton of runs against that "pitching staff".

?? All your base are ours.

SBG
SBG replied on July 18th, 2008 at 10:48 am

Fixed.

brianS
brianS replied on July 18th, 2008 at 11:00 am

awwwwwww.

 
 
 
brianS
brianS replied on July 18th, 2008 at 12:14 pm

Some quality academic humor.

here's one special for GreekHouse.

and one for Andrew.

and ubelmann.

Andrew
Andrew replied on July 18th, 2008 at 12:30 pm

I LOVE xkcd. This is my personal favorite.

New Guy
New Guy replied on July 18th, 2008 at 12:50 pm

I have always been partial to this one.

 
 
 
SBG
SBG replied on July 18th, 2008 at 1:32 pm

Joe Sheehan (sub. req.):

The Twins can't count on an anomalous performance with runners in scoring position to continue. To win the AL Central, they have to improve the roster. Trading for Beltre and swapping out Livan Hit-nandez for Francisco Liriano would change the story in the division immediately.

Amen, brother.

Algonad
Algonad replied on July 18th, 2008 at 1:47 pm

I'm not real high on Beltre. I think he'd be an upgrade over Buscher/Harris but not enough of an upgrade that I'd be willing to pay much in $$ or prospects.