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Game 97: Rangers at Twins

Posted by ubelmann on Saturday, July 19th, 2008 at 5:00 pm

Matt Harrison vs. Livan

If Livan was any other pitcher on the staff, I'd point to his 5.44 ERA, 4.62 xFIP, and .346 BABIP and I would conclude that he's been some combination of unlucky on balls in play and poor defensive support. So that's exactly what I'm going to tell you--Livan's been some combination of unlucky on balls in play and poor defensive support.

I still don't think he was a good deal at $5-7M, but that doesn't mean the man can't be unlucky. And yes, I realize that there's a good chance this could seem silly after the game, given the way that Texas can mash, but that's my story and I'm stickin' with it--Livan's ERA and hits total have been inflated by some combination of luck and poor defense. That doesn't make him great, but he has deserved better so far.

Harrison was projected by PECOTA to be about a replacement level pitcher with a ~5.50 ERA. In particular, he's not too good at missing bats.

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SBG
SBG replied on July 19th, 2008 at 5:05 pm

Tonight's going to be that high scoring game I was threatening last night.

 
Geoff
Geoff replied on July 19th, 2008 at 5:59 pm

Im enjoying my free week of MLB extra innings on directv. Do you guys think the Livan is feeling any heat with Liriano's run in AAA and his agent making noise?

 
Dread Pirate Will Young
Dread Pirate Will Young replied on July 19th, 2008 at 6:03 pm

I had a friend in middle school named Matt Harrison. He moved to Upstate New York and I bumped into him a couple of times while I was in DC.

ubelmann
ubelmann replied on July 19th, 2008 at 6:19 pm

I'm almost done, Will. Just proofing/tweaking one last time before I send you what should essentially be the final draft.

 
ubelmann
ubelmann replied on July 19th, 2008 at 6:37 pm

Finished draft in your inbox now.

 
 
meat
meat replied on July 19th, 2008 at 6:10 pm

evening folks.

ubelmann
ubelmann replied on July 19th, 2008 at 6:17 pm

Good afternoon, meat.

 
 
brianS
brianS replied on July 19th, 2008 at 6:15 pm

Did this guy have some sort of problems as a youth??

ubelmann
ubelmann replied on July 19th, 2008 at 6:18 pm

I dunno. I don't ever remember hearing about him throwing a bat at an umpire. How bad could his problems have been?

brianS
brianS replied on July 19th, 2008 at 6:21 pm

no, the other guy. Jay Hamilton? John Madison? Alexander Jay?

[ed: err, right. what you said, ubes]

 
 
 
brianS
brianS replied on July 19th, 2008 at 6:16 pm

Hey, meat! Wave "hi" to Mrs S and the Girl tonight. They'll be flying in to your city, on their way to Santa Fe.

meat
meat replied on July 19th, 2008 at 6:19 pm

bS, I think they need to stop in at the Marble brewery for the IPA challenge- 9 breweries with wild IPAs- I have had my fill.

brianS
brianS replied on July 19th, 2008 at 6:22 pm

I wish. The Mrs. approves of beer breath (whew!) but doesn't have any taste for the stuff herself.

 
meat
meat replied on July 19th, 2008 at 6:23 pm

Oh yeah- the Museum of Fine Art in Santa Fe has a great glass art show up. Some really great stuff- worth the trip for sure, then the cowgirl hall of fame for lunch- I think I know what I'm doing tomorrow.

 
 
 
meat
meat replied on July 19th, 2008 at 6:17 pm

That Hamilton guy has a great story.

 
brianS
brianS replied on July 19th, 2008 at 6:19 pm

 
meat
meat replied on July 19th, 2008 at 6:21 pm

Livan with the early K. Good sign? I think so.

 
ubelmann
ubelmann replied on July 19th, 2008 at 6:22 pm

Gomez 4-pitch walk??? I think Gordo and Jack are trying to play a trick on me.

 
brianS
brianS replied on July 19th, 2008 at 6:24 pm

I have to make the airport run in 2-3 minutes, so it would be nice if jeebus would deliver a miracle here.

 
meat
meat replied on July 19th, 2008 at 6:25 pm

D'oh, boo.

 
ubelmann
ubelmann replied on July 19th, 2008 at 6:25 pm

We was robbed of our robbery!

 
ubelmann
ubelmann replied on July 19th, 2008 at 6:26 pm

W00T Mauer Pauer!

 
meat
meat replied on July 19th, 2008 at 6:26 pm

D'oh, that stolen base attempt blows. Thank god for his son.

ubelmann
ubelmann replied on July 19th, 2008 at 6:30 pm

I dunno. I'm okay with the attempt. It wasn't like Casilla was thrown out by a mile (Jack Morris thought the replay showed he was clearly safe, actually), and Mauer doesn't hit for that much power. Get Casilla to second there and a single from Mauer or Morneau scores a run. 'Twas unfortunate that Casilla got caught, but as they say, no risk, no reward.

twayn
twayn replied on July 19th, 2008 at 6:32 pm

Casilla was actually on his way up from his slide into second when the tag was made. Replays clearly show he was safe.

 
meat
meat replied on July 19th, 2008 at 6:37 pm

I'm not opposed to the stolen base attempt in that situation, my comment should have read something closer to: "as an arm chair quarterback I wish I could take that SB attempt back". I still thank god for his son.Now that Chris Davis has hit a HR it blows even more. SBG's prediction may just come true.

twayn
twayn replied on July 19th, 2008 at 6:41 pm

With Livan pitching, a high scoring game is less prediction than extrapolation.

meat
meat replied on July 19th, 2008 at 6:45 pm

If we lose this game 2-1 I think that my head may explode.

 
 
 
 
brink
brink replied on July 19th, 2008 at 6:31 pm

It was a clutch CS. It put Harrison back in the windup which gave Mauer a better look at that pitch.

In fact, I credit Casilla with at least half that HR. Good job, kid.

 
 
twayn
twayn replied on July 19th, 2008 at 6:28 pm

Two things. CB Bucknor sucks at umpiring. Joe Mauer is a stud.

brink
brink replied on July 19th, 2008 at 6:29 pm

What a name. I always get him confused with a real estate brokerage.

 
 
brink
brink replied on July 19th, 2008 at 6:28 pm

Wow, 5 of 6 HRs now vs. lefties for Mauer. Strange split.

greenmachine
greenmachine replied on July 19th, 2008 at 6:30 pm

He hit two real deep into CF last night. Hit to left or right those would have been HR or XBH. ON Gameday it looked like this one took the same trajectory.

 
 
greenmachine
greenmachine replied on July 19th, 2008 at 6:29 pm

JOOOOOOOOEEE MAUUUUUEEERRRR

 
twayn
twayn replied on July 19th, 2008 at 6:36 pm

Livan
you suck

ubelmann
ubelmann replied on July 19th, 2008 at 6:38 pm

Livan :(

greenmachine
greenmachine replied on July 19th, 2008 at 6:45 pm

Mmmm, walk and a homer, that's a recipe for defense-independent runs if I ever saw one.

ubelmann
ubelmann replied on July 19th, 2008 at 6:49 pm

Perkins was flirting with trouble yesterday--3 BB, just 1 K, and 8 fly balls over six innings. It got a lot of people excited, but I'm voting fluctuation rather than concrete step forward. (It was a fun fluctuation, though.)

greenmachine
greenmachine replied on July 19th, 2008 at 7:14 pm

I agree. Didn't seem like the control was there - though apparently he's trying out this new slider, so probably he's just a genius.

ubelmann
ubelmann replied on July 19th, 2008 at 7:19 pm

The idea of Perkins throwing a slider intrigues me. It could be a pitch that gets him more swings-and-misses or more groundballs. But I'll wait 'til he starts getting results with it before I'll believe that it's actually going to be a good pitch.

(LTEs wont nest below this level)
 
 
 
 
 
 
punmanbowler
punmanbowler replied on July 19th, 2008 at 6:41 pm

How many runs will it take to move Livan and make room for Liriano?

ubelmann
ubelmann replied on July 19th, 2008 at 6:47 pm

I don't think the Twins will treat a 4-run, 6IP start any differently than they would treat a 7-run, 2.1IP start.

 
twayn
twayn replied on July 19th, 2008 at 6:47 pm

I think it will have to get pretty bad. I'm convinced the FO sees Liriano as insurance right now, and his agent as a pain in the ass.

 
 
punmanbowler
punmanbowler replied on July 19th, 2008 at 6:49 pm

So... catch me up. What does everyone think the best deal is for the Twins to make this deadline? Beltre? Blake? Atkins? South Beach? (Just kidding)

ubelmann
ubelmann replied on July 19th, 2008 at 6:53 pm

Atkins is probably completely unavailable, Beltre is essentially unobtainable, and Blake has two strikes against him (Twins already gave up on him once and would have to trade within the division.) I'm thinking no deal.

(I saw a dreamer post a Livan for Wilson Betemit rumor. That would be amazing if the Twins could pull that off.)

 
 
meat
meat replied on July 19th, 2008 at 6:50 pm

Did you guys know, that Hamilton guy has a great story.

twayn
twayn replied on July 19th, 2008 at 6:55 pm

I have a bookcase full of great stories. What's the big deal?

ubelmann
ubelmann replied on July 19th, 2008 at 6:57 pm

I heard that Hamilton has a library of great stories. In fact, I heard that only Yankee Stadium has more great stories than Josh Hamilton.

 
meat
meat replied on July 19th, 2008 at 7:08 pm

lor

This guy wrote a great story, didn't live one. That's the difference.

twayn
twayn replied on July 19th, 2008 at 7:17 pm

You should read a biography of Tolkien. He actually did live a great story. He just wasn't a drug addict.

meat
meat replied on July 19th, 2008 at 7:19 pm

touche, but the drugs make the story.

 
 
 
 
 
brink
brink replied on July 19th, 2008 at 6:50 pm

Geoff, glad you reminded me about the free Extra Innings week. I was watching via MLB.tv -- nice to get the better quality for a change.

 
ubelmann
ubelmann replied on July 19th, 2008 at 6:55 pm

Fun with endpoints! Span is 1-15 going back to July 11th.

meat
meat replied on July 19th, 2008 at 7:04 pm

I like this, If you go not far enough back Span is like 0-1 1-2 tonight.

 
 
meat
meat replied on July 19th, 2008 at 7:00 pm

that was a nice 8 pitch inning for Livan.

 
Beau
Beau replied on July 19th, 2008 at 7:01 pm

Livan with the six-pitch inning. Sign him to an extension!

 
ubelmann
ubelmann replied on July 19th, 2008 at 7:08 pm

Delmon has his OPS+ up to 100 now.

 
twayn
twayn replied on July 19th, 2008 at 7:09 pm

Monroe. I'll take the RBI, but if would have run out of the box instead of admiring his near home run he'd have been safe at second.

 
meat
meat replied on July 19th, 2008 at 7:09 pm

Dyoung comes through with some soft placement.

 
ubelmann
ubelmann replied on July 19th, 2008 at 7:09 pm

Monroe with a blessing and a curse, and then Delmon follows with an RBI.

 
Guppy
Guppy replied on July 19th, 2008 at 7:11 pm

You wrote it before I could, Twayn. Monroe keeps pissing me off.

 
meat
meat replied on July 19th, 2008 at 7:14 pm

Tony O in the booth. That guy is great.

 
meat
meat replied on July 19th, 2008 at 7:17 pm

Livan dealing right now. I suppose that this isn't good for Liriano's agent.

 
E-6
E-6 replied on July 19th, 2008 at 7:22 pm

Tony O just called GoGo a very smart player. At least I think that's what he said. ;)

 
ubelmann
ubelmann replied on July 19th, 2008 at 7:23 pm

My roommate on John Gordon's interview with Tony O: "They can't even find good questions to ask about getting old."

And, I feel like I must have heard this wrong--but did Tony Oliva really say that Gomez is a really smart player?

 
E-6
E-6 replied on July 19th, 2008 at 7:27 pm

 
meat
meat replied on July 19th, 2008 at 7:27 pm

The Mountie!

 
ubelmann
ubelmann replied on July 19th, 2008 at 7:28 pm

Walk did haunt. Attaboy Morneau!

 
Guppy
Guppy replied on July 19th, 2008 at 7:28 pm

Amazing prediction on Morneau's double

 
greenmachine
greenmachine replied on July 19th, 2008 at 7:29 pm

Terrible play by play by Gordo, but MOUNTIE! Is he man, or ANIMAL???

twayn
twayn replied on July 19th, 2008 at 7:38 pm

Why, he's both, of course.
manimal

 
 
E-6
E-6 replied on July 19th, 2008 at 7:32 pm


Pretty sure Burroughs never won a home run contest, either.

 
ubelmann
ubelmann replied on July 19th, 2008 at 7:36 pm

Board Game not fast enough to take advantage of Morneau's bobble.

 
New Guy
New Guy replied on July 19th, 2008 at 7:36 pm

We got the good Livan today?

 
E-6
E-6 replied on July 19th, 2008 at 7:38 pm

Dread-Pirate!

 
Beau
Beau replied on July 19th, 2008 at 7:38 pm

Delmonate!

 
New Guy
New Guy replied on July 19th, 2008 at 7:38 pm

Holy crap Deluge just clobbered that ball!

 
meat
meat replied on July 19th, 2008 at 7:38 pm

D young! Some huge placement there.

E-6
E-6 replied on July 19th, 2008 at 7:42 pm

I love it when it's placed over the fence.

 
 
ubelmann
ubelmann replied on July 19th, 2008 at 7:38 pm

Where's the Hell freezing over graphic?

E-6
E-6 replied on July 19th, 2008 at 7:41 pm


Delmonstrative.

 
 
greenmachine
greenmachine replied on July 19th, 2008 at 7:40 pm

Oh boy, beating up on Texas pitchers is fun.

meat
meat replied on July 19th, 2008 at 7:42 pm

not getting beat upon by Texas hitters is also fun.

 
 
twayn
twayn replied on July 19th, 2008