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Game 118: Evil Empire vs. Twins

Posted by ubelmann on Monday, August 11th, 2008 at 6:00 pm

Ponson vs. Perkins

I don't know what it is, but I have this impression that pitchers heading to the Yankees--whether through the minors or in a trade--seem to regress when they put on the pinstripes. Ponson, for instance, had a fairly respectable 4.47 xFIP in Texas this season, but now has a 5.09 xFIP in New York. I'm guessing that the media would tell you that it's all about the pressure involved with playing in New York, but I kind of wonder if the Yankees have a problem at pitching coach.

One thing that doesn't come up very often in the talks of canning Gardy is that Rick Anderson would likely be gone if anything happened to Gardy, and I think that would be a decidedly bad thing for this team. It seems fairly rare that we get a pitcher and he totally screws the pooch, at least as compared to the hitters that we acquire. You can't squeeze lemonade out of an onion, but Rick Anderson even managed to help Ramon Ortiz and Livan Hernandez to outperform expectations for a while, delaying the inevitable. And I think he's had a lot to do with the Twins' ability to just pick up guys off the scrap heap and make them reasonable options out of the bullpen.

Anyway, it's probably not a huge deal--while I think that Rick Anderson is good, he probably gets paid about as much as he's worth to the team--but I thought it might be worth mentioning.

In a completely unrelated topic, Adam Everett's shoulder is still a problem. I really, really wish it wasn't a problem, but the state of his shoulder really puts Gardy in a bind. Harris is truly horrible at shortstop and should be stationed there only if a middle infielder gets pinch-hit for in the middle of the game. (I guess I could also see it if the other team is throwing a left-handed pitcher and we had a fly-ball/strikeout right-handed pitcher on the mound.) From limited observation, even with the bum shoulder, I think that Everett is going to save us more runs than Harris, but we're certainly not looking at the elite-level human vacuum that Everett was in the past.

But really, our shortstop options just suck right now and while Gardy might be able to pull some strings one way or another to make the most out of a bad situation--it's still a bad situation. If we had a second baseman, Punto would be the best guy to put at SS, but since Harris can't handle the footwork at second base and Everett has no experience there, it doesn't make much sense to force Punto into the shortstop position.

[SBG: Hey folks, it's the Last Regular Season Series between the Yankees and the Twins before the Yankees move into their new ballpark, so I thought I'd add my $0.02.

Player A: .287/.334/.390 OPS+ 97
Player B: .283/.346/.398 OPS+ 99

Player A is a player that's provided much angst among Twins fans. He's not hitting for power, he plays in the field like he's wearing roller skates, and we gave up a good young pitcher in Matt Garza to get him. Yep, it's Delmon Young.

Player B has been much criticized for his defense, too, although he's got more than his fair share of apologists. Defensive metrics have consistently rated him as one of the worst at his position for a long time. But, he's been able to justify that $20,000,000 a year salary with his hitting, clutchiness, and captaincy. Yep, Player B is Derek Jeter (yes, I realize that position adjustments are important). 2008 has seen a significant drop off for Jetes -- he's not had an OPS+ below 110 since his second year in the league. There was a lot of talk not that long ago about Jeter maybe getting to 4,000 hits. But, if this is an indication of his new level of play and not an aberration, he's still about three full seasons from 3,000 hits, which means he'll start his 38 year old season right about there. 4,000 hits seems out of the question. Still, though, we are talking about a shortstop getting to 3,000 hits. That's a pretty big deal. And my, he sure is dreamy.

Jeter has another two years and $41 million left on his 10 year deal. I would have to believe that the Yankees will sign him up for another five years after that, which would put him in a Yankee jersey through his 41 year old season. One wonders, though, what will happen if Jeter continues to put a line up like he has this year. Will the Yankees give a generally crappy shortstop with a league average or worse bat $100,000,000 or more to watch him head into his 40s? It will be interesting.]

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davidwatts
davidwatts replied on August 11th, 2008 at 7:10 pm

off topic: Evan Longoria out with a broken wrist

thats a shame :(

New Britain Bo
New Britain Bo replied on August 11th, 2008 at 7:15 pm

If Eva Longoria broke a wrist who would notice?

cheaptoy
cheaptoy replied on August 11th, 2008 at 7:17 pm

Tony Parker's pants?

 
 
 
davidwatts
davidwatts replied on August 11th, 2008 at 7:20 pm

Sidney Ponson kind of pwns the Twins
hope that is not the case tonight

cheaptoy
cheaptoy replied on August 11th, 2008 at 7:24 pm

Well, he did have a no hitter through 2/3 today.

 
brianS
brianS replied on August 11th, 2008 at 7:25 pm

No kidding. Career 11-2, 2.55 ERA in 16 appearances (106 innings). 5 HR, 58:27 K:BB.

 
 
brianS
brianS replied on August 11th, 2008 at 7:26 pm

Derek Jeter is the greatest player in baseball history.

New Britain Bo
New Britain Bo replied on August 11th, 2008 at 7:31 pm

Yeah, but can he do synchronized diving? If so, with whom?

brianS
brianS replied on August 11th, 2008 at 7:32 pm

isn't A-Rod back in play with his divorce?

 
E-6
E-6 replied on August 11th, 2008 at 7:35 pm

Paraphrasing Dorothy Parker: "If all the synchronized divers were laid end to end, I wouldn't be surprised."

New Britain Bo
New Britain Bo replied on August 11th, 2008 at 7:40 pm

From the wallpaper at the Algonquin:

I like to have a martini,
Two at the very most.
After three I'm under the table,
after four I'm under my host.

brianS
brianS replied on August 11th, 2008 at 7:46 pm

+8 olives

 
 
 
 
 
brianS
brianS replied on August 11th, 2008 at 7:31 pm

Doing the little things....

 
SBG
SBG replied on August 11th, 2008 at 7:31 pm

Terrible pickoff throw by Perkins. Now, he's in trouble.

 
E-6
E-6 replied on August 11th, 2008 at 7:32 pm

Doing the little things (to drive the fan-base crazy.)

 
New Britain Bo
New Britain Bo replied on August 11th, 2008 at 7:35 pm

Might need the dark power of the Fez to escape this mess.

New Britain Bo
New Britain Bo replied on August 11th, 2008 at 7:36 pm

Or mention of such.

E-6
E-6 replied on August 11th, 2008 at 7:40 pm

Sometimes the threat of the fez is all one needs. ;)

 
 
 
brianS
brianS replied on August 11th, 2008 at 7:35 pm

Pitcher's best friend.

 
socaltwinsfan
socaltwinsfan replied on August 11th, 2008 at 7:37 pm

I have a feeling there's going to be about 100 runners left on base tonight. Both teams are struggling but have been pretty good offensively, so pressing at key times will be common.

 
cheaptoy
cheaptoy replied on August 11th, 2008 at 7:40 pm

I think I might be ready to kill Tony Kornheiser by the end of the first quarter here.

 
FirstTimeLongTime
FirstTimeLongTime replied on August 11th, 2008 at 7:41 pm

With it being a Yankees game I get to watch it at home tonight. The girlfriend has had to come into the living room twice inquiring as to why I am dropping F bombs. Lets hope that I am done with those for the evening.

 
Beau
Beau replied on August 11th, 2008 at 7:43 pm

I'm Gamedaying it tonight. Would rather listen to diving than Gordo and Co. Plus, I get less pissed when the Twins lose on Gameday

 
davidwatts
davidwatts replied on August 11th, 2008 at 7:43 pm

ADAM EVERETTTT!!!!!

 
FirstTimeLongTime
FirstTimeLongTime replied on August 11th, 2008 at 7:43 pm

WOOT!!!!!!!!!!!

FirstTimeLongTime
FirstTimeLongTime replied on August 11th, 2008 at 7:44 pm

back to back?

FirstTimeLongTime
FirstTimeLongTime replied on August 11th, 2008 at 7:44 pm

nope.

 
 
 
bodly
bodly replied on August 11th, 2008 at 7:43 pm

WTF? Did that really happen?

 
SBG
SBG replied on August 11th, 2008 at 7:43 pm

Neverhitt!!!!!

 
brianS
brianS replied on August 11th, 2008 at 7:44 pm

Adam freakin' Everett???

I think I swallowed my gum.

FirstTimeLongTime
FirstTimeLongTime replied on August 11th, 2008 at 7:46 pm

brianS what is on tap this evening? I am indulging in a few fine Brooklyn Lagers.

brianS
brianS replied on August 11th, 2008 at 7:51 pm

still at "work".

I've been slumming with Lost Coast Great White, a very quaffable, session-worthy, California wit-style ale.

FirstTimeLongTime
FirstTimeLongTime replied on August 11th, 2008 at 7:55 pm

I had some Ephemere this past weekend. If you get the chance I highly recommend it. It is an apple beer from Quebec.

FirstTimeLongTime
FirstTimeLongTime replied on August 11th, 2008 at 7:56 pm

I recommend anything from the Unibroue breweries if you get the chance.

cheaptoy
cheaptoy replied on August 11th, 2008 at 8:00 pm

Maudite was probably the beer that finally convinced me that I did, in fact, love beer.

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FirstTimeLongTime
FirstTimeLongTime replied on August 11th, 2008 at 8:03 pm

The La Fin Du Monde is fantastic as well.

 
 
Gutzon
Gutzon replied on August 11th, 2008 at 10:06 pm

Even their two basic beers are fantastic. It's so good, and the Quebecois drink so damn much of it, they don't import any...

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New Britain Bo
New Britain Bo replied on August 11th, 2008 at 8:04 pm

Going to Q-bec this weekend. Where did you hang out?

FirstTimeLongTime
FirstTimeLongTime replied on August 11th, 2008 at 8:08 pm

Where in Quebec? Quebec City? Montreal?

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New Britain Bo
New Britain Bo replied on August 11th, 2008 at 8:13 pm

Auberge St. Antoine in Quebec City.

 
FirstTimeLongTime
FirstTimeLongTime replied on August 11th, 2008 at 8:15 pm

Never been. Good travels.

 
New Britain Bo
New Britain Bo replied on August 11th, 2008 at 8:20 pm

Big fan o' Montreal. Au Pied du Cochin. Not good for the cholesterol, tho.

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
twayn
twayn replied on August 11th, 2008 at 7:44 pm

Adam Everett -- Alternative Power Source.

 
socaltwinsfan
socaltwinsfan replied on August 11th, 2008 at 7:44 pm

From hero to goat to hero. Now, let's stay there for at least the rest of the game.

 
SBG
SBG replied on August 11th, 2008 at 7:45 pm

I guess Everett was just getting warmed up yesterday.

 
cheaptoy
cheaptoy replied on August 11th, 2008 at 7:45 pm

When the hell did they start doing synchronized diving? Also, why?

FirstTimeLongTime
FirstTimeLongTime replied on August 11th, 2008 at 7:47 pm

Gotta try out some replacements for baseball.

 
brianS
brianS replied on August 11th, 2008 at 7:48 pm

Sidney, 2000. Because the Australians couldn't get cricket, Aussie Rules football or rugby approved?

cheaptoy
cheaptoy replied on August 11th, 2008 at 7:50 pm

Huh, shows how much I've watched the olympics over the years.

It's not helping that the commentators are completely failing to make it sound interesting.

 
 
SBG
SBG replied on August 11th, 2008 at 7:49 pm

Why? To penalize men for any wrongdoing that they may have committed in between the Games.

cheaptoy
cheaptoy replied on August 11th, 2008 at 7:58 pm

That, or it was put in to balance out women's beach volleyball, perhaps?

 
 
E-6
E-6 replied on August 11th, 2008 at 7:53 pm

There's always been synchronized diving. It used to be called boxing.

New Britain Bo
New Britain Bo replied on August 11th, 2008 at 7:56 pm

+10 Salisbury steaks.

 
 
 
greenmachine
greenmachine replied on August 11th, 2008 at 7:46 pm

BIG EARS!!!!

 
socaltwinsfan
socaltwinsfan replied on August 11th, 2008 at 7:50 pm

The Yankees had 1st and 3rd, no outs with Ivan Rodriguez and Melky Cabrera due up. The Twins had two outs and no one on base with Brian Buscher and Adam Everett due up. Now, which of these teams scored two runs and which of these scored none?

 
davidwatts
davidwatts replied on August 11th, 2008 at 7:51 pm

gotta love the 0 runs on the board after we score a pair

 
socaltwinsfan
socaltwinsfan replied on August 11th, 2008 at 7:55 pm

With Ponson and Sexson in there, I would think a bunt to the first base side should be forthcoming.

 
davidwatts
davidwatts replied on August 11th, 2008 at 7:55 pm

Nick Punto has been terrible lately

 
twayn
twayn replied on August 11th, 2008 at 7:56 pm

Punto's at bats are getting to be as painful to watch as GoGo's.

 
FirstTimeLongTime
FirstTimeLongTime replied on August 11th, 2008 at 7:57 pm

These Yankees announcers are insufferable.

twayn
twayn replied on August 11th, 2008 at 8:04 pm

Insufferin' Succotash.

sam

 
 
twayn
twayn replied on August 11th, 2008 at 8:00 pm

You know, without even knowing who was behind the plate I've been bitching about the strike zone tonight. Seemed to me that Ponson is getting calls that Perkins is not. So I checked on Gameday. Brian Runge. I rest my case.

 
socaltwinsfan
socaltwinsfan replied on August 11th, 2008 at 8:01 pm

Ump is just not going to call that inside corner to the righties.

 
smalls
smalls replied on August 11th, 2008 at 8:06 pm

Wow, that Everett sure can chomp a piece of bubble yum.

 
Beau
Beau replied on August 11th, 2008 at 8:09 pm

Anyone else a bigger fan of six-man volleyball? The points seem to last longer. Watching May and Walsh is like watching Sampras and Phillipoussis.

cheaptoy
cheaptoy replied on August 11th, 2008 at 8:12 pm

I would agree with that. It'd be nice to see some actual volleys in a volleyball match.

 
 
SBG
SBG replied on August 11th, 2008 at 8:10 pm

The Dude with a little abiding.

 
FirstTimeLongTime
FirstTimeLongTime replied on August 11th, 2008 at 8:10 pm

Michael Kay just refered to Ron Coomer as a "good" hitter. Baseball reference disagrees.

davidwatts
davidwatts replied on August 11th, 2008 at 8:12 pm

* All Star Ron Coomer

FirstTimeLongTime
FirstTimeLongTime replied on August 11th, 2008 at 8:14 pm

Lets see if we can make that asterisk any bigger?

* all star Ron Coomer

That's better.

FirstTimeLongTime
FirstTimeLongTime replied on August 11th, 2008 at 8:16 pm

I tried to make my asterisk is bold.

It didnt work.

brianS
brianS replied on August 11th, 2008 at 8:20 pm

*******.

brianS
brianS replied on August 11th, 2008 at 8:21 pm

hrmmmmmmmmmmmm.

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E-6
E-6 replied on August 11th, 2008 at 8:21 pm

all star Ron Coomer

I got yer back, FTLT.

Rhubarb_Runner
Rhubarb_Runner replied on August 11th, 2008 at 8:31 pm

The embodiment of W.A.S.T.E.

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FirstTimeLongTime
FirstTimeLongTime replied on August 11th, 2008 at 8:11 pm

Alright folks, I'm out of here. Have a good night. Let's see if Everett's redemption holds up.

 
twayn
twayn replied on August 11th, 2008 at 8:12 pm

I imagine the pitching book on Delmon says something like "Anywhere in the left hand batter's box will do."

 
Rhubarb_Runner
Rhubarb_Runner replied on August 11th, 2008 at 8:12 pm

D@mn that dreadful non-pirate Young!

brianS
brianS replied on August 11th, 2008 at 8:22 pm

Just think of him as the outfielder version of Derek Jeter.

There, now. Don't you feel better about him