Game 123: Mariners vs. Twins
August 17th, 2008 by ubelmann
Feierabend vs. Perkins
Feierabend's had a pretty decent 13-game run in the minors this year--75 IP, 48 K, 15 BB, 2.04 ERA--especially considering that the PCL is a hitters' league. IIRC, though, he is mostly a no-stuff lefty who relies on command to work his magic. (Best pitch is probably his change, from what I understand.) I have absolutely no data to back this up--and I could be dead wrong--but I suspect that the Twins, as a team that hits for a high average* but don't really take many walks, should generally fare well against this sort of pitcher.
*At .277, they are 3rd in the AL, and the two teams ahead of them (Boston, Texas) play in pretty extreme hitters parks.
Clearly, Perkins has a problem with facing the Mariners in the 7th inning of games where he has a 5-run lead. If the Twins happen to be in that situation again, I suggest moving Perkins into the outfield and letting Delmon pitch the 7th. I mean, he's got a live arm and not all that much control, so he'd probably scare the crap out of Mariners batters--and would he really give up more than 10 runs? Then Perkins could come back for the 8th. I forget the rules exactly, but the Twins would probably lose the DH by employing this strategy. I think that ultimately it would be a good trade-off just to avoid the 10-run inning and get the bullpen some rest.
Now, the first step is getting a 5-run lead in the 7th inning again...
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Beau replied on August 17, 2008 at 12:05:38 pm
Has a pitcher taken the field and then came back to pitch any time in the last thirty years? That would be sweet
Eric in Madison replied on August 17, 2008 at 12:25:09 pm
I have vague memories of Davey Johnson doing this a few times as Mets manager in the 80s--I think he'd switch out relievers into the OF to get platoon matchups. I'll see if I can find a boxscore.
Eric in Madison replied on August 17, 2008 at 12:34:02 pm
Well, I can't find the boxscore, but in 1986, Roger McDowell and Jesse Orosco both played innings in the OF--I'm pretty sure they were back and forth from the mound.
Diggity Dino replied on August 17, 2008 at 6:34:22 pm
Bobby Cox pulled this move earlier in the year- put the pitcher in the OF, got the platoon matchup for 1 hitter, and then put the original pitcher back in.
nibbish replied on August 17, 2008 at 12:52:53 pm
Is this the one you're talking about?
Beau replied on August 17, 2008 at 1:17:56 pm
Thanks guys for the research. That's one cool boxscore, and quite genius use of the bullpen. In a do or die situation, I'm guessing the pitching matchups are more important than the small chance your pitcher will have to try and catch a really difficult fly ball (I imagine most can catch routine flies no problem). I wonder if the pitcher gets to warm up again if he comes in for a second time.
Beau replied on August 17, 2008 at 1:11:39 pm
I love the commercial about ash trees. It almost sounds like he's saying, "I've been swinging these ass bats for years." And then, "You do your part, and I'll make sure to put my ass to good work."
E-6 replied on August 17, 2008 at 1:24:38 pm
I hear it as "ass-bats" every time.
FirstTimeLongTime replied on August 17, 2008 at 1:16:01 pm
At least no one was on base for that Ibanez hit.
Beau replied on August 17, 2008 at 1:20:16 pm
Ugh. I would say 80% of the time the runner from first would score on a ground-rule double. I'm not sure there's an easy way to fix the rule, though.
FirstTimeLongTime replied on August 17, 2008 at 1:20:28 pm
Alright LNP has found his bat this series.
Rhubarb_Runner replied on August 17, 2008 at 1:21:35 pm
Ibanez taking fielding notes from Delmon?
FirstTimeLongTime replied on August 17, 2008 at 1:22:37 pm
IBB to Morneau?
Beau replied on August 17, 2008 at 1:22:45 pm
Mauer's splits
vs. LHP: 379/423/589
vs. RHP: 294/410/389
Wonder if he can keep this up for the rest of his career. That's amazing.
SBG replied on August 17, 2008 at 2:04:29 pm
I'm loading the WGOM Radio #2 and I talked about that. He's not, but wow, he's really improving as a hitter.
FirstTimeLongTime replied on August 17, 2008 at 1:25:13 pm
The Twins have been really hot in the first inning as of late. I like getting out to these early leads.
Beau replied on August 17, 2008 at 1:26:38 pm
The dude, the dude, the dude is on fire!
E-6 replied on August 17, 2008 at 1:30:23 pm
We're gonna need more Kahlua.
cheaptoy replied on August 17, 2008 at 2:22:51 pm
We should have no problem having enough of this stuff around, at least
*Edit: Sorry, that last picture was way bigger than I anticipated.
Beau replied on August 17, 2008 at 1:27:46 pm
Randolph! Everybody hits
FirstTimeLongTime replied on August 17, 2008 at 1:27:47 pm
Good thing we aren't starting Kubel against a lefty.Rhubarb_Runner replied on August 17, 2008 at 1:28:35 pm
If I remember my German, feierabend roughly = "evening fire", and if that's the case, what's he doing pitching in a day game?
Of course, Gordo's pronouncing it FEAR-bend, instead of foy-air-AH-bent.
Meanwhile, there's a pretty good fire going now, thank you very much.
Beau replied on August 17, 2008 at 1:30:17 pm
Dick's pronouncing it the same way
FirstTimeLongTime replied on August 17, 2008 at 1:33:12 pm
I figure it better that he pitches during the day. It would not be easy to pitch while there are flames on you, right?
brianS replied on August 17, 2008 at 3:52:43 pm
"abend" is evening. But "feier" isn't fire, it's "celebration".
so he's an evening party. or in this case, afternoon party.
"ei" is pronounced "aye" -- long "i" auf deutsch, whereas "eu" would get the "oy" treatment.
FirstTimeLongTime replied on August 17, 2008 at 1:28:35 pm
W00T!!! No need to slide head first into first base on that play!
FirstTimeLongTime replied on August 17, 2008 at 1:29:42 pm
It is pretty funny that Dickey is throwing them past the bullpen catcher...
E-6 replied on August 17, 2008 at 1:32:18 pm
It's funny until somebody gets hurt.
*channeling gym teachers everywhere
FirstTimeLongTime replied on August 17, 2008 at 1:34:42 pm
Somehow Delmon was still swinging at those balls...
E-6 replied on August 17, 2008 at 1:43:56 pm
UNO!
Beau replied on August 17, 2008 at 1:37:29 pm
Oh my word...Bert is trying to tell me that Everett "will make the routine plays." Harris has made more routine plays than him. Tell me about Everett's range or double play ability if you're going to talk up his defense
Beau replied on August 17, 2008 at 1:42:14 pm
Random stat: The Twins are 8-0 when Mauer homers.
twayn replied on August 17, 2008 at 1:44:54 pm
Uh oh, we have the dreaded five run lead again. And Joe Mauer is a hitting stud.
New Guy replied on August 17, 2008 at 1:51:14 pm
Well this game seems to have started in typical game-against-the-Mariners fashion. Why do they always turn out so weird?
Beau replied on August 17, 2008 at 1:54:05 pm
Was Dick a virgin in a past life? He is OBSESSED with sacrifices.
E-6 replied on August 17, 2008 at 1:57:33 pm
He may well be a virgin in this life.
twayn replied on August 17, 2008 at 1:55:42 pm
Pedroia is 0-2 today, so as of right now I believe Mauer leads the AL in batting average.
Rhubarb_Runner replied on August 17, 2008 at 1:57:28 pm
Ubelmann had some heartburn earlier in the season about our (percieved serious) references to "Jeremy" pitchers and Nathan Requisite Baserunner, but now he's starting a "7th Inning 5-Run Perkins" scenario; way to lighten up, dude
btw, nothing like facing the Marriners to help the offensive stats; wish the bullpen could also benefit.
twayn replied on August 17, 2008 at 2:01:06 pm
The bullpen will benefit most by not getting used.
Rhubarb_Runner replied on August 17, 2008 at 2:12:48 pm
Aaaaaa-men.
E-6 replied on August 17, 2008 at 1:59:42 pm
Man, it's gotta suck being a Mariners fan this year.
twayn replied on August 17, 2008 at 2:06:17 pm
Based on recent indications from their front office, it could suck being a Mariners fan next year as well.
New Guy replied on August 17, 2008 at 1:59:50 pm
Can we create a new verb for what the Twins do with runners in scoring position? Risping?
As in, Harris just risped that ball to score Kubel.
E-6 replied on August 17, 2008 at 2:06:40 pm
Nicky tries to be cute. In the words of Lou Grant, "I hate cute."
twayn replied on August 17, 2008 at 2:09:36 pm
Well, I'm out for the day, gents. Driving the kids up to Brainerd for a week at grandma's house. I hope Gordo and Dazzle mention the game every once in a while.
Rhubarb_Runner replied on August 17, 2008 at 2:17:01 pm
ooooh, party at twayn's this week
E-6 replied on August 17, 2008 at 2:10:48 pm
Punto almost gets a knuckle(r) sandwich.
Beau replied on August 17, 2008 at 2:19:16 pm
Now Dick telling me Young has great range in left field. Forget UZR...is he even watching the field?
SBG replied on August 17, 2008 at 2:21:15 pm
When you are wearing roller skates, you can cover a lot of ground.
cheaptoy replied on August 17, 2008 at 2:19:38 pm
Hey everyone, how's my brother's classmate doing?
I went bowling for the first time this summer, then followed it up with a round of disc golf. I think my arm might fall off.
E-6 replied on August 17, 2008 at 2:22:16 pm
Pony Boy looks good.
SBG replied on August 17, 2008 at 2:25:10 pm
I posted the second WGOM Radio. Now, I'm off to put together some bumper music.
E-6 replied on August 17, 2008 at 2:34:50 pm
Closed circuit to SBG: check your mail (in five minutes.)
New Guy replied on August 17, 2008 at 2:27:17 pm
Kubel is on fiyah!
cheaptoy replied on August 17, 2008 at 2:29:39 pm
If any of you are in Wisconsin and happen upon this label:
Buy it immediately, if you like German Hefeweizens.
Beau replied on August 17, 2008 at 2:34:23 pm
The radio guys must be in heaven with all these wild pitches
SBG replied on August 17, 2008 at 2:34:47 pm
This game underscores why I was so verklemt about losing 2 of 3 in Seattle. The Mariners suck hard.
FirstTimeLongTime replied on August 17, 2008 at 2:34:50 pm
this is getting kind of fun.
FirstTimeLongTime replied on August 17, 2008 at 2:36:54 pm
Okay, now I am just sort of feeling bad for Dickey.
New Guy replied on August 17, 2008 at 2:37:30 pm
What an embarrassing inning for both Dickey and Johjima. Enough to make Frank Robinson cry.
Beau replied on August 17, 2008 at 2:42:33 pm
Can't blame Johjima for most of them. Those were wild pitches.
SBG replied on August 17, 2008 at 2:51:17 pm
Jeebus, Perkins, no more gopher balls!
Rhubarb_Runner replied on August 17, 2008 at 2:52:45 pm
Ouch! Is it the 7th already?
E-6 replied on August 17, 2008 at 2:54:07 pm
Perkins gets a couple of tattoos in the 6th.
New Guy replied on August 17, 2008 at 2:54:46 pm
Okay, seriously, what is it about the Mariners?
E-6 replied on August 17, 2008 at 2:57:26 pm
It must be some sort of flannel equinox.
cowdisciple replied on August 17, 2008 at 2:55:51 pm
What's that you say?
Nomore gopher balls?Rhubarb_Runner replied on August 17, 2008 at 2:56:00 pm
Boy, when Perkins hits the wall, he hits it hard.
New Guy replied on August 17, 2008 at 2:58:12 pm
cheaptoy replied on August 17, 2008 at 3:00:08 pm
I only found a car hitting a wall. but you sir, have gone above and beyond.
New Guy replied on August 17, 2008 at 3:03:46 pm
Here it is .005 seconds later:
brianS replied on August 17, 2008 at 3:49:06 pm
apparently, the Overthruster wasn't working.
Rhubarb_Runner replied on August 17, 2008 at 3:52:04 pm
"It's a bad design..."
E-6 replied on August 17, 2008 at 3:05:19 pm
Stick that one in the vault.
cowdisciple replied on August 17, 2008 at 3:01:10 pm
Dingers for all!
Rhubarb_Runner replied on August 17, 2008 at 3:01:37 pm
Justin go BOOM!
Been a while, Dudley
New Guy replied on August 17, 2008 at 3:06:31 pm
Kubel is on FIYAH!
E-6 replied on August 17, 2008 at 3:06:40 pm
We're gonna need more half-and-half.
Beau replied on August 17, 2008 at 3:25:12 pm
We're gonna need more whiskey
socaltwinsfan replied on August 17, 2008 at 3:34:22 pm
In late & close situations, the Mariners have a .645 OPS. When the margin is greater than four runs, the Mariners have a .757 OPS. The Mariners seem to enjoy hitting when they know the pitcher is focused on just throwing strikes because he has a big lead.
E-6 replied on August 17, 2008 at 3:35:27 pm
Even a half-ass throw nails LNP there.
E-6 replied on August 17, 2008 at 3:38:33 pm
Productive outs. Productive outs.
Rhubarb_Runner replied on August 17, 2008 at 3:39:29 pm
UNO!
socaltwinsfan replied on August 17, 2008 at 3:39:33 pm
Did Delmon stop to tie his shoes? How do you not beat out a double play when they drop the ball at second?
SBG replied on August 17, 2008 at 3:41:28 pm
That's just inexcusable. I think he needs a day off to rest up because he's obviously too tired to run hard.
cheaptoy replied on August 17, 2008 at 3:43:14 pm
That's as big a mystery as how one doesn't take a pitch against Miguel F'in Batista.
Rhubarb_Runner replied on August 17, 2008 at 3:46:15 pm
Every Twins batter has a walk today, except Delmon and Kubel. Kubes has 4 hits in 4 AB; what's Delmon's excuse (he asks, knowingly)?
cheaptoy replied on August 17, 2008 at 3:48:01 pm
Gardy, this is now a good time to live up to your promise of 8th inning use of Nathan. (if he's ready)
brianS replied on August 17, 2008 at 3:48:08 pm
Cheese fondue, apparently.
Rhubarb_Runner replied on August 17, 2008 at 3:50:21 pm
How many times does Gardy need to roll Guerrier out there to check and see if his arm is still dead?
E-6 replied on August 17, 2008 at 3:50:15 pm
Man, our bullpen is thinner than Nicole Richie.
cheaptoy replied on August 17, 2008 at 3:54:25 pm
That's quite the contradiction with both Boof and Reyes pitching today.
E-6 replied on August 17, 2008 at 3:57:53 pm
A figure of speech, my good man. A stick figure.
Fat lot of good they did.
brianS replied on August 17, 2008 at 3:56:34 pm
+three times (a lady)
cheaptoy replied on August 17, 2008 at 3:55:49 pm
Huh, apparently there are other beach volleyball teams.
I thought it was just Treanor-Walsh and two members of the Washington Generals wearing different colors each match.
socaltwinsfan replied on August 17, 2008 at 3:58:35 pm
The Mariners have hit one ball with any authority in this inning and yet they have the tying and go-ahead runs on base. C'mon, Joe!
Beau replied on August 17, 2008 at 3:58:40 pm
Even if we make the playoffs, we don't have a shot with this bullpen. This is embarrassing
socaltwinsfan replied on August 17, 2008 at 4:03:10 pm
All we need is 7 innings from the starters and two innings from Joe in the playoffs, right? Sounds good in theory, anyways. It's not like the Twins went all that far with great bullpens before.
Beau replied on August 17, 2008 at 4:10:37 pm
Touché
GreekHouse replied on August 17, 2008 at 4:02:02 pm
At least we still have one good pitcher in the pen. Whew.
E-6 replied on August 17, 2008 at 4:02:08 pm
Bobby Korecky call your travel agent.
Rhubarb_Runner replied on August 17, 2008 at 4:03:00 pm
Huh, how about that? Nathan is pretty good. Wonder if Gardy noticed.
cheaptoy replied on August 17, 2008 at 4:05:54 pm
I noticed
E-6 replied on August 17, 2008 at 4:05:20 pm
My Yiddish is a little rusty, but I'm pretty sure a Putz is a... Never mind.
greenmachine replied on August 17, 2008 at 4:06:22 pm
thank you joe!!!
Worth every million.
brianS replied on August 17, 2008 at 4:08:40 pm
mebbe a little insurance putz here??
Beau replied on August 17, 2008 at 4:11:18 pm
What is it with Everett and four-pitch walks?
Beau replied on August 17, 2008 at 4:12:05 pm
I <3 Span (never thought I'd say that)
cheaptoy replied on August 17, 2008 at 4:15:08 pm
It almost seems like everyone owes him some what of an apology. Unless he worked super hard because of the doubt, then we should probably all keep hating on him to keep that fire going.
GreekHouse replied on August 17, 2008 at 4:12:24 pm
Holy crap, how did Span get to 2nd on that?
Rhubarb_Runner replied on August 17, 2008 at 4:15:06 pm
Okay, MLB Gameday video archives are so stingy nowdays that Justin's HR doesn't qualify for a video highlight?! What's up with that?
cheaptoy replied on August 17, 2008 at 4:16:32 pm
I'm pretty sure that Gameday hates the Twins.
meat replied on August 17, 2008 at 4:16:25 pm
hi everybody!
E-6 replied on August 17, 2008 at 4:18:47 pm
I hope you brought potables, meat.
meat replied on August 17, 2008 at 4:21:41 pm
potent potables?
indeed I did.
E-6 replied on August 17, 2008 at 4:25:00 pm
potent potables?
Is there any other kind?
brianS replied on August 17, 2008 at 4:26:05 pm
OMG. Nice selection. Deserving of a 1-2-3 inning, however.
meat replied on August 17, 2008 at 4:30:41 pm
yeah, I posted that b4 the start of nathan- I'll have to scale it back to Highlife the way this inning is going.
meat replied on August 17, 2008 at 4:18:51 pm
paging Mr. Johns.
meat replied on August 17, 2008 at 4:20:01 pm
or maybe he doesn't clean up till tomorrow.
brianS replied on August 17, 2008 at 4:21:10 pm
When did we pick Eddie Guardado back up?
meat replied on August 17, 2008 at 4:27:33 pm
When did we pick Eddie Guardado back up?
I don't know. I guess I forgot how my heart felt after Everyday pitched, now I remember, worn out.
meat replied on August 17, 2008 at 4:24:20 pm
kid has alligator blood.
meat replied on August 17, 2008 at 4:29:01 pm
GoGO!
meat replied on August 17, 2008 at 4:32:22 pm
shit, with Ichiro up, I don't find this awesome at all bert.
Beau replied on August 17, 2008 at 4:32:42 pm
And Perkins has his 10th win!