SBG Nation Provides Your Daily Source for Half-Baked Crap

Game 134: Minnesota at Oakland

Posted by SBG on Thursday, August 28th, 2008 at 8:00 pm

The Twins continue the West Coast portion of their monster road trip with the first of four games in Oakland tonight. Game time is 9:05 PM CDT time. The pitching matchup is Nick Blackburn v. Dana Eveland.

The Athletics are one of the original eight American League teams and have won nine World Championships, second only (among AL teams) to the Yankees' 26 titles (St. Louis has 10 championships). They've won four of those titles in Oakland -- and five more in Philadelphia, all before 1930. They also spent several years in Kansas City, making the A's the only A.L. team to play more than one season in three different cities.

The Philadelphia Athletics were managed for their first 50 years of existence by Connie Mack, who also had an ownership stake in the club (he became the sole owner of the club in 1936). Mack led the A's to World Series championships in 1910, '11, and '13, sold off his team and spent seven consecutive seasons in last place. Eventually, he built another winner that won the American League in 1929, '30, and '31, with the first two of those seasons also including World Championships. It is notable that by winning those three consecutive pennants, his teams were a combined 47 1/2 games better than the Babe Ruth-led Yankees. After that run, the A's fell into a long period of decline and by 1950, Mack's last year as manager (he was 87 at the time), the A's had been last in the American League 10 times in 16 years. Mack holds several managerial records that will certainly never be topped -- 50 years as the manager of one club, 3731 wins (including 2+ years as a player/manager of the Pittsburgh Pirates), and the biggie -- 3948 losses. Those first two records are pretty much insurmountable, but that last one, whoa. I can't imagine anyone getting anywhere close to that. As of this writing, Tony LaRussa has 2130 losses (to go along with 2449 wins). So, LaRussa is still almost 1300 wins away, but over 1800 losses away. (Tony, by the way, has a chance for the second most wins, ever, which is John McGraw's 2763 wins.) Of course, LaRussa also managed the A's to a World Series title in 1989.

Mack owned the A's until they moved to Kansas City in 1955 and became an unofficial farm club for the New York Yankees. Mack had sold the team to Arnold Johnson, a business partner of the principal owner of the Yankees, who moved the team to Kansas City and engaged in a series of trades with the Yankees that almost always favored the Bronx Bombers. The link I provided above includes the grisly details. Just another reason to hate the Yankees. I'm sure it was sad for old timers who remembered the A's getting the best of some of Ruth's teams being turned into a farm club for the big bad Yankees.

Fortunately, Charles O. Finley bought the A's from Johnson's estate before the 1961 season and brought some respectability to the franchise, at least in one area. He refused to make deals with the Yankees and started to develop some young talent. However, Finley began shopping the A's all over the place and he had a hands on style, serving as the de facto general manager of the club for several years. He eventually moved the club to Oakland. The A's of the early 1970s were a dynasty with three consecutive World Series Championships, but Finley was a side show. He was seemingly always in the spotlight, either by feuding with players or by trying a number of gimmicks. He had his World Championship Club playing in softball uniforms -- and the players were motivated by their hatred for Finley. He tried to move the club to New Orleans. His wikipedia entry is worth a read.

Of course, the A's of the late 1980s and early 1990s were another mini dynasty, led by the likes of Jose Canseco, Dave Stewart, Mark McGwire, Rickey Henderson, Dave Henderson, and Dennis Eckersley. They won three consecutive pennants, but just one World Series, that being the earthquake interrupted affair with their San Francisco neighbors. Of course, the A's of today are probably best personified by GM Billy Beane, who has been able to put several competitive clubs on the field while operating on a comparatively paltry budget.

I've never been an A's fan, but I think that they've got a pretty interesting history.

Enjoy tonight's game.

Tags: , ,

This entry was posted by SBG on Thursday, August 28th, 2008 at 8:00 pm and is filed under 2008 Twins Game Logs. It is one of 2388 entries by the author. Feel free to write a letter to the editor if you are a registered SBG Nation Citizen. If you are not a Citizen, you can register here.

157 LTEs »

davidwatts
davidwatts replied on August 28th, 2008 at 8:19 pm

I loved those 1970's era A's uniforms


E-6
E-6 replied on August 28th, 2008 at 8:52 pm

What a dreadful "shoop" on McKinney's card. Yikes...

 
 
twayn
twayn replied on August 28th, 2008 at 8:34 pm

70's A's had style, for sure.

rollie

E-6
E-6 replied on August 28th, 2008 at 8:50 pm

+1 handlebar--or, er, 2 fingers.

I seem to recall that team owner Charley O. Finley paid bonuses to players who wore a mustache.

SBG
SBG replied on August 28th, 2008 at 8:54 pm

That is correct.

E-6
E-6 replied on August 28th, 2008 at 8:56 pm

Well, my work here is done. :)

 
E-6
E-6 replied on August 28th, 2008 at 9:04 pm

By the by, nice intro, Stick.

I actually liked those 70's era A's squads. Vida Blue, Blue Moon Odom, Campy Campenaris, Catfish Hunter, Rollie Fingers, Reggie Jackson, Joe Rudi...

They had star power.

 
 
 
 
Big Mak
Big Mak replied on August 28th, 2008 at 8:41 pm

I would have bet money that someone would have mentioned the Twins attaining SBG's 'Satisfactory Win Total' of 75 in the last series, but I can't seem to find it anywhere. It took us a couple extra games, but from here on out it's all gravy!

 
greenmachine
greenmachine replied on August 28th, 2008 at 8:57 pm

I hope E-mail Brown is in the lineup today! As an information technology worker, it's great to have a role model in MLB.

E-6
E-6 replied on August 28th, 2008 at 9:13 pm

And as someone who's hungry (and has toiled in the hospitality industry), I hope it's A-meal.

 
 
punmanbowler
punmanbowler replied on August 28th, 2008 at 9:05 pm

SBG, love the history lesson. You should do it with other teams too.

 
FirstTimeLongTime
FirstTimeLongTime replied on August 28th, 2008 at 9:14 pm

I think that that game log should just replace the A's wiki page.

greenmachine
greenmachine replied on August 28th, 2008 at 9:18 pm

You're in luck, sir, you are empowered to make that very edit this moment! I'd do it myself but I'm on a static IP address.

FirstTimeLongTime
FirstTimeLongTime replied on August 28th, 2008 at 9:23 pm

I'll let SBG handle that. Wouldn't want to be accused of plagiarism.

E-6
E-6 replied on August 28th, 2008 at 9:26 pm

Dude's a Biden?

FirstTimeLongTime
FirstTimeLongTime replied on August 28th, 2008 at 9:28 pm

Where's Geoff? I need some Libertarian help around here.

 
greenmachine
greenmachine replied on August 28th, 2008 at 9:35 pm

Obama / Biden
Dudebama Bin Abiden

Coincidence???????

FirstTimeLongTime
FirstTimeLongTime replied on August 28th, 2008 at 9:39 pm

-1 conservative humor.

(LTEs wont nest below this level)
 
 
 
 
 
 
E-6
E-6 replied on August 28th, 2008 at 9:20 pm

2 RNBIs for the Mountie. ;)

FirstTimeLongTime
FirstTimeLongTime replied on August 28th, 2008 at 9:27 pm

Morneau is soooooooo un-clutch.....

 
 
punmanbowler
punmanbowler replied on August 28th, 2008 at 9:23 pm

Ya know, it felt real dirty to be cheering for the Yankees this week.

 
FirstTimeLongTime
FirstTimeLongTime replied on August 28th, 2008 at 9:30 pm

Phil Miller with a nice write up about instant replay today

 
E-6
E-6 replied on August 28th, 2008 at 9:33 pm

One of the problems with these West Coast games is the absence of New Britain Bo.

(Howdy, pally!)

 
nibbish
nibbish replied on August 28th, 2008 at 9:35 pm

UNO!

FirstTimeLongTime
FirstTimeLongTime replied on August 28th, 2008 at 9:37 pm

I forgot about Uno's. Thank you.

nibbish
nibbish replied on August 28th, 2008 at 9:38 pm

Always here to help.

smalls
smalls replied on August 28th, 2008 at 9:43 pm

Delmon's been much better about one pitch outs since the adoption of the UNO! rule. Is it too much to claim some small portion of responsibility?

 
 
 
Kris
Kris replied on August 28th, 2008 at 9:44 pm

 
 
greenmachine
greenmachine replied on August 28th, 2008 at 9:43 pm

Blackburn threw two balls that inning.

smalls
smalls replied on August 28th, 2008 at 9:45 pm

Blackburns not been shy about throwing strikes lately, but in his last start (and alot here tonight) he's run alot of 2-strike counts without being able to get the punchout.

socaltwinsfan
socaltwinsfan replied on August 28th, 2008 at 9:59 pm

It seems to me lately that he gets ahead of the hitters and then starts to nibble too much instead of going after the hitters.

 
 
 
smalls
smalls replied on August 28th, 2008 at 9:44 pm

black- BURN!

Kris
Kris replied on August 28th, 2008 at 9:45 pm

Aagh, my eyes!

E-6
E-6 replied on August 28th, 2008 at 9:53 pm

I liked it better when Oakland was That 70's Show. :)

 
 
 
FirstTimeLongTime
FirstTimeLongTime replied on August 28th, 2008 at 9:48 pm

Glad to see that you saved that.

 
FirstTimeLongTime
FirstTimeLongTime replied on August 28th, 2008 at 9:49 pm

Am I the only person who expects Span to have a hit during every at bat at this point?

E-6
E-6 replied on August 28th, 2008 at 9:56 pm

You--and his mom...

greenmachine
greenmachine replied on August 28th, 2008 at 9:59 pm

ZING - got 'im!

E-6
E-6 replied on August 28th, 2008 at 10:02 pm

When it's placed on a tee, I swing. I often miss.

 
 
 
Rhubarb_Runner
Rhubarb_Runner replied on August 28th, 2008 at 9:56 pm

He's gonna earn the "Denards" img before this game is through...

 
 
socaltwinsfan
socaltwinsfan replied on August 28th, 2008 at 9:57 pm

Twins have found three different ways to reach first base so far (error, single, walk). Now all they need to run the gamut is a hbp, fielder's choice, K-wild pitch, K-passed ball, and catcher's interference. Did I miss anything?

greenmachine
greenmachine replied on August 28th, 2008 at 9:59 pm

Act of God.

 
 
FirstTimeLongTime
FirstTimeLongTime replied on August 28th, 2008 at 9:59 pm

Is anyone interested in doing a WGOM fantasy football league?

davidwatts
davidwatts replied on August 28th, 2008 at 10:01 pm

I would be

FirstTimeLongTime
FirstTimeLongTime replied on August 28th, 2008 at 10:03 pm

8 spots left.

Geoff
Geoff replied on August 28th, 2008 at 10:17 pm

count me in. Ive posted links to an NCAA and NFL pickem leagues - but if someone else is willing to commish a full fantasy league - Im there.

FirstTimeLongTime
FirstTimeLongTime replied on August 28th, 2008 at 10:20 pm

If it is alright with SBG I will post a headline about it tomorrow. I will be more than happy to be the commish. As of now we have Watts, Geoff and myself. If nothing changes this evening we will take the first seven people tomorrow.

nibbish
nibbish replied on August 28th, 2008 at 10:22 pm

Yeah, I'd enjoy that.

(LTEs wont nest below this level)
FirstTimeLongTime
FirstTimeLongTime replied on August 28th, 2008 at 10:26 pm

ESPN or Yahoo?

 
 
SBG
SBG replied on August 28th, 2008 at 10:30 pm

Go ahead. I don't think I can participate, but you can do it.

(LTEs wont nest below this level)
FirstTimeLongTime
FirstTimeLongTime replied on August 28th, 2008 at 10:32 pm

Fair enough. I think that I will just address it in CoC tomorrow. We only need 5 more citizens.

 
Big Mak
Big Mak replied on August 28th, 2008 at 10:37 pm

make it four, I'll do it.

 
 
 
 
 
 
socaltwinsfan
socaltwinsfan replied on August 28th, 2008 at 10:25 pm

I'll do it.

 
UncleWalt
UncleWalt replied on August 28th, 2008 at 11:02 pm

As a consistent lurker on this site, I'm interested in both a fantasy football league and contributing with the loss of ubelmann, which, you all should know, is felt beyond the fantastic regulars at this site, but also by serial lurkers like myself.

 
 
Rhubarb_Runner
Rhubarb_Runner replied on August 28th, 2008 at 10:00 pm

gotta pack for Dallas and get to bed...looks like Blackie's doing fine tonight; someone get our offense to show up soon, huh guys?

FirstTimeLongTime
FirstTimeLongTime replied on August 28th, 2008 at 10:01 pm

I'll see what I can do.

brianS
brianS replied on August 28th, 2008 at 10:04 pm

me too. I claim the Justin Time double.

FirstTimeLongTime
FirstTimeLongTime replied on August 28th, 2008 at 10:06 pm

I will take the upcoming Harris dinger.

 
 
 
 
Rhubarb_Runner
Rhubarb_Runner replied on August 28th, 2008 at 10:02 pm

fielder's choice

 
davidwatts
davidwatts replied on August 28th, 2008 at 10:03 pm

all right Justin

 
greenmachine
greenmachine replied on August 28th, 2008 at 10:06 pm

Any way we can get Ruiz v. Cust no disqualifications/falls count anywhere/rage in the cage match? In fact, I'd like to see an all-DH pro wrestling league in the offseason generally.

Maybe A's suffer multiple injuries to their catchers, and Cust is the emergency backup. Ruiz tags up on a deep fly, and we're off to the races ...

 
socaltwinsfan
socaltwinsfan replied on August 28th, 2008 at 10:07 pm

Wow. Cristian Guzman hit for the cycle tonight.

SBG
SBG replied on August 28th, 2008 at 10:11 pm

I'm a step slow.

 
 
brianS
brianS replied on August 28th, 2008 at 10:08 pm

love that base clogging.

 
FirstTimeLongTime
FirstTimeLongTime replied on August 28th, 2008 at 10:10 pm

I will see that on ESPN when getting ready for work tomorrow morning.

 
SBG
SBG replied on August 28th, 2008 at 10:10 pm

Cristian Guzman hit for the cycle tonight.

brianS
brianS replied on August 28th, 2008 at 10:11 pm

that is soooo threee minutes ago, Boss.

FirstTimeLongTime
FirstTimeLongTime replied on August 28th, 2008 at 10:13 pm

Hey Boss- we can't have a WGOM fantasy league if you are not involved. Watts and I need you!

SBG
SBG replied on August 28th, 2008 at 10:17 pm

Man, I pride myself in not paying attention to the NFL! I'd have to be a sacrificial lamb.

FirstTimeLongTime
FirstTimeLongTime replied on August 28th, 2008 at 10:18 pm

Perfect!

 
Geoff
Geoff replied on August 28th, 2008 at 10:19 pm

Come on SBG, assimilate yourself to the machine that is the NFL.......

 
E-6
E-6 replied on August 28th, 2008 at 10:21 pm

Just say no, SBG! One of the beautiful things about this site is the distinct lack of "fantasy." Especially of the NFL variety.

brianS
brianS replied on August 28th, 2008 at 11:13 pm

You were saying, E-6?

Now, if ubelmann would just come back and give us a li'l doom and gloom

(LTEs wont nest below this level)
 
 
 
 
 
 
Geoff
Geoff replied on August 28th, 2008 at 10:15 pm

evening all

FirstTimeLongTime
FirstTimeLongTime replied on August 28th, 2008 at 10:17 pm

I could have used you earlier Geoff, where were you?

Geoff
Geoff replied on August 28th, 2008 at 10:18 pm

I waited until Oakland scored to show up so I can show my mastery in aiding the twins to come back and take the lead.

 
 
greenmachine
greenmachine replied on August 28th, 2008 at 10:19 pm

Hey Geoff - thanks for the golf offer, but realistically I gotta decline. I'll only be there for 6 days and I don't expect much any off time.

Geoff
Geoff replied on August 28th, 2008 at 10:24 pm

We will just have to get you back out to Utah under better circumstances then.