Cup of Coffee — December 2, 2008
December 2nd, 2008 by brianS
We need a quick pot of Dunkin Donuts House Blend to balance the 'hoof on the palate.
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Dread Pirate Will Young replied on December 2, 2008 at 10:14:07 am
Where's there a Dunkin Donuts around here?
E-6 replied on December 2, 2008 at 12:24:33 pm
Brooklyn
Center.cheaptoy replied on December 2, 2008 at 6:11:49 pm
Dunkin Donuts is about the only thing that makes me glad I live near Illinois.
meat replied on December 2, 2008 at 10:21:01 am
Cheaptoy and NBB (and anyone else who may brew in their kitchen): have either of you got a recipe for a belgian IPA? I had an idea last night to brew a belgian, then I thought about going back to an IPA, then I said to myself 'self, why not brew a belgian ipa...'
With that in mind, and a google search, I came up empty handed on recipe ideas- so here is the question I am left with, do I brew a belgian tripple recipe and hop the snot out of it, or do I brew an American PA and use belgian yeast? Any ideas on hop / malt combinations would be helpful.
E-6 replied on December 2, 2008 at 12:27:08 pm
While all you brewmasters are discussing this, someone (Big Mak?) was looking for advice on home-brew kits as a gift idea. Help a brother out.
meat replied on December 2, 2008 at 2:18:06 pm
Help a brother out.
Okay then, I will. Brewing is either as cheap a hobby as you want it to be, or the most expensive hobby you can imagine.
A good starter kit looks like this, although I would suggest The Complete Joy of Home Brewing as a good book to read through, can be found at the library or from Amazon for a few bucks.
The carboy upgrade is just the next step up in cost. There is a huge debate over fermenting in glass vs. plastic buckets, personally, I don't find much difference. Although, with the glass carboy you get to see how cool fermenting beer looks, I guess that's some sort of bonus.
What you're missing from the kit is a brew kettle (stainless steel, stock pot will work fine (aluminum will impart a metallic flavor to the beer)), big spoon or tongs (BBQ tongs are great), sanitizer, glass cleaner, an auto siphon (very helpful, and cheep- like 8 bucks-), beer thief (makes sampling the fermenting wort easier, much easier), carboy brush, and the ingredient kit.
The next step up would be buying a wort chiller, O2 stone, fridge for lagering...... you get the point.
If the person likes to cook, enjoys a little chemistry, and likes beer they probably will enjoy the sh!t out of brewing, let them know that a bad batch happens to all of us, and the cleanliness is next to godliness.
ps you can find better deals on most of this stuff with cheaper shipping at northern brewer and morebeer.com. Plus, northern brewer is a MN company and the guys who run the shop are extremely helpful, even over the phone.
brianS replied on December 2, 2008 at 3:40:26 pm
There is a huge debate over fermenting in glass vs. plastic buckets,
I will note here that my local Brew-on-Premises operation ferments in plastic buckets. Much cheaper, I suppose, and easier to handle. Our products always tasted great.
cheaptoy replied on December 2, 2008 at 6:15:22 pm
Also, way safer what with the weight of 5 gallons of liquid and the breakableness of glass. I've never dropped one, but I still worry about it enough that I use a piece of old carpet to set the carboy down in my basement.
Big Mak replied on December 2, 2008 at 6:16:26 pm
Thanks for the info, meat (and E-6 for the nudge), I'll have to look all this over when I get home tonight.
If the person likes to cook, enjoys a little chemistry, and likes beer they probably will enjoy the sh!t out of brewing
That sounds like my dad, so hopefully this goes over well.
E-6 replied on December 2, 2008 at 6:47:43 pm
Happy to help, pally. Ol' meat did the heavy lifting.
hop the snot out of it...
This really needs to be a bumper sticker.
meat replied on December 2, 2008 at 9:45:28 pm
Basically, brewing comes down to the ingredients you use - shit in = shit out, but sometimes good shit in = shit out...
My advice, have your dad brew a brown, shoot for a newcastle or something close, as his first brew. Brown is an extremely forgiving style, as in the malt extract was a little scalded on the bottom of the brew kettle, so what, a brown is supposed to have some 'carmel' flavor, right? Right?
And brown beer is almost universally loved, what with it's malty deliciousness and all.
good luck, happy hunting, and when it all comes down to it, remember, brewing beer is really just putting a lot of sugar, water and yeast into a plastic bucket for a couple of weeks.
cheaptoy replied on December 2, 2008 at 6:24:58 pm
I think I would recommend making an IPA using a Belgian yeast strain. I made a Belgian Pale back in August and used White Labs WLP550 yeast. It worked pretty good. I'm not sure how much extract to use, but along with my base malts, I used a little 40L Crystal malt, 1/2 lb of Caramunich malt, and 1/2 lb of Vienna malt. Added 1/2 lb of candi sugar to that, and I think it would have tasted pretty damn good if I hadn't gotten it in my head to use cloves and seeds of paradise as well. Ah well, live and learn.
I used 1 oz of Pearle hops at 60 minutes, 1/2 oz of Saaz at 10 minutes and the other half at 2 minutes. I think if I could do this batch again, I would definitely use either one more oz of Pearle or a hop with a little more bittering power (the Pearle I used was 8% alpha acids), maybe a Cenntenial or a Galena (which I used in my dry hopped pale to what , so far, is tasting pretty good). The sweetness plus the spices definitely needed some more hoppiness to balance it out. I do still recommend the Saaz for flavor, though, its always a good choice.
meat replied on December 2, 2008 at 9:35:56 pm
This is a recipe that interests me a bit, I think that I'll substitute some saaz for the cascade, and use the wyeast belgian abby II instead. any ideas?
1# CaraPils
0.5# Wheat
0.25# Munich
9.9# light LME
1 oz Chinook (60 min)
1.5# light Candi sugar (15 min)
1 oz Amarillo (10 min)
2 oz Cascade (end of boil)
Wyeast 3724
2 oz Cascade (dry-hop)
1 oz Amarillo (dry-hop)
cheaptoy replied on December 3, 2008 at 5:45:47 am
I think you won't have much problem with your IBU's. If it were me, I would probably swap the Cascade and Amarillo around, and then replace the Amarillo with the Saaz, if you wanted to use them. But then, I really love Cascade hops and think they're one of the better flavor additions around. I wasn't planning on using them in my recent pale ale, because I thought they were still out. I was ecstatic to find them again.
New Britain Bo replied on December 2, 2008 at 7:46:13 pm
Belgian IPA. Heh.
Can't help with the hoppage, but for labels you could go with:
Wallooner Sepoy 2000.
Rikki-Tikki-Tavi.
Delhiirium Tremens.
Shah Duvel.
Mannekin Pith.
E-6 replied on December 2, 2008 at 8:14:44 pm
Reid Brignac
DK replied on December 2, 2008 at 10:44:47 pm
+1 MV-J-Bart replacement (?)
meat replied on December 2, 2008 at 9:27:08 pm
Thanks for the label advice, If it's any good I think I'll take the Mannekin Pith rec. heh.
Jeff A replied on December 2, 2008 at 12:32:33 pm
There were no games in the Venezuelan League yesterday.
SBG replied on December 2, 2008 at 2:05:13 pm
Randy Wittman's future is looking dark. While he complains about the team not following the game plan, the best GM in all of sport has been following the club on the road. How long until Wittman is a former head coach?
davidwatts replied on December 2, 2008 at 3:13:58 pm
please let it be soon
freealonzo replied on December 2, 2008 at 3:55:16 pm
Arrgghh. I was going to respond but what's the point? Fire Wittman, sure. I never thought he was a great coach anyway but there is so much wrong with this organization it's like does it matter? God sometimes I wish a meteor would crash into the Target Center, wiping away every last vestige of this group and the NBA either just erases the team or allows a new group to start over from zero.
SBG replied on December 2, 2008 at 4:13:57 pm
They are pretty much at zero right now. Worse than that, they are just good enough to avoid getting a premium position in the lottery (then again, they got the third pick last year, picked the second best player in the draft -- and traded him away for a guy who will be a decent pro, but also plays the exact same position as their best player). Bad. Bad. Bad.
freealonzo replied on December 2, 2008 at 9:17:12 pm
I mean ZERO. New owner, new GM, new name, new players, new uni's, new arena...
Rhubarb_Runner replied on December 2, 2008 at 9:47:07 pm
I like the name and uni, but they've been, uh, soiled now.
SBG replied on December 2, 2008 at 4:19:09 pm
If you have paid any attention to the Vikings for more than, say, two weeks, this news should not surprise you.
cheaptoy replied on December 2, 2008 at 6:32:57 pm
It doesn't surprise me, but still definitely pisses me off.
I tried to quit the NFL this weekend, right after the Benny Sapp personal foul, but when I think I'm out, they keep pulling me back.
FirstTimeLongTime replied on December 2, 2008 at 5:13:03 pm
I know there is not a huge following of rumor mongers on this site, but this rumor, to me, is absolutely insane, right?
brianS replied on December 2, 2008 at 5:44:26 pm
If they threw in Garza along with the MVP, I'd give _elmon back
Beau replied on December 2, 2008 at 6:23:03 pm
If I'm the Rays I would certainly shop one of the most overrated players last year and hope somebody bites.
FirstTimeLongTime replied on December 2, 2008 at 6:40:12 pm
And in one more bit or rumor news, it is being reported that Casey Blake's agent is looking for 3 years at $20 million! Ha!
ubelmann replied on December 2, 2008 at 10:17:20 pm
The Dodgers paid Juan Freaking Pierre $44M over 5 years just a couple of seasons ago. The D-Backs gave Eric Byrnes $30M over 3 years. Blake is coming off of a $6M, 1-year deal, so the agent is pushing for multiple years and the typical baseball salary inflation. It would also be pretty unlikely for a guy to take a reduction in his annual salary unless he disappointed, and Blake had the 3rd-best OPS+ of his career last year. $20M/3yr is hardly laughable--Blake might not get it, but I sure wouldn't laugh at it.
I'm really against acquiring Blake because I think he's an exceptionally poor fit for a number of reasons, but say that there's a price that would make sense for the Twins. Let's see, they paid $6M/2yr for Lamb last year--Lamb has a lower career OPS than Blake, but was also a couple of years younger. Say that the Twins felt like they could go $10M/2yr for Blake, or maybe $12M/2yr to keep Blake from having to take a pay reduction.
Whatever that price turns out to be--somewhere in the $5-6M/year range--why shouldn't we think that the Dodgers can add an extra year or an extra few million to that offer? They have a $120M payroll, and when you figure that you have to spend about $20M to field a minimal team, the Dodgers outspent the Twins in marginal payroll $95M to $30M. So the Dodgers have about 3 times as much money to spend on additions to the team beyond a bare minimum Florida Marlins-style setup. I see no reason why they shouldn't be able to blow the Twins out of the water on Casey Blake if they want.
Comparatively, the Twins' depth at 3B dwarfs their depth at SS. Blake should just not be any kind of priority whatsoever. I don't think there's a whole lot that Bill Smith can do to improve the roster at this point. He doesn't have much money to work with and there's not a huge roster imbalance for him to fix. They need to figure out who their shortstop is going to be next year, they need to make sure that that answer is not Brendan Harris, and they need to try to use the free talent channels (Rule 5 draft, waivers, minor league free agents) to round out the bullpen and their bench depth. Past that, I really don't see them doing anything to significantly improve the team. They might be able to shuffle it around a bit, but there's no obvious Pierzynski/Mauer or Bowyer/Good Bullpen logjam for them to address. I know people want to look at the outfield as a logjam, but I can't see them getting a good deal for Gomez, Delmon, or Span, Cuddyer won't even be considered as a trading chip, and I don't think anyone really wants to trade away one of our two power threats from last season. I see this turning into a boring offseason or a bad offseason.
DK replied on December 2, 2008 at 7:51:45 pm
Yeah, unless for some reason they really think Reid Brignac is ready to pull a Denard in the majors.
ubelmann replied on December 2, 2008 at 10:23:54 pm
I know there is not a huge following of rumor mongers on this site, but this rumor, to me, is absolutely insane, right?
To me, the insane thing would be to think that the Rays would come back to the Twins after last season and tell them, "you know what we were missing--Delmon Young. He's a winner and could really have put us over the top against the Phillies." The Bartlett-as-MVP thing seems to be pushed by the local media and not so much by the front office. Getting Bartlett was important in that they finally came up with a good defensive alignment, and I think the Rays realize that. I don't think it's out of the question that they would move him if the right deal came along--especially since Bartlett's best years are probably behind him (stolen in part by Juan Castro) and his defensive numbers have slipped the last couple of years. I am kind of skeptical that they would be actively shopping him, though.
FirstTimeLongTime replied on December 2, 2008 at 6:35:58 pm
It looks like the ChiSox have dealt Javy to the Braves, per ESPN
davidwatts replied on December 2, 2008 at 8:32:38 pm
the Sox hosed the Braves on that deal
DK replied on December 2, 2008 at 8:59:59 pm
I don't know, dw, Javy's a better pitcher than his rep. It sounds like the deal is for Lillibridge (who seems pretty Punto-esque), a spare part or two, and Tyler Flowers (and not Jo-Jo). Flowers is a giant catcher who's carried a big stick through high-A so far but may not stick behind the dish.
ubelmann replied on December 2, 2008 at 10:35:05 pm
I think that's a pretty good assessment. In his minor league career, Flowers has over 50% of his games at positions other than catcher. He's also a little on the old side to get too excited about his hitting. At his age, Morneau, for instance, was already being shuttled between AAA and MLB and Flowers still hasn't made it to AA. My guess is that Flowers figures to be something like Paul Konerko, maybe a little better, maybe a little worse.
It does look like the White Sox bought low on Jo-Jo Reyes. They probably figure that Don Cooper can get him to throw strikes and he can go back to his minor league performance--essentially hoping for a Gavin Floyd, pt. 2.
DK replied on December 2, 2008 at 10:42:01 pm
I don't think the Sox got Reyes, though. At least, Dave O'Brien didn't think so earlier tonight. It sounds like Flowers, Lillibridge, and two rookie-leaguers. I guess we'll find out tomorrow.
ubelmann replied on December 2, 2008 at 10:51:57 pm
Huh, I don't know O'Brien, so I can't vouch for his cred vs. espn's, but Flowers, Lillibridge, and two afterthoughts sounds about right to me. Vazquez is better than his ERA last year, but he's also on the wrong side of 30 and expensive ($23M/2yr). And Boon Logan isn't anything special. It does make me wonder what KW is planning on doing with payroll he's been shedding.
DK replied on December 2, 2008 at 10:55:44 pm
How's Rosenthal's cred? He changed his article to that composition as well.
ubelmann replied on December 3, 2008 at 2:25:21 am
Rosenthal pretty much has more credibility than anyone out there, in my mind. He gets stuff wrong sometimes, but if that's what he has now, that's probably how it will go down. Without additional moves, this certainly seems to make the White Sox weaker in the short term. And without working it out, I'd say that it's probably a pretty even trade on the whole. The White Sox get potential and the Braves get a pretty known quantity.
zooomx replied on December 2, 2008 at 10:36:07 pm
Just got home after a 3 day trip to
the sports mecca of the MidwestMinneapolis. Watched the Vikes bury the Bears on Sunday night. We tailgated. The porta-potties were filled to overflowing, before the game even started. Fun game. WhenFurotteFeroteFuerawtGus threw the 99 yard strike to Bernard it was the loudest I have heard the dome since 1998.Went to the Wild game last night. It was an ugly game. Our defense sucked. The only true entertainment was my buddy getting grilled by a couple of cougars, wondering about whether or not he does/would shave the parts of him where us fellas typically don't shave. Two years ago, my same friend was cornered in an elevator at Excel by some lady who was trying to pawn off her daughter on him. It tends to be uncomfortable for him, but it is great fun for the rest of us to witness.
Just got home a while ago and Mrs. zooomx and I sample a recent wine club purchase from August Briggs. brianS, or anyone else, if you get a chance, check them out. Their wines are incredible, and their hospitality is very warm and friendly. The wine we had tonight was their 2006 Sonoma Valley Cab. It was awesome!