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		<title>By: AMR</title>
		<link>http://stickandballguy.com/blog/2008/12/04/more-clocks-and-a-tough-loss/#comment-171159</link>
		<dc:creator>AMR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 13:10:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sure that the kids have comfort with :
1) Adults responsibly drinking - I let my kids smell the beer or wine.  H grabs my beer often for a sniff.  I think they&#039;ve both had tastes, but neither will take me up on taste offers any more.  I do not offer them tastes of my sodas though, I figure they&#039;re too likely to like that and be offered by other grown-ups in the future. 

2) Killing animals for food.  If they know that cute cows, pigs, and deer are also tasty steaks, roasts, chops, and sausages from the get-go, I think they&#039;re less likely to have a vegetarian revelation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'm sure that the kids have comfort with :<br />
1) Adults responsibly drinking - I let my kids smell the beer or wine.  H grabs my beer often for a sniff.  I think they've both had tastes, but neither will take me up on taste offers any more.  I do not offer them tastes of my sodas though, I figure they're too likely to like that and be offered by other grown-ups in the future. </p>
<p>2) Killing animals for food.  If they know that cute cows, pigs, and deer are also tasty steaks, roasts, chops, and sausages from the get-go, I think they're less likely to have a vegetarian revelation.</p>
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		<title>By: Big Mak</title>
		<link>http://stickandballguy.com/blog/2008/12/04/more-clocks-and-a-tough-loss/#comment-171154</link>
		<dc:creator>Big Mak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 04:35:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I definitely went through that stage with my dad as well.  I refused to take his beer cans out with the rest of the recycling as my form of civil disobedience.  

Now I can just spin it that my objection was that he was drinking PBR and not something more worthwhile.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I definitely went through that stage with my dad as well.  I refused to take his beer cans out with the rest of the recycling as my form of civil disobedience.  </p>
<p>Now I can just spin it that my objection was that he was drinking PBR and not something more worthwhile.</p>
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		<title>By: brianS</title>
		<link>http://stickandballguy.com/blog/2008/12/04/more-clocks-and-a-tough-loss/#comment-171152</link>
		<dc:creator>brianS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 04:22:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As she is nearly a teenager, I am perpetually accused of thoughtcrime.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As she is nearly a teenager, I am perpetually accused of thoughtcrime.</p>
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		<title>By: E-6</title>
		<link>http://stickandballguy.com/blog/2008/12/04/more-clocks-and-a-tough-loss/#comment-171150</link>
		<dc:creator>E-6</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 03:22:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps an intervention can be done on The Girl?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps an intervention can be done on The Girl?</p>
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		<title>By: CarterHayes</title>
		<link>http://stickandballguy.com/blog/2008/12/04/more-clocks-and-a-tough-loss/#comment-171149</link>
		<dc:creator>CarterHayes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 03:19:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do they have the Junior Spies out there yet?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do they have the Junior Spies out there yet?</p>
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		<title>By: brianS</title>
		<link>http://stickandballguy.com/blog/2008/12/04/more-clocks-and-a-tough-loss/#comment-171142</link>
		<dc:creator>brianS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 23:28:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;8:00: AMR&#039;s beer.&lt;/i&gt;

I now hate California public schools. The Girl has been indoctrinated by Big Brother that alcohol is a drug, and therefore Evil in all its incarnations and levels of consumption. 

I am waiting to be denounced to the state authorities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>8:00: AMR's beer.</i></p>
<p>I now hate California public schools. The Girl has been indoctrinated by Big Brother that alcohol is a drug, and therefore Evil in all its incarnations and levels of consumption. </p>
<p>I am waiting to be denounced to the state authorities.</p>
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		<title>By: SBG</title>
		<link>http://stickandballguy.com/blog/2008/12/04/more-clocks-and-a-tough-loss/#comment-171141</link>
		<dc:creator>SBG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 22:20:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wife gives bath and puts on jammies (to daughter).  Daughter races to me with comb and tooth brush.  I take care of those details.  We spend about an hour together as a family playing, including reading books and roughhousing, general good stuff.  Then, bed time is at 8PM.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wife gives bath and puts on jammies (to daughter).  Daughter races to me with comb and tooth brush.  I take care of those details.  We spend about an hour together as a family playing, including reading books and roughhousing, general good stuff.  Then, bed time is at 8PM.</p>
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		<title>By: AMR</title>
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		<dc:creator>AMR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 22:05:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m the boy&#039;s go-to guy when he&#039;s in trouble.  I think I&#039;m softer on him than my wife because I think he&#039;s still little, even though he turns 3 on Monday.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'm the boy's go-to guy when he's in trouble.  I think I'm softer on him than my wife because I think he's still little, even though he turns 3 on Monday.</p>
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		<title>By: AMR</title>
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		<dc:creator>AMR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 22:03:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I get bath/bed every night, and have for about 5 years now (C is 5 yrs 5 months), probably with about 20 times off.
6:30: start baths, jammies, teeth brush.
7:00: TV (usually &quot;Good Eats&quot; or Twins) or games or some cleaning.
7:30: H&#039;s story and to Bed.
7:50: C&#039;s story and to Bed.
8:00: AMR&#039;s beer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I get bath/bed every night, and have for about 5 years now (C is 5 yrs 5 months), probably with about 20 times off.<br />
6:30: start baths, jammies, teeth brush.<br />
7:00: TV (usually "Good Eats" or Twins) or games or some cleaning.<br />
7:30: H's story and to Bed.<br />
7:50: C's story and to Bed.<br />
8:00: AMR's beer.</p>
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		<title>By: SBG</title>
		<link>http://stickandballguy.com/blog/2008/12/04/more-clocks-and-a-tough-loss/#comment-171129</link>
		<dc:creator>SBG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 19:30:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That was how my first solo went, too.  I ate the humble pie for a long time until I stood up and took over the sleep thing.  At first, she wailed like a banshee every night, but within a couple of weeks, she was well trained.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was how my first solo went, too.  I ate the humble pie for a long time until I stood up and took over the sleep thing.  At first, she wailed like a banshee every night, but within a couple of weeks, she was well trained.</p>
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		<title>By: Rhubarb_Runner</title>
		<link>http://stickandballguy.com/blog/2008/12/04/more-clocks-and-a-tough-loss/#comment-171126</link>
		<dc:creator>Rhubarb_Runner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 19:14:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Runner daughter and I were/are like this (shows crossed fingers), but I was always disappointed that I was never the go-to person when she was distressed about anything.  A gender thing, I&#039;m sure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Runner daughter and I were/are like this (shows crossed fingers), but I was always disappointed that I was never the go-to person when she was distressed about anything.  A gender thing, I'm sure.</p>
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		<title>By: brianS</title>
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		<dc:creator>brianS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 18:52:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My first &quot;solo&quot; experience with The Boy consisted of him screaming his head off nonstop for about the entire 90 minutes or so that Mrs. S was out of the house. So, unlike you, I got &quot;You Fial!&quot; parental humility beaten into me from the get-go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My first "solo" experience with The Boy consisted of him screaming his head off nonstop for about the entire 90 minutes or so that Mrs. S was out of the house. So, unlike you, I got "You Fial!" parental humility beaten into me from the get-go.</p>
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		<title>By: AMR</title>
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		<dc:creator>AMR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 17:51:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If we have another, I might be out of luck... I can&#039;t remember much.  

Things I do remember: since probably their first birthdays, both have had stories before naps and bedtime, although we&#039;re relaxing this for the 5yo who sometimes wants to keep watching tv or playing.  For the 2yo, he wants his bedtime prayer at naptime, too.  Until 2 1/2, each has had nightly baths immediately preceding bedtime.

I remember when the elder one was about 2, she would be awful at naptimes and bathtimes (but not bedtime).  We got a timer, set it for one hour and she had to stay in bed that long or she would get post-nap timeouts.  There was more to it, but I forget.  For baths, I started talking about it right away when I got home and whether we would have a fun bath or a no-fun bath.  Kindof like you and your 90-minute bedtime warning.

But much of what has worked for us comes down to 
1. The Joe Morgan Axiom: Be Consistently Consistent.
And 2. The Aphex Twin Corollary: Start as You Mean to Go on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If we have another, I might be out of luck... I can't remember much.  </p>
<p>Things I do remember: since probably their first birthdays, both have had stories before naps and bedtime, although we're relaxing this for the 5yo who sometimes wants to keep watching tv or playing.  For the 2yo, he wants his bedtime prayer at naptime, too.  Until 2 1/2, each has had nightly baths immediately preceding bedtime.</p>
<p>I remember when the elder one was about 2, she would be awful at naptimes and bathtimes (but not bedtime).  We got a timer, set it for one hour and she had to stay in bed that long or she would get post-nap timeouts.  There was more to it, but I forget.  For baths, I started talking about it right away when I got home and whether we would have a fun bath or a no-fun bath.  Kindof like you and your 90-minute bedtime warning.</p>
<p>But much of what has worked for us comes down to<br />
1. The Joe Morgan Axiom: Be Consistently Consistent.<br />
And 2. The Aphex Twin Corollary: Start as You Mean to Go on.</p>
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		<title>By: Beau</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 17:49:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kevin Harlan is one of the most entertaining announcers in sports.  Now that he&#039;s doing national broadcasts he has to reel in the excitement a bit, but he&#039;s got a great voice and doesn&#039;t get in the way of the game.  I&#039;ll watch a Bengals/Lions game if he&#039;s doing it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin Harlan is one of the most entertaining announcers in sports.  Now that he's doing national broadcasts he has to reel in the excitement a bit, but he's got a great voice and doesn't get in the way of the game.  I'll watch a Bengals/Lions game if he's doing it.</p>
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		<title>By: Rhubarb_Runner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rhubarb_Runner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 17:10:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps a well-timed phone call to her, asking her if it&#039;s time to take a nap?  Naps are a black art, and it&#039;s tough to know the right incantations.  I happen to be an upper level mage, but my magic doesn&#039;t work on anyone else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps a well-timed phone call to her, asking her if it's time to take a nap?  Naps are a black art, and it's tough to know the right incantations.  I happen to be an upper level mage, but my magic doesn't work on anyone else.</p>
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		<title>By: SBG</title>
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		<dc:creator>SBG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 16:31:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>She&#039;s generally pretty good with sleeping at night.  No real complaints.  The problem is that she doesn&#039;t take naps very well when I&#039;m not there.  On weekends, I do the nap thing with her and she goes right down without a fight and sleeps for 2-3 hours.  During the week when I&#039;m not there, she&#039;ll resist a nap for hours.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She's generally pretty good with sleeping at night.  No real complaints.  The problem is that she doesn't take naps very well when I'm not there.  On weekends, I do the nap thing with her and she goes right down without a fight and sleeps for 2-3 hours.  During the week when I'm not there, she'll resist a nap for hours.</p>
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		<title>By: Rhubarb_Runner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rhubarb_Runner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 15:30:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two suggestions:
Have you tried talking to BabySBG without entering her room?  I was able to settle down my daughter sometimes by talking her through it when she was awake, and it empowered her to put herself back to sleep without physical intervention.  Maybe ask her if her clock was still on the wall, and then ask her to close her eyes.
Also, try &quot;supervising&quot; when Lucy puts BabySBG to bed.  If she&#039;s &quot;misbehaving&quot;, you might remind her that she doesn&#039;t do this when you take her to bed.

Take it with a grain of salt, though -- this is from someone who would be awakened in the middle of the night by a young girl who had a bad dream, and at best gave a sympathetic, bleary-eyed, &quot;You&#039;re alright now; go back to sleep.&quot;  Of course, the only reason she came to my side of the bed in the first place was because I didn&#039;t jump a foot in the air when someone lightly tapped me on the shoulder, like the person on the other side of my bed did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two suggestions:<br />
Have you tried talking to BabySBG without entering her room?  I was able to settle down my daughter sometimes by talking her through it when she was awake, and it empowered her to put herself back to sleep without physical intervention.  Maybe ask her if her clock was still on the wall, and then ask her to close her eyes.<br />
Also, try "supervising" when Lucy puts BabySBG to bed.  If she's "misbehaving", you might remind her that she doesn't do this when you take her to bed.</p>
<p>Take it with a grain of salt, though -- this is from someone who would be awakened in the middle of the night by a young girl who had a bad dream, and at best gave a sympathetic, bleary-eyed, "You're alright now; go back to sleep."  Of course, the only reason she came to my side of the bed in the first place was because I didn't jump a foot in the air when someone lightly tapped me on the shoulder, like the person on the other side of my bed did.</p>
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