Cup of Coffee: June 26, 2009

There were a couple of point guards that the Wolves didn't draft.

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  • Pre-Twins/Cardinals Random 10:

    “Settled Land” – Echolyn, “As the World
    “So Sincere” – Gentle Giant, “The Power and the Glory
    “Peg” – Steely Dan, “Aja
    “Mudd’s Women: Three Venuses/Meet Mr. Mudd/Hello Girls/Venus Aboard/Mudd Laffs” – Fred Steiner, “Star Trek TV Soundtrack, Vol. 1
    “Siren Song” - Alan Parsons, “Try Anything Once
    “Love Will Find a Way” – Pablo Cruise, “Worlds Away
    “Parca Güell” – Eric Woolfson, “Gaudi
    “Dead Already” – Thomas Newman, “American Beauty soundtrack
    “The Sahara of the Snow, Pt. 1? – Bill Bruford, “One of a Kind
    “The Pearl” – Harold Budd & Brian Eno, “The Pearl

    Bonus Track: “The Boxer” – Simon & Garfunkel, “Bridge Over Troubled Water

    There you have it. Go Twins!!

    • I've not heard of most of your music this week, but I have been to Parc Guell in Barcelona. It's a pretty sweet place. It should definitely be on anyone's list who's planning a trip there.

      • That is probably one of my 10 favorite places in the world. So far, at least.

        • In Parca Güell a dragon sleeps with eyes that watch the sea
          And dreams of battles won and lost
          And those as yet to be.
          And all the bells of Christendom
          Won't stop this reverie.
          And eyes of mine will never see a place more beautiful to me.
          In Parca Güell an old man sits beneath a willow tree
          And in the sand he writes the name of Antonio Gaudi.
          And all the streets were paved with gold
          And wine was flowing free.
          And eyes of mine will never see a place more beautiful to me.

          Parca Güell, Parca Güell, Parca Güell, so beautiful to me.

        • 10 favorite places in the world

          I think we need a list. I don't think I have 10 yet, but my list starts with Iguazu Falls, Toronto, the Rhine River underneath the cathedral in Köln, and sitting on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial.

          • Yeah, it was more of a rhetorical device, but mine would start with the aforementioned Parc Guell (Barcelona as a whole, really), the Charles Bridge in Prague, Punta Islita in Costa Rica (middle of nowhere - awesome), and Grand Marais (we used to spend a couple of weeks up there every summer when I was a kid).

          • sitting on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial

            I found the Jefferson Memorial more impressive than Lincoln's, and I also found the Korean War Memorial left more of an impression than the Vietnam Wall. Maybe because I wasn't as familiar with them prior to visiting DC.

            • Lincoln is much better for people watching, Jefferson is much better for taking in the view across the tidal basin. I too prefer Jefferson.

              Visiting the Korean War Memorial at night is a unique experience for all of the DC monuments.

            • I found that walking down into the Vietnam Vet's Memorial wall was an almost overwhelmingly emotional experience.

              • I was just out there... it really is pretty amazing how emotional it still is for some people, how much stuff people still leave behind - family photos, letters, etc - going on 40 years after the fact now.

            • Yes, but Lincoln is where Sheenie and I would hang out a few times a year in the evening eating ice cream.

              • 10 favorite places in the world

                I think we need a list.

                DC and Barcelona would be on my list too. New Orleans is still by favorite city in the universe, regardless of the fact that the last time I was there I was nearly mugged ... by a girl ... at least I think it was a girl. Key West was an amazing place 15 years ago when I was there, although I understand it's been Disney-fied since. The Taj Mahal is even more amazing in person than it is in photographs, particularly at sunset. I met my wife in London, so that has to be there. And everyone should go to Paris with a girl, not with your brother, buddy or cousin. It doesn't even matter whether the two of you are married, serious, dating or whatever the kids say these days. By the time you leave Paris, you will be crazy about her.

  • If Only Your Eyes Could Like -- Aaron Tippin
    It Only Hurts When I Try To Smile -- Tony Orlando
    I Want Your Sex -- George Michael
    Never Been To Spain -- Three Dog Night
    I'll Be There For You -- The Rembrandts
    Cocaine -- Eric Clapton
    Your Love Amazes Me -- John Berry
    Something's Gotten Hold Of My Heart -- Gene Pitney
    Wishing It Was -- Eagle-Eye Cherry & Santana
    Driving Me Out Of Your Mind -- Tracy Byrd

  • A distinct music legends tilt to this list...

    1. Shine A Light - The Rolling Stones - Exile on Main Street
    2. Make It Funky, Parts 1, 2, 3 & 3 - James Brown - Make It Funky - The Big Payback 1971-1975
    3. Under the Red Sky - Bob Dylan - Greatest Hits Vol. 3
    4. Erie Canal - Bruce Springsteen - We Shall Overcome - The Seeger Sessions
    5. Betterman - Pearl Jam - live somewhere
    6. Walk on the Wild Side - Lou Reed - Transformer
    7. Bet No One Ever Hurt This Bad - Three Dog Night - Three Dog Night
    8. Mannish Boy - The Band w/ Muddy Waters - The Last Waltz
    9. I'm finding it harder to be a gentleman - The White Stripes - White Blood Cells
    10. Sofa Song - The Kooks - Inside In/Inside Out

    This-list-goes-to-11-special tribute: I Can't Quit Your Love - The Jackson 5 - Motown Legends: Never Can Say Goodbye

  • So, the Pacers drafted Hansbrough, because if it's anything Indiana has ever been short on, it's white guys.

  • Birthday list:

    Topsy Hartsel (1874)
    Babe Herman (1903)
    Debs Garms (1907)
    Willard Brown (1915)
    Howie Pollet (1921)
    Bill Robinson (1943)
    Mike Myers (1969)
    Derek Jeter (1974)
    Jason Kendall (1974)

  • Music list:

    It's All Your Fault--The Blasters
    With A Little Help From My Friends--The Beatles
    Red-eyed And Blue--Wilco
    Tell God--The Swan Silvertones
    See Through--Guana Batz
    Meet With Me--Ten Shekel Shirt
    Photograph--Def Leppard
    Another Saturday Night--Sam Cooke
    Pleasant Valley Sunday--The Monkees
    My Blue Heaven--Fats Domino

  • Hell – Foo Fighters – In Your Honor
    Split Myself in Two – Meat Puppets – Meat Puppets II
    Almost Cut My Hair – Crosby, Stills, Nash, and Young – Deja Vu
    Enough Space – Foo Fighters – The Colour and the Shape
    Sun Will Set – Zoe Keating – One Cello x 16: Natoma
    Tissue No. 2 – Wendy Sutter – Songs and Poems for Solo Cello (composed by Philip Glass, from the Naqoyqatsi soundtrack)
    Miranda That Ghost Isn’t Holy Anymore – The Mars Volta – Frances the Mute
    Song III – Wendy Sutter – Songs and Poems for Solo Cello (composed by Philip Glass)
    90 Hour Sleep – Dredg – Live at the Fillmore
    Weenie Beenie – Foo Fighters – (self-titled)

    A nice cello interlude there to break up all the Foo Fighters.

  • Hinder - "Better Than Me" Extreme Behavior
    Coldplay - "Amsterdam" A Rush Of Blood To The Head
    Finger Eleven - "Other Light" Finger Eleven
    50 Cent - "Poor Little Rich" Get Rich or Die Tryin'
    LaFayette Gilchrist - "Assume The Position" The Wire Soundtrack (Embedded Below)
    Justin Timberlake - "My Love" FutureSex/LoveSounds
    Seether with Amy Lee - "Broken" The Punisher Soundtrack
    Peter Bjorn & John " Up Against The Wall" Writer's Block
    The Doobie Brothers - "Without You" Best of The Doobies
    Red Hot Chili Peppers - "If" Stadium Arcadium

    Shitty list. My favorite song on there is JT. Though the LaFayette Gilchrist is pretty good..

  • SBG

    Last night, Miss SBG "achieved" a new first. She got out of bed and came downstairs after I put her to bed. She was so enamored of this maneuver that she repeated it about 4 times. Dad was not pleased. Eventually, I had to rock her to sleep to a point of nearly asleep. We had gone about 14 months with her sleeping great. But, now it appears she's going to test us on this front once again. We'll see if it repeats itself tonight. I'm hoping not.

    • Mine has woken up (angry!) between midnight and 2 each of the past 4 nights after months of uninterrupted sleeping-through-the-night bliss. I'm not always the most understanding parent at that time of night.

      • SBG

        Miss SBG will do that occasionally. I find that once I go in there, she immediately calms down and goes to sleep. I will pick her up and rock her for a minute or two just to seal the deal.

        I was perturbed last night, because she was disobeying. When I told her to get back into bed, she immediately turned around and marched right into bed. But, five minutes later, she would be out until I had enough and rocked her to sleep. While I rocked her, she kept saying that she wanted to go back into the "Big Girl Bed" but I informed her that she couldn't because she kept getting out. I hope she understood and won't do it tonight. I don't want to have to fight her every night.

    • My first daughter did that one night, and I thought it was going to begin a pattern, but she's only done it once since. No worries, yet, man...but if she pulls the stunt again tonight, all bets are off.

  • Someone needs to touch a light to the Countdown Timer...

  • Electric Guitars - Prefab Sprout
    Rio - Michael Nesmith
    There Is No Time - Lou Reed
    The First Cut Is The Deepest - Cat Stevens
    I Hate Rock N Roll - The Jesus and Mary Chain
    Police & Thieves - The Clash
    Take a Giant Step - The Monkees
    Such a Night - Dr. John
    She's Not There - The Zombies

  • BTO - "You Ain't Seen Nothing Yet" - Guitar Rock (Time-Life)
    Coldplay - "Swallowed in the Sea" - X&Y
    Soundgarden - "Limo Wreck" - Super Unknown
    The Call - "In The River" - The Woods
    Jayhawks - "Trouble" - Live at Cat's Cradle
    Monster Magnet - "Goliath and the Vampires" - Powertripping
    Jayhawks - "Let the Last Night be the Longest" - Bunkhouse EP
    Tina & the B-Side Movement - "Long Way Home" - Young Americans
    Faith No More - "The Real Thing" - The Real Thing
    Bob Dylan - "To Ramona" - Lovesick

    • For some reason I find it real funny that Tina and the B-side Movement shows up on the same list as BTO, Soundgarden and Faith No More. Nice.

    • agreed. also, i don't remember what possessed me to do it, but i felt it was time to pull superunknown off the shelf and throw it on the old ipod. i have many pleasant memories of listening to the album.

      • AMR

        I used to be able to listen to Badmotorfinger in my head by just reading the lyric sheet.
        Didn't quite get to that stage with Superunknown. I should pull that album out for next week Saturday.

  • The fricken T-Pups got Rubio, wow. I really hope that the comments from his father are nothing more than a negotiating ploy.

  • Beatles - And Your Bird Can Sing - Revolver
    Dizzy Gillespie with Jon Faddis and Milt Jackson - Girl of My Dreams - Live @ Montreaux '77
    Nick Payton - The Peanut Vendor - Dear Louis
    What Are Friends For - Reel Big Fish - Cheer Up!
    Sweet Georgia Brown/Dig - The Hornheads - 5 Heads are Better than 1
    Tell It Like It Is - Dirty Dozen Brass Band - Medicated Magic
    Arioso of King Rene from Iolanthe - Randy Hawes & Kathryn Goodson - Melodrama
    Libertango - Alison Balsom - Caprice
    Lost Mind - Diana Krall - Love Scenes
    Us - Thad Jones & Mel Lewis Big Band - Consummation

  • "You've Had It With You" Paul Westerberg Eventually
    "Easy Love" Badly Drawn Boy One Plus One Is One
    "Nineteen" Old 97's Fight Songs
    "Let Me Go" Cake Prolonging The Magic
    "Chameleon" Brandon Canning Something For All Of Us...
    "Incident On 57th Street" Bruce Springsteen The Wild, The Innocent, The E Street Shuffle
    "Hello Resolven" Beulah The Coast Is Never Clear
    "She Takes Her Clothes Off" Stereophonics Performance and Cocktails
    "Down Baby" Lightning Hopkins The Complete Aladdin Recordings
    "Turn Up The Sun" Oasis Don't Believe The Truth

  • 1. 'Sweetest Thing' - U2 The Best of 1980–1990
    2. 'Reptilia' - The Strokes Room on Fire
    3. 'I Bet You Look Good on the Danceloor' - Arctic Monkeys Whatever People Say I Am, That's What I'm Not
    4. 'Dangerous Type' - The Cars Complete Greatest Hits
    5. 'Beaten to the Punch' - Elvis Costello and the Attractions Get Happy!
    6. 'Banditos' - The Refreshments
    7. 'Barbara Ann' - The Beach Boys
    8. 'Cowboy Song' - Think Lizzy Jailbreak
    9. 'Man in a Suitcase' - The Police Zenyatta Mondatta
    10. 'Murder City' - Green Day 21st Century Breakdown

  • rob

    Coldplay, "Amsterdam", A Rush of Blood to the Head
    U2, "Vertigo", How to Dismantle an Atomic Bomb
    U2, "Exit", The Joshua Tree
    Lifehouse, "We'll Never Know", Lifehouse
    Flogging Molly, "Tomorrow Comes a Day Too Soon", Within a Mile of Home
    U2, "Love and Peace or Else", How to Dismantle an Atomic Bomb
    Silverchair, "Emotion Sickness", Neon Ballroom
    Maroon 5, "Shiver", Songs About Jane
    Nirvana, "Territorial Pissings", Nevermind
    Flogging Molly, "Far Away Boys", Swagger

    Not a bad list today, all things considered. I think this is my first list with a true duplicate, too!

  • 1. Lafayette - Lucinda Williams
    2. Forgotten Works - Klaxons
    3. Infected - Bad Religion
    4. Secondary Modern - Elvis Costello
    5. Talking in the Dark - Elvis Costello
    6. Down There by the Train - Tom Waits
    7. Down on Penny's Farm - The Bently Boys
    8. If My Heart Was a Car - Old 97's
    9. Two Rooms - The Feelies
    10. Make You Feel My Love - Bob Dylan

    Bonus: Radio Cure - Wilco

  • 1. Solomon's Wish - Waterfall - A Wise Man's Tragedy
    2. Jars of Clay - Surprise - Good Monsters
    3. Martin O'Donnell & Michael Salvatori - Floodgate: Dread Intrusion - Halo 3
    4. El-P - Smithereens (Stop Crying) - I'll Sleep When You're Dead
    5. The Hold Steady - Atlantic City - War Child: Heroes
    6. The Hold Steady - Slapped Actress - Stay Positive
    7. Chris Rice - Welcom to Our World - Deep Enough to Dream
    8. Eli - Unqualified - Second Hand Clothing
    9. The Music - So Low - Freedom Fighters Single
    10. Oasis - Where Did It All Go Wrong? - Standing on the Shoulder of Giants

    Not a big fan of this mix. Too many CCM carryovers, and a boring Oasis song.

    The Hold Steady kicks it, though.

  • “love rollercoaster” – ohio players – honey
    “nothing but sunshine” – atmosphere – lucy ford: the atmosphere eps
    “jenny” – i’m from barcelona – let me introduce my friends
    “didn’t i?” – darondo – let my people go
    “as” – stevie wonder – songs in the key of life
    “(nice dream)” – radiohead – the bends
    “subway” – walt mink – bareback ride
    “the gunner’s dream” – pink floyd – the final cut
    “mr. goldfinger” – vietnam – vietnam
    “starla” – smashing pumpkins – pisces iscariot

    bonus: “wanna be startin’ somethin’” – michael jackson – thriller
    (as my friend put it in a facebook status, "goodbye michael. i'll remember you for your music, and not that whole child molestation thing.")

  • E-6

    1. "Ashtray Heart" Captain Beefheart Doc at the Radar Station
    2. "Calling Sarah" Jellyfish Bellybutton
    3. "Passat Dream" Pavement Live in Amsterdam '97
    4. "Heroes and Villains" (live) The Beach Boys Endless Harmony
    5. "Most Of Us Are Prizefighters" AC Newman The Slow Wonder
    6. "Yer Blues" The Beatles The White Album
    7. "Figure" Richard Buckner Devotion + Doubt
    8. "Third Stone From The Sun" Jimi Hendrix Are You Experienced?
    9. "Strange" Built to Spill Ancient Melodies of the Future
    10. "I Get Along" The Libertines Up The Bracket

  • 1. Cold War Kids – Robbers And Cowards: “Red Wine, Success!”
    2. Band of Horses – The OC Mix 6: “The End’s Not Near”
    3. Red Hot Chili Peppers – By the Way: “Can’t Stop”
    4. The Strokes – Is This It: “Barely Legal”
    5. Cold War Kids – Loyalty To Loyalty: “Mexican Dogs”
    6. Blink 182 – Blink 182: “Down”
    7. Spoon – Gimme Fiction: “I Summon You”
    8. The White Stripes – Get Behind Me Satan: “The Denial Twist”
    9. Box Car Racer – Box Car Racer: “There Is”
    10. Yellowcard – Paper Walls: “Shrink The World”

  • SBG

    Wolves draft recap:

    Chad Ford:

    Here's the problem: Even if the Wolves' idea to play them together was a good one (and it isn't), I don't think Ricky Rubio's going for it. If he wants to, he can go back to Spain for the next year or two (or more) and really foul things up for the Wolves. Given how things look right now, I think he just might do it.

    ...

    In the end I doubt we see Rubio and Flynn on the floor together. Trade proposals will come the Wolves' way and Rubio's camp will push them to accept one that they like.

    Chris Mannix:

    In a draft deep with point guards, Minnesota seemingly picked all of them. At least that's what it felt like as four of the first five picks by new GM David Kahn play the point. After a couple of trades, the Timberwolves were left with Ricky Rubio and Jonny Flynn, along with UNC shooting guard Wayne Ellington and forward Henk Norel of the Netherlands. For now, the Timberwolves say they will go to camp with both Rubio and Flynn. But Rubio may have something to say about that. Sources close to Rubio say he is less than enamored with the prospect of playing in the Twin Cities and that his buyout situation with his Spanish club remains sticky. If Rubio balks at coming to Minnesota or if he is forced to remain in Spain for another year (a long shot, but possible), the Timberwolves could be forced to deal him.

    Fox Sports:

    The brand-new Minnesota GM actually took the three purest point guards in the draft. He dealt one, Ty Lawson, immediately -- but still has Ricky Rubio (pictured) and Jonny Flynn, two guys who cannot play together.

    NBA.COM

    New general manager David Kahn didn't have to trade up to No. 2 to get Rubio, so that's a plus, but the Wolves also picked up fellow point guard Jonny Flynn. Kahn said both can play together in the backcourt, ala Dennis Johnson and Danny Ainge. We'll see.

    I'm not convinced that Rubio will ever wear a T-Wolves jersey in an NBA game. His buyout situation is sticky, so he may stay in Spain for a year, or even two. I absolutely don't like the idea of playing two #1s who can't shoot together. So, we've got 2 #1s (assuming Rubio comes here), no decent #2, a marginal #3 (Gomes), 2 #4s, and no #5. I get just bringing in what you think are the best players available, but it looks like next season will be more of the same. If the Wolves are a legitimate playoff contender in 5 years, that would be cool. Right now, though, we are still wandering in the wilderness.

    • The other problem is, and I'm sure this got mentioned last night in the thread I haven't read, that Johnny Flynn is, um, not good.

    • Does Rubio staying in Spain affect our claim to his rights? I feel like there's still a degree of US basketball snobbery involved with the idea that Rubio playing in Spain would be really bad for him. When college kids stay in college, they are often praised for learning as much as possible at that level and being more mature and NBA-ready when they leave college. Would the pundits complain as much if Rubio was property of the Wolves but playing full-time at UNC for the next two years instead of part-time duty for a really bad NBA team?

      I can see the disappointment in terms of near-term impact, but when you draft an 18-year-old guy, you're not really going to get an immediate impact. Even KG and Kobe didn't play full-time until they were 20.

      • SBG

        We retain his rights. I don't think there's snobbery like you think. Teams are in effect stashing 2nd round picks over there all the time. (Drafting players under contract over there and retaining their rights while they play over there.) The deal here is that Rubio is believed to be ready -- we spent a first round pick on him -- a top 5 pick. I don't think there's anyone saying that it's bad for him to stay over there, it could be bad for the Wolves, though. They are missing out on someone who is believed to be capable of walking in and starting for them right now. There's no mechanism for having players remain in college after being drafted, so that's a strawman.

        • SBG

          In other words, if Rubio is playing in Spain, he's selling zero tickets in Minneapolis.

          • Isn't the long-term quality of the team on the court more important than some ticket sales this year? It seems like a lot of players that age don't get much playing time in their first season and could benefit more from consistent playing time.

            I personally don't believe that Rubio would be a 35-40-minute starter for the Wolves (how many players have done that before age 20 in the history of the NBA?) and his impact on ticket sales would be really minimal--some more interested fans in the first quarter of the season would give you a slight uptick, but he's not going to make a huge impact right away (it's not like we drafted LBJ) and once people realize that, they'll be buying tickets just as they would without Rubio. Maybe I'm underrating the kid, though.

            There's no mechanism for having players remain in college after being drafted, so that's a strawman.

            It's not a strawman, it's just a hypothetical. In baseball and hockey, teams spend top picks on guys who go to the minors (or even to college in the case of hockey) all the time. Now, I don't know what Kahn's real plan is or what his motivations are, but I think it would make a lot of sense from a player development standpoint to delay the release of Ricky Rubio into the NBA.

            I don't think there's snobbery like you think. Teams are in effect stashing 2nd round picks over there all the time.

            I didn't realize this happened so often. Why don't teams send these guys to the NBDL instead?

            • SBG

              I didn't realize this happened so often. Why don't teams send these guys to the NBDL instead?

              Two reasons, I think. One, the European leagues are better basketball. Two, they control the players but they don't have to pay them. So, yeah, if Rubio plays two more years in Europe, he's going to still be just 20. Just so he doesn't sign another contract and stay over there.

              By the way, there used to be a mechanism in place for teams to draft "junior eligible players", and let them go back to college for one more year. Players that were junior eligible were four years out from graduating from high school. The players did not have to declare for the draft. The teams had one year to sign them. Some team drafted an erstwhile garbage truck operator under that rule and waited a year before signing him. After that, the rule was changed. It seems to me that there was a period about ten years ago that allowed players to go back to college if they weren't happy with where they were picked, but the drafting team retained their rights. But, in that case, a player had to declare for the draft. So, the NBA has had the mechanism in place for this kind of thing at least twice before.

              I don't know, honestly, if foreign players have to declare themselves eligible for the draft. Interestingly enough, Rubio would not be eligible if he were an American -- he's too young. That stinks, in my book. Why can he play in the NBA at 18 simply because he's not from here?

              I thought it was a great day for the NBA. You had Shaq being dealt to the Cavs, Vince Carter being dealt to the Magic, a fair amount of intrigue in the draft, the Knicks fans booing their draft selection, and Minny drafting every guard available.

              • Baseball used to have the draft-and-follow too (for juco players).

              • SBG

                I should note that point guard #4 (that the Wolves traded to Dallas, why?) has already signed a contract to play in Europe. So, they could have stashed him over there for nothing. Instead, they shipped his rights to Dallas and took some of Mark Cuban's money. Probably a Meeeeeeelyon Dollars.

              • I don't pay attention to basketball, so forgive me: If there is a salary cap, what is the point of getting cash from another team? Is it for non salary related costs?

              • I think it was half a meeeeeelyon.

                The point of getting cash from another team is for making profits.

              • It's also a soft cap and there are huge disparities between the largest and smallest budgets in the league. It would probably be a bigger disparity without the cap, but the soft cap only slows down the big spenders so much.

        • I think the Wolves drafted some big European dude last year in the second round, and he is still playing there while we retain his rights. Canuis Hoopus had updates on the throughout the regular season

          • SBG

            That is correct, although it might have been the year before, I'm not sure.

            Man, CH is a good blog. They steered me wrong on Ellington getting traded last night (causing me to get verklempt for a while), but otherwise, they are a gold mine of information.

            • indeed they are. I was a basketball fan growing up (watching some horrible T-Wolves teams but the broadcasts were awesome with Kevin Harlem) then after the big Playoff year and the team got rid of Flip, I pretty much jumped off the bandwagon. But this past year I was back watching a few games on TV because I found that blog. I still dont care about them more than the Twins (or Vikes for that matter), but I am rooting for them and maybe actually go to a game next year

            • Loukas Mavrokefalidis, 2nd round in 2006. He was in the Greek League at the time, but since has played in Italy, Spain and back to the Greek League.

              I can't seem to find any stats for him. Probably because I was distracted by the graphics on his team's website:

    • SBG

      Having thought about this for a while, I'm more optimistic about Rubio playing in Minneapolis. Two years ago, Yi Jianlin was absolutely not going to sign in Milwaukee, until he did.

      • I think I heard that Rubio and Yi Jianlin have the same agent, too.

        • ESPN reports that they are both represented by Dan Fegan:

          Remember when the Bucks drafted Yi Jianlian, and there was much bellyaching about whether not the Chinese player would report to Milwaukee? A year later, Yi was later traded to a team more to his liking, in New Jersey. His hard-bargaining agent was Dan Fegan -- who also represents Rubio.

          • SBG

            Right. But, I don't think that it was agent pressure necessarily that forced Milwaukee's hand on Yi. They made a run at Richard Jefferson, and I think they thought that Yi was expendable (and I agree that he was). So yeah, it makes for a good story and adds intrigue, but I don't think that Fegan got Yi out of Milwaukee. I think the Bucks got Yi out of Milwaukee.

  • The Decemberists - "The Hazards of Love 1 (The Prettiest Whistles Won't Wrestle the Thistles Undone)" - The Hazards of Love
    Common - "Misunderstood" - Finding Forever
    Gomez - "Woman! Man!" - How We Operate
    Paul Simon - "Graceland" - Graceland
    Bruce Springsteen - "Froggie Went a Courtin'" - We Shall Overcome
    Counting Crows - "1492" - Saturday Nights & Sunday Mornings
    Michael Franti - "Nobody Right, Nobody Wrong" - All Rebel Rockers
    Johnny Cash - "One Piece at a Time"
    The Flaming Lips - "Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots Pt. 1" - Yoshimi Wins: Live Radio Sessions
    The Hold Steady - "Stuck Between Stations" - Boys and Girls in America


  • so, i ended up with an advanced copy of the album. i've only gone through it once, while doing other stuff at the time, and i can't say i was blown away. it's got a very 70s type sound going on. however, i'm reserving judgment until i go through it a few more times. sky blue sky took me a long time to get into. i really disliked it at first, but eventually grew a strong appreciation for it. by the way, i'm guessing "wilco (the song)" started as a joke in practice sessions, but then they went ahead with it anyway.

    • I just pre-ordered my copy yesterday. I've given it a few listens on imeem, and it's grown on me a bit.

      In other music news, I got Camera Obscura yesterday and it f**king rocks.

  • I don't have an iPod, so here are some things my eyes fell on as I glanced over at my collection:

    1. The Corrs - "So Young" - Best of the Corrs
    2. Regina Spektor - "The Ghost of Corporate Future" - Soviet Kitsch
    3. Ladysmith Black Mambazo - "Diamonds on the Soles of Her Shoes" - Long Walk to Freedom
    4. The Indigo Girls - "The Wood Song" - Swamp Ophelia
    5. G. Love and Special Sauce - "Cold Beverage" - G. Love and Special Sauce
    6. Phish - "The Divided Sky" - Junta
    7. The Senate - "Space Shanty" - Live
    8. Radiohead - "Paranoid Android" - OK Computer
    9. Andrea Echeverri - "A Eme O" - Andrea Echeverri
    10. The Jackson Five - "Maybe Tomorrow" - Greatest Hits

    • Cold Beverage and Barbara Ann are the co-leaders for songs I want to listen to while driving around in the truck on this hot summer day.

      • If you ever get a chance to see G. Love and Special Sauce live, by God, do it. I have never seen more energy contained in a single hour, and G. Love is an awesome, charismatic, and giving bandleader. I can't put the experience into words.

        • Agreed. And he manages to do all that sitting down. Watching G. Love play is the only time I have ever seen knees flail.

        • i've seen g. love on several occasions, and it's always a good show. there's always one small problem though. g. love shows as bring out the ladies, usually on the higher end of the hottest scale. doesn't do any good to even look at them though, as you are hopelessly outmatched: g. love is in the same room. you don't have a chance.

  • AMR

    Leaving for a week's vacation in a few minutes...

    1. Black Moth Super Rainbow "Twin of Myself" Eating Us
    2. Modern Heads "Gliding (Original Mix)" (House)
    3. Koko Taylor "Keep Your Mouth Shut and Your Eyes Open" Royal Blue
    4. Two FIngers f/ Stray "Straw Men" Two Fingers
    5. Sonic Youth "Calming the Snake" The Eternal
    6. Current 93 "Poppyskins"* Aleph at Hallucinatory Mountain
    7. Calvin Harris "I'm Not Alone"
    8. Gui Boratto "Opus 17" Take My Breath Away (House)
    9. Koko Taylor "I'm a Woman" Deluxe Edition
    10. Current 93 f/ Shirley Collins "Idumea" Black Ships Ate the Sky

    *IIRC, this features James Blackshaw on 12-string guitar

    • Wow, look at all that Koko Taylor!

      Did you ever see her perform in or around Minneapolis?

      • AMR

        I mentioned right after her death that I once saw her in New Ulm, at the short-lived "Minnesota Blues Festival."
        I had never listened to her records before she died (I hadn't really thought of her since probably 2000), but i downloaded her greatest hits and two most recent albums that week, and they haven't been taken off my iPod since.

        "I'm a Woman" is probably my favorite. Her voice rumbles and croaks, and then she sings.

        • Ah, I didn't realize it was you who made that comment.

          I kept meaning to check out more of her stuff, and sadly, I too didn't really think to do it until she was gone and therefore fresh in my head.

          • AMR

            I should really check out Son Seals' records before he passes. (Crap, he's dead too... 2004 at 62 years old, at least Koko was in her 80's, and she was still performing a month before her death.)

            Seals was the headliner for the festival the other year. Before they realized that New Ulm isn't funky enough, and they had to move on...

  • SBG

    Wolves introducing their new picks today at Target Center. A certain teenaged Spaniard will not be in attendance.

  • No time for links today, I'm on deadline.

    01. Main Title and Calvera - Elmer Bernstein (The Magnificent Seven soundtrack)
    02. I'm Frightened - John Barry (Body Heat soundtrack)
    03. Get Ready - Rare Earth
    04. Tush - ZZ Top
    05. Secret Agent Man - Johnny Rivers
    06. Peter Gunn Theme - The Hellecasters
    07. Little Wing - Stevie Ray Vaughan
    08. Hymn to Red October - Basi Poledouris (Hunt for Red October soundtrack)
    09. Trouble in Mind - Willie Nelson & Leon Russell
    10. Goodnight Irene - Ry Cooder
    11. Hot Fun in the Summertime - Sly and the Family Stone

    • i love that version of "little wing". stevie says, "no, no jimi, this is how you do it..."

    • Secret Asian Man!

      Love the Poledouris, 'specially when it breaks into The Navy Hymn ("Eternal Father, Strong to Save") at the end.

      • I'm pretty partial to the Magnificent Seven theme. It always makes me want to ride off and save a Mexican village from Eli Wallach.

        • Absolutely. I feel the same about The Big Country theme. Except not a Mexican village. And not Eli Wallach.

        • I listened to the commentary on that movie not long ago. It was great how Coburn and Wallach were both just slightly dancing around the fact that nobody liked Yul Brynner.

          • I read that in all his scenes with Steve McQueen, Brynner wanted to make sure he was taller, so he'd make mounds of dirt to stand on. Every time McQueen saw one, he'd go over and kick the dirt around until it was level again.

            • Yes! Amazing that Brynner was so self-conscious, too...at that point, Steve McQueen wasn't even Steve McQueen yet, really.

              • True dat. McQueen was doing Wanted: Dead or Alive on TV when the movie came out. In '63 he did The Great Escape, then The Cincinnati Kid in '65 and The Sand Pebbles in '66. By then he was Steve McQueen, I think, and he would still go on to do The Thomas Crown Affair, Bullitt, The Reivers, and Papillon, among others.

  • 01. Dr. John - Gris Gris Gumbo Ya [Gris-Gris]
    02. The Bill Dixon Orchestra - Voices [Intents and Purposes]
    03. Jackie Gleason - From Russia With Love [The Romantic Moods of Jackie Gleason]
    04. Porter Wagoner - Shopworn [The Rubber Room]
    05. Hossein Alizadeh & Djivan Gasparyan - Sari Galin [Endless Vision]
    06. Dexter Gordon - Scrapple from the Apple [Our Man in Paris]
    07. Scott Walker - The Seventh Seal [Scott 4]
    08. Green Day / The Eagles - Wake Me Up When September Ends / Lyin' Eyes mash-up
    09. John Zorn - Shanghai: Port of Last Resort [The Best of Film Works]
    10. The Estonian Defense Forces Orchestra & the Estonian National Male Choir - Mu isamaa, mu õnn ja rõõm [Estonian National Anthem]

  • Say Boss, is August 1 set as the date for the convention? Because I might actually get to attend this year. We already have tickets for the game, but I'm looking forward to the picnic.

  • European Oils, Destroyer, Destroyer's Rubies
    Baby on My Arm, The Broken West, I Can't Go On I'll Go On
    Saved by Old Times, Deerhunter, Microcastle
    The Stand Ins, One, Okkervil River, The Stand Ins (lame)
    Crucifixion Cruise, The Hold Steady, Separation Sunday (obligatory?)
    There She Goes, John Prine, Bruised Orange
    Eddie's Ragga, Spoon, Ga Ga Ga Ga Ga
    Fast Blood, Frightened Rabbit, The Midnight Organ Fight
    Down in the Valley, The Broken West, I Can't Go On I'll Go On
    Carolina, Josh Rouse, Nashville

    Bonus Track: Billie Jean, because, along with Kiss by Prince, they are the only tunes that are guaranteed to get my skinny butt out on the dance floor. And, no, it isn't pretty.

  • Brother Ali - Picket Fence - Shadows on the Sun
    The Go! Team - Panther Dash - Thunder, Lightning, Strike
    Sharon Jones & The Dap Kings - Answer Me - 100 Days, 100 Nights
    Blue Scholars - The Long March - The Long March EP
    Jay-Z - Song Cry - The Blueprint
    Ghostface Killah - We Made It - Supreme Clientele
    David Bowie - Heroes - Changesbowie
    Life Without Buildings - The Leanover - Live at the Annandale Hotel
    The Hives - Numbers - A.K.A. I-D-I-O-T
    Alice Smith - Secrets - For Lovers Dreamers and Me

    I like this list very much. We Made It is one of the greatest Ghostface songs.

  • 1. “Slaughter of the Soul” by At the Gates
    2. “Scythe, Rage, and Roses” by Dark Tranquillity
    3. “The Odyssey” by Symphony X
    4. “Cry of the Blackbirds” by Amon Amarth
    5. “Zodijackyl Light” by Dark Tranquillity
    6. “Guiding the North Star” by Light This City
    7. “Deal with the Devil” by Judas Priest
    8. “Doorway to Survive” by Brainstorm
    9. “Natashead Overdrive” by Crown
    10. “The Soulforged” by Blind Guardian

  • Mel Brown/ Home James (from Chicken Fat)
    The White Stripes/ As Ugly As I Seem (Live in Glasgow)
    Duke Ellington/ Bonga (Afro-Bossa)
    The Faces/ Love in Vain (Sounds for Saturday - BBC Live)
    Barrington Levy/ Here I Come (DJ Kicks - Daddy G)
    Sigur Ros/ Gong (Takk...)
    Zapata/ Do Your Thing (Texas Funk: Black Gold from the Lone Star State)
    Peace Orchestra/ Domination (Peace Orchestra)
    Harlem River Drive/ Seeds of Life (What It Is! Funky Soul & Rare Grooves)
    Art Blakey/ Johnny's Blue (Complete 1960 Jazz Messengers on Blue Note)

  • I bet Flynn and Ellington wear their jerseys tonight. Both seemed like good kids in the presser, funny and not ego maniacs.

  • DK

    1. "Kamera" - Wilco Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
    2. "You're an Ocean" - Fastball The Harsh Light of Day
    3. "Solid Gold" - Eagles of Death Metal Death By Sexy
    4. "The First Song" - Band of Horses Everything All the Time
    5. "Spanish Castle Magic" - The Jimi Hendrix Experience Axis: Bold as Love
    6. "Arizona" - Constantines Constantines
    7. "Was It You?" - Spoon Gimme Fiction
    8. "You Won't Be Fooled By This" - Albert Hammond, Jr. ¿Cómo Te Llama?
    9. "Down in a Hole" - Ryan Adams & the Cardinals Follow the Lights
    10. "Idiot Heart" - Sunset Rubdown Dragonslayer

  • SBG

    Marvin Harrison to the Vikes? I heard this rumor and immediately knew what the source must be. I was not disappointed.

  • Reusse tweets:

    The Prince of Garbage Time, Kevin Love, was ripping Wolves draft in this forum last night. Hey kid, shut up and guard someone.

    He later shouted at Kevin with instructions to vacate his lawn.

    • Reusse seems to forget that Love will only be successful in his job if he has good co-workers, and Reusse's job is safe either way. I don't know whether or not to bitch about this draft, but if anyone's entitled, it's the current players.

      At this point, just take the lot of Strib sports columnists and throw them overboard. They've crossed over from slightly annoying to embarrassingly out of touch.

      • I think Reusse's a pretty good writer at times, I just have to accept that he's a cranky old man and adjust accordingly.

        • As far as writing talents go, he's the cream of the crop. But at some point, the strange wrong-headed sentiments and the goofy obsessions just got to me.

          • SBG

            I have to say that he will frustrate me with some of his ideas, but he's still got a lot more positives than negatives.

            • Part of the problem is that I no longer go out of my way to see his writing, and 90% of what I see with his name on it is only being relayed to me because of how bad it is. If I read his work on a regular basis, the positives would probably outweigh the negatives for me too.

      • Russo seems to me to be pretty decent. He had been calling out the previous management for quite some time now and he appears to have a good relationship with players.

  • I look forward to pulling out this graphic during the NBA season:

    KAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!

  • Hedo Turkoglu is opting out of his contract with the Magic. That was expected, but the Magic trading for Vinsanity was not. Now what? Who has cap space and would be willing to bid against the Magic for Brother Hedo's services??

    Hedo turns 30 next season. For his career, he is a 38.5 pct shooter from 3pt range. His best season was 2007-08: 19.5 ppg, 5.7 rpg, 5 apg in 36.9 min/g. Numbers were a bit off this year, but he was integral to getting the Magic to the Finals. A nice complementary player.

  • Sid Ponson tested positive for a stimulate during WBC testing. A weight loss supplement . heh.

    • I read this on a blog somewhere, hardballtimes or something:

      "Someone obviously spiked his urine sample, because there's no way Sidney Ponson has ever been on an appetite suppressant in his life. Stimulants also cause increased physical activity, and there's no evidence of that with him either.

      The only non-natural substances in Ponson's pee-pee are Yoo-Hoo and failure. If I were him, I'd demand an investigation immediately."