Cup of Coffee: July 3, 2009

Heading off to God's Country, SBGville.

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  • Independence Eve's birthday list:

    Nig Cuppy (1869)
    Curt Walker (1896)
    Buddy Rosar (1914)
    Art Fowler (1922)
    Ed Roebuck (1931)
    Cesar Tovar (1940)
    Frank Tanana (1953)
    Danny Heep (1957)
    Greg Vaughn (1965)
    Moises Alou (1966)

  • Hope you have a great weekend, SBG. You and your family have been through a lot lately. I hope you can just relax and have some fun.

  • In a cruel twist, works sends me to Rochester, New York today. The cruel part being that the Red Wings are in Buffalo to play the Bisons.

  • Speaking of God's Country, the Runner family has traded cellphone coverage and easy internet access for b-e-a-u-t-i-f-u-l weather and the opportunity to reunite with old friends and family. Four of the five siblings made it here (but two of Runner Sister's kids showed up in her place) as did the foreign exchange student from Germany who stayed with us (drove up from a business trip in Omaha).

    I've had rhubarb sauce, rhubarb ice cream, and rhubarb pie (aren't county fairs great?!), and Runner Daughter and Runner Neice joined me to practice with an alumni band which will perform in the July 4th parade.

    btw, Runner Daughter was a little freaked seeing lots of other people besides just me wearing Twins clothing, and she thinks everyone here speaks "cute" -- we're not in St. Louis anymore...

  • 1. 'Rubber Biscuit' - The Blue Brothers Briefcase Full of Blues
    2. 'Know Your Enemy' - Green Day 21st Century Breakdown
    3. 'Los Angeles, I'm Yours' - The Decemberists Her Majesty The Decemberists
    4. 'Strapped For Cash' - Fountains of Wayne Traffic and Weather
    5. 'I Gotta Move' - The Kinks The Kinks
    6. 'Poison Ivy' - Von Bondies Pawn Shoppe Heart
    7. 'Tempted' - Squeeze Singles - 45's and Under
    8. 'Dangerous Type' The Cars Complete Greatest Hits
    9. 'El Scorcho' - Weezer Pinketeron
    10. 'Walking With a Ghost' - The White Stripes Walking With A Ghost (ep)

  • "The Oath" - Kiss - Music from "The Elder"
    "Tramp the Dirt Down" - Elvis Costello - Spike
    "Sweet Soul Sister" - The Cult - Sonic Temple
    "Do Fries Go With That Shake" - George Clinton - Greatest Funkin Hits
    "D'yer Maker" - Led Zeppelin - Houses of the Holy
    "When You Come Back to Me" - World Party - Reality Bites Soundtrack
    "Silent Night" - Johnny Cash - Christmas with Johnny Cash
    "September Morn" - Neil Diamond - His 12 Greatest Hits
    "Country Honk" - Rolling Stones - Let It Bleed
    "Fistful of Diamonds" - WASP - Last Command

  • Come Live With Me -- Roy Clark
    Girl -- The Beatles
    Better Man, Better Off -- Tracy Lawrence
    Nowhere To Run -- Martha & The Vandellas*
    Little Wild One -- The Wonders That Thing You Do!
    Wake Me Up Before You Go Go -- Wham!
    Streets Of Bakersfield -- Dwight Yoakam & Buck Owens
    What She's Doing Now -- Garth Brooks
    Fast As You -- Dwight Yoakam**
    Like We Never Had A Broken Heart -- Trisha Yearwood

    * -- I was introduced to this song when I saw Good Morning Vietnam in 1989. What an awesome soundtrack that movie has, and I've grown to love this one over time.
    ** -- Has Dwight ever had a stinker performance in a movie? Not that his life isn't rosy, but I've always felt that his music and his acting are vastly underappreciated

  • Stuff I own...

    "Calliope House/The Cowboy Jig" - Alasdair Fraser/Paul Machlis - Celtic Odyssey
    "The Outsider" - A Perfect Circle - Thirteenth Step
    "Set Adrift on Memory Bliss" - PM Dawn - Of the Heart, of the Soul and of the Cross
    "Arms of a Woman" - Amos Lee - Amos Lee
    "Mandolin Rain" - Bruce Hornsby and the Range - The Way it Is
    "Gone" - KanYe West feat. Consequence and Cam'ron - Late Registration
    "Futuresound" - Jurassic 5 - Feedback
    "Dear Mr. Fantasy" - Traffic - Mr. Fantasy
    "Texas Flood" - Stevie Ray Vaughan and Double Trouble - Texas Flood
    "Ready or Not" - The Fugees - The Score

  • 1. You've Really Got A Hold On Me--The Miracles
    2. T. N. T.--AC/DC
    3. The Pain Of Loving You--Dolly Parton, Linda Rondstadt, And Emmylou Harris
    4. Here Comes That Rainy Day Felling--The Fortunes
    5. Don't Bring Me Down--The Animals
    6. Better Is One Day--Passion
    7. I Recommend Jesus--The Canton Spirituals
    8. West End Girls--Pet Shop Boys
    9. Boy In The Box--Corey Hart
    10.The ABCs of Love--Frankie Lymon & The Teenagers

    • Weird...I ran into "West End Girls" on the radio yesterday for the first time in ages (partially because I rarely turn on the radio). I dig a lot of what they did...I'm not sure why I don't own any of it.

      • for no particular reason, I had a very high appreciation for both "West End Girls" and Dream Academy's "Life in a Northern Town" (which, the Repository tells me, is about Nick Drake).

        Not that those two have much else in common.

    • Here Comes That Rainy Day Felling--The Fortunes
      I love this song!

  • News that Andrew can use:

    Participants repeatedly expressed that college men paid more attention, and found it more attractive, when a woman could match their drinking. In sum, subjects insisted that women who drink like men do not do so because they want to be like a man (in terms of male power), but rather because they want to be liked by men.

    • I don't drink like Andrew, but I do like it when a woman will match me. What bugs me is that most of the women I date have no probably drinking with their friends, but when they're with me they won't have more than one, even if we've been together for a while.

      • Back in my college days (i.e. last year) a girl declared she was going to match me, and I took it as a challenge for some immature reason and went absolutely balls to the wall with a bottle of whiskey. I ended up passing out on the couch, she ended up throwing up and crying, and neither of us had any fun at all. I think I might actually prefer it when a girl encourages me to drink less, not more.

        • Oh, I agree. I don't like getting that drunk. But usually I'll have a drink or two and the girl will have some sips. Maybe they know they won't be able to resist me if they drink more OShock)

    • Hey now...I think. It's ok, I suppose, since I've admitted in the past to having a crush on a girl because she could open a bottle of beer with her teeth.

  • 1. Knew It All Along - Fu Manchu - We Must Obey
    2. Swing Low, Sweet Chariot - Louis Armstrong - The Very Best of Louis Armstrong
    3. Letargo - Reino Ermitano - Reino Ermitano
    4. Common Bitch - Ween - God-Ween-Satan
    5. Tearing Us Apart - Eric Clapton - August
    6. Black Dog - Dread Zeppelin - Un-Led-Ed
    7. When Lights are Low - Miles Davis - Milestones
    8. Danza de las Brujas II - Reino Ermitano - Reino Ermitano
    9. So Divided - ...And You WIll Know Us By The Trail Of The Dead - So Divided
    10. Leap Frog (Take 10) - Charlie Parker - Bird: The Complete Charlie Parker

  • Blackalicious - Day One - Blazing Arrow
    The Roots - The Next Movement - Things Fall Apart
    The Hives - Try It Again - The Black and White Album
    The Stooges - Dirt - Fun House
    The Stooges - Fun House - Fun House
    Heartless Bastards - Finding Solutions - All This Time
    The Deadly Snakes - High Prices Going Down - Porcella
    The White Stripes - Let's Build A Home - De Stijl
    The Clash - Rudie Can't Fail - London Calling
    Alice Smith - Secrets - For Lovers Dreamers and Me

    I'm officially getting bored with the music on my ipod, but laptop is still broken and I can't put anything else on there. Oh well.

  • Oasis - "Digsy's Dinner" - Definitely Maybe
    Bob Marley & the Wailers - "Waiting in Vain" - Gold Disc 2
    Clap Your Hands Say Yeah - "Upon This Tidal Wave of Young Blood" Clap Your Hands Say Yeah
    Bob Dylan - "Like a Rolling Stone" - Bob Dylan's Greatest HitsA User's Guide to They Might Be Giants
    Brother Ali - "Listen Up" - The Undisputed Truth
    Elton John - "Crocodile Rock" - Greatest Hits, 1970-2002
    O.A.R. - "Get Away" The Wanderer
    Tom Jones - "You've Lost That Lovin' Feelin'" - Hits and Duets
    Coldplay - "Politik" A Rush of Blood to the Head

  • E-6

    1. "Beware of Darkness" George Harrison All Things Must Pass
    2. "Lover's Spit" Feist Live at Park West
    3. "Lady in the Front Row" Redd Kross Phaseshifter
    4. "Too Bad" Faces A Nod Is As Good As A Wink
    5. "Say Hello" Rosie Thomas These Friends Of Mine
    6. "Beat on the Brat" The Ramones Ramones Mania
    7. "Desperado" The Langley Schools Music Project Innocence & Despair
    8. "Move to the Country" Smog Knock Knock
    9. "Good Golly Miss Molly" The Sonics Here Are The Sonics
    10. "Good Morning, Little Schoolgirl" Muddy Waters Muddy Waters: His Best (1956-1964)
    bonus: "Behind The Door" Sugar Plant After After Hours

    • The Sonics!!!!!!!!!

      Ball & Biscuit/ The White Stripes with Bob Dylan (source unknown)
      Together/ The Raconteurs (Live in Ann Arbor, MI)
      Know It All/ Tamba 4 (Samba Blim)
      We Are Going to Be Friends/ The White Stripes (Glastonbury 2002)
      Salt Peanuts/ Miles Davis (Steamin' with the Miles Davis Quintet)
      Manteca Theme/ Dizzy Gillespie (Afro)
      F. Big City Blues/ Gerry Mulligan (Gerry Mulligan '63)
      Se Lest/ Sigur Ros (Takk....)
      Blue in Green/ Bill Evans (Portrait of Bill Evans)
      Lived in Bars/ Cat Power (The Greatest)

      bonus: Ball of Confusion/ The Temptations (Hitsville USA box)

  • 1. So High -- Elvis Presley
    2. Video Killed the Radio Star -- Presidents of the Uniteds States of America
    3. Jamaica Sky -- The Specials
    4. Down by the Highway -- Bob Dylan
    5. John Henry -- Bruce Springsteen
    6. Cheap Reward -- Elvis Costello
    7. The Imposter (live) -- Elvis Costello
    8. Sin City -- Uncle Tupelo
    9. Hero -- Ministry
    10. Heartbeat -- Wire

    Bonus: One Tree Hill -- U2

  • Someone (I don't have the capabilities) needs to do a Great Moments in Gameday History for the last pitch of the Brewers/Cubs game today. A walk-off walk on a pitch that should have ended the inning. Brewers fans must be tearing their hair out.

    • I wonder how accurate the top of that strike zone is. Jake Fox seems to have a pretty low crouch in his stance, and watching the replay, it looked like the ball was borderline high. At least without the aid of gameday, I would say that it could have gone either way.

      DeFelice kind of dug his own grave with pitches 2, 3, and 4, which weren't really even close enough that he could've expected Fox to chase them.

  • AMR

    sure looks to me like the gamelog is broken... 500 letter-limit?

  • I think the 15th inning broke the game thread. I am getting 'the black bar of death'

  • We may have to blow up Friday

  • the delay on Gameday drive me nuts. it says "in play, run(s)" and then it seems like 15 years before a description of the play shows up

  • Tying run at the plate!

  • so, Portland is not a European-type city.

    Pfft. Little Beirut isn't euro-ish? Socialist land-use planning, heavy investment in public transportation, breweries, distilleries....

    Just say it was about the money, Hedo. Because it ain't about winning -- you coulda played with a contender.

    • I wouldn't completely dismiss the possibility that his wife thought Portland was too small, culturally homogeneous, and far removed from "important" cities for her taste. I don't really know much about how Toronto compares to Portland, but I know some people who've lived here in Seattle and feel that there's absolutely nothing to do. (I happen to find these people crazy, unimaginative, and somewhat insulting, but I have verified their existence.)

      And, you know, maybe Hedo's a sensitive guy and wants to make sure that his wife is happy.

      This doesn't seem like anything for Portland to cry over, though, if Hedo gets 5 years (or more) the back end of the contract could be pretty miserable.

      • Toronto is quite cosmopolitan and is a true melting pot. Moss was surprised on visiting Toronto for the first time that it is nearly as large as, and possibly larger than, Chicago. And yet, it appeared to be a nice, clean, relatively safe, and even "friendly" city.

        Moss wouldn't want to live there becuase of the population density, but Moss would visit again.

        • Yea, I had my tongue half-way in my cheek. I've never been to Toronto, but I understand it's supposed to be a great city. It is MUCH larger than Portland (5.5 million in the metro area, compared to 2.2 million in the Portland metro area).

          but the basketball team.... Eww, particularly after having to give up two starters (Shawn Marion and Anthony Parker) to fit Hedo under the cap. Toronto won 33 games last year with Chris Bosh, Andrea Bargnani, Jose Calderon and the now-renounced Anthony (I'm Not Candace) Parker leading the way. Exchanging The Matrix and Parker for Hedo and Demar DeRozan doesn't make them obviously better.

          In contrast, Portland is on the verge of being really good. They won 54 games last year, are WAY under the cap (only $48M committed to the current roster, according to HoopsHype, with only about $12M committed for 2010-11), and have a dynamite rotation whose only real hole just happens to be at small forward (where journeyman Nicholas Batum started 76 games and averaged 5.4/2.8/0.9). (I ignore Steve Blake as a weak spot; I think he fills more of a Steve Kerr/John Paxson type of a role than as a traditional PG, because of Roy; Blake shot 42.7 pct from 3s last year and half his shots were from that range).

          Hedo would have fit beautifully in that team, giving them improved long-range shooting, a terrific third option who moves the ball well, plays unselfishly and plays decent defense, and who would have meshed well with star Brandon "meeeelion dollars" Roy.

          I really think that Portland should be in the title mix for the next 5 years or so (assuming they re-sign Przybilla to maintain the two-headed monster in the post). They have depth, shooting, ball movement and good enough defense. Hedo would have made them better -- enough better to push the Lakers to the limit every year.

          • DK

            My favorite basketball writer didn't think Hedo would fit in beautifully in Portland at all.

            • Portland, Hedo Turkoglu is 30. He's a fine player, but an average one, especially after you factor defense in. Please act accordingly.

              an average player?? that's a joke, right?

              If you put stock in PER, Hedo was down this year from last and this was the second in the last three in which his PER was below 15. Over his last 5: 16.0, 16.7, 14.2, 17.8, 14.8. He's a career 38.5 pct career 3pt shooter, which is pretty darned good.

              I'm not so sure there is a lot of evidence there that he's about to fall off a cliff. By the end of a 5-year contract, sure. But he's easily got 3 more years of prime in him.

              • A PER of 15 is average, right? And if he's not good at defense (seems likely) then being in the 16-17 range probably doesn't make you average.

              • average for a starting SF, perhaps. And, while defensive stats are just as suspect in hoop as baseball, he rates as an above-average defensive player and offensive player (see basketball-reference.com).

                I'd look up the more advanced metrics on him, but I'm too lazy at the moment.

              • No, I think overall. I don't have espn insider, so I can't access all the PER standings, but there were 20 SF with a 15.15 or better PER last year. There were 20 PF with a 17.28 or better PER last year. There were 20 C with a 16.75 PER or better last year. There were 20 SG with a 15.15 or better PER last year. And there were 20 PG with a 15.44 or better PER last year.

                Hedo's average PER over the last 5 years was 15.9, so even if you figure he's an average defender and is probably at least somewhat declining, he's not a top-100 player in a 30-team league. Is that the kind of player that you want to devote ~20% of your cap space to for the next 5 years while he is in decline? If he's the last piece, I could maybe see it, and he might be the last piece, but I think the Blazers would be just as well off in the long term with or without that contract.

              • You can get PER stats from KnickerBlogger.net

                Turkoglu's PER ranked 132nd in the league this year at 14.9 (although that includes multiple listings for players who were traded during the season). FWIW, Tayshaun Prince, whom I would regard as a well-above average SF, was 129th at 15.0. According to Knickerblogger, Turkoglu ranked 7th among players listed as SFs, although there were a number of players above him listed simply as "F" rather than SF or PF (and Turkoglu was, in fact, listed as a "GF"). I didn't go through the labor of identifying all the comps, but there probably were at least 20 above him.

                David Berri doesn't make his Win Scores generally available, but we do have scores from the first half of the season, at which point Turkoglu ranked 76th in the league out of 425 players ranked. The median score was 0.6 with a range from Chris Paul's +15.9 to Al Harrington's -1.6. Turkoglu's score was 3.1. The top 5 comparable position players were Lebron (12.7), Andre Iguodala (7.3), Gerald Wallace (6.6), Brandon Roy (6.4), and Paul Pierce (5.5). Other notables include: Tayshaun Prince at 4.5 and Tracy McGrady at 3.2.

                Berri's system is somewhat controversial, but probably a considerable sight better than PER as an evaluative tool. FWIW.