"It's good to be able to watch a guy like that [Brett Favre] because of the way he plays. He's a guy who makes plays out of nothing. It's similar to what I do." -- Tarvaris Jackson
"When they put Tarvaris Jackson in during the third quarter, it's embarrassing to be down that far." -- Matt Hasselbeck

Nobody likes to see Tarvaris Jackson play, but everyone likes the results.
What Tarvaris Jackson does is "similar" to what Brett Favre does in the same way that my appearing in a skit in church is "similar" to what spookymilk does. They both fall into the same general category, if you make the category broad enough, but that's where the similarity ends.
Maybe he meant "dissimilar" but the "dis" was silent.
The best part of the wording is that Brett does things similar to what T-Jack does, not the other way around.
It would be like saying "Yeah, watching Jimmy Stewart movies is a good thing. He does things similar to what I do in my church skits."
Good point.
Jimmy Stewart?! He has all the range of Juan Castro.
Dude, Jimmy's range factor/game at middle infield positions destroys Juan Castro.
You couldn't carry Jimmy Stewart's jock.
Just saying...
Favre makes plays out of nothing. T-Jack makes nothing out of plays. I guess that's similar.
For those interested, the Springsteen show last night, rumoured to be his last ever (!!!) with the E Street Band was nearly 4 hours of pure rock and roll goodness. He played Greetings From Asbury Park, for the first (and I suppose last) time in full. Set list can be found here.
I think the main thing that separates the Boss from his peers is his abilty to make every single song seem so important.
From the very first song it felt like it was the last song of an encore from a show lasting 6 hours. The band gave it their all on every single song. Which is more than can be said for most bands nowadays.
Peter King tops himself for inanity:
Right because before the Patriots got Welker all that loser Brady had done is win three Super Bowls. I should add that Brady got hurt and missed 15 1/2 games of Welker's NE career. Oy vey, the stupid!
You Choose:
1: Business trip to Omaha
2: Clean house for Thanksgiving guests
I chose 1 because I can expense my meals. And because, you know, work pays the bills. Not because I don't like cleaning or anything.
I would say you made the right call.
On the other hand... it's Omaha, dude.
Hey, I'm going to Omaha on Wednesday. It's the Matt's second birthday party Wednesday night.
guess I just miss you, dude. The Matt would have been calling our names
If I may pose a similar question:
You Choose:
1: Business trip to Memphis
2: Clean house for Thanksgiving guests
I chose 1 because I can expense my meals. And because, you know, work pays the bills. Not because I don't like cleaning or anything.
Although a large part of me hates Memphis, and would almost rather be cleaning the house.
Time to start planning that trip near Christmas cleaning time as well.
The best airport food I've ever had was BBQ from the concourse in Memphis while on layover.
Last time I was there I grabbed a pulled pork sandwhich from a place I can't remember. It was quite excellent, and huge, which was great for airport food. For me, the airport itself is the best part about that city. (ok, the Flying Saucer was pretty good too.)
I'll second that. I've never actually been to Memphis, but I've been to the airport at least half a dozen times with long enough layovers to catch a bite to eat.
I get to spend 3 hours in the Atlanta airport tomorrow, which is truly when traveling is awesome.
ESPN baseball "experts" have the AL MVP at Mauer (20), Jeter (1, Jon Miller), Teieieieieieixeieieieieieiera (1, Steve Berthiaume).
What? No love for MoRo?
Can't we just give the award to every Yankee?
So, I think we all are pretty optimistic Mauer walks away with the MVP, where do you think any other Twins will finish in the ballots? I'm guessing
Cuddyer 19
Kubel 22
Nathen 24
I think Denard Span and Jason Morneau have a chance of getting some 9th or 10th place votes.
Yeah, Morneau hit the magic 30/100 numbers and MVP voters do love him, but I think being outside the top10 in both HR and RBI will skunk him on the votes. I'd love to see Span get a couple votes as most metrics have him as the 2nd most valuable player on the team this year, but again, are voters smart enough to look past RBI? The writers have looked good so far (Greinke and Lincecumm both with low win totals) but I'm not sure they see the value of Span over Kubel/Cuddy yet. We'll see in a couple hours.
via twitter
LaVelleNeal Wow. Jason Kubel got an eighth-place vote. Michael Cuddyer got an eighth- and an tenth-place vote.
Nick Punto should get some votes!
He gets one vote for every candidate on the ballot every Tuesday after the first Monday in November, just like everyone else.
Apparently MVPs get statues.
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/baseball/al/2009-11-23-2618507715_x.htm
I can't wait until April to pose with said statue before entering the gates of our glorious new stadium.
thats pretty neat
Kirby never won an MVP. But, yes, I'll have to get my picture with each of those.
EDIT: d'oh, somehow I split the thread. I've moved the TV discussion down -sorry-
I have, no lie, both a 720p 50 inch and a 1080 40 inch in my living room right now. Can't really tell the difference.
Note: Neither of these TVs are mine. They are my housemates.
Just FYI, Nintendo's "Duck Hunt" won't work with an LCD or Plasma. A 720P is fine and will still be fine if/when cable goes to 1080. It'll just mean that your TV will slightly downgrade the quality of the picture (depending on your eyesight, you may not even notice!) If I were in the market, I'd probably want to splurge and get a 1080, but I am perfectly happy with my 28" 720P TV. So basically, it's all good.
I thought the conventional wisdom was that the eye can't really tell the difference between 1080p and 720p on screens below about 32-35 inches??
Correct. Unless you're within a few feet of the screen. For normal viewing distances you need 40-45 inches for 1080p to matter.
We have a 720p right now, and the only drawback is that 1080i programming downgrades to 720i, which isn't all that great if there is fast-moving action. But once stations start broadcasting 1080p, then it'll show in 720p on our set. It seems to be more of a problem with the broadcast than the set, I'd say.
back to statures...who should get them?
My quick list
Killer
Oliva
Carew
Blyleven
Zoilo (MVP)
Puck
Hrbek
Morneau (MVP)
Mauer
I say a series of Joe Mauer statues like they ran of the Peanuts characters. He's such an interesting man, the possibilities are endless...
Joe Mauer goes to Jimmy Johns.
Joe Mauer gets his haircut.
Joe Mauer buys groceries.
Joe Mauer fills his car with gas.
Radke?
I think Herb would be a nice addition to your list.
And Halsey.
TK definitely deserves a statue.
Killer, Oliva, Puck. Mauer if he signs another contract. Carew.
Oliva's injury ravaged career doesn't quite add up, but he's been with the organization pretty much for 45 years. I'm a little young to be a big Oliva guy, but I think the guys that are ten years older than me probably loved Oliva almost (if not more) as much as Killer.
Bob Allison is another guy whose numbers alone might not add up, but who was pretty important to those early Twins teams and the real old timer fans.
I'm not ten years older, but yeah, Oliva was loved almost as much as Killebrew. It was a little like Mauer and Morneau, in that that one was clearly better, but they were both very good and both fan favorites.
I'm also not ten years older, but Oliva was loved because he had more dimension to his game. Same reason Span is more enjoyable to watch than Cuddy or Kubel. Tony O not only hit for average, but they were line drives, and at one point he had quick legs (that bent below the hips).
True. The argument for Oliva was always that he was a more of a complete player, whereas Killebrew was more one-dimensional. Killebrew was really good at his one dimension, though.
Definitely no Morneau. Otherwise I don't care.
No love for St. Paul, I see.
I wasn't off by too much, in fact I just needed to slide the Twins back. It was Cuddyer at 22 (instead of Kubel) and Kubel at 24 (instead of Nathan) with twitchy Joe not getting any votes.
I'm surprised that Nathan was shut out, particularly since the vote was pre-playoffs.
What are people's thoughts on pitchers and the MVP award. I'm not shy in stating that I believe they shouldn't be considered. There are two major awards. One of them is for pitchers, with the words 'Most Valuable Pitcher' inscribed on the actual trophy.
What would be ideal is if there were an award explicitly for everyday players. Not even the Hank Aaron award as that is solely offensive. Then the MVP could be whoever. And perhaps like the NFL with one winner between leagues. But that's not how it is, and it doesn't look like that will change anytime in the near future.
I always consider the MVP to be for the best position player, and Cy Young for the best pitcher, and I'd rather not have pitchers winning the MVP.
So, I'm thinking that relievers Willie Hernandez (1984) and Dennis Eckersley (1992) winning both Cy Young and MVP would have really torqued you off. It might doubly tick you off to know that the second place winners in those years were Kent Hrbek and Kirby Puckett.
from this day on, I will consider Puckett the 1992 AL MVP winner. Stupid closers.
even thought I might have voted Frank Thomas. It'd be close.
And my 1984 hypothetical MVP would be Ripkin I suppose.
Wow. Interesting. Cal won it in 1983 with this line .318/.371/.517 in 726 PAs and nearly replicated the year in 1984 by hitting .304/.374/.510 in 716 PAs.
He finished 27th in voting in 1984. The difference was apparently his decline in runs and ribeyes.
Generally, I like to keep the award separate. But, if there is a rare occasion that a pitcher is so dominate and the position players have a weak field, then vote for the pitcher for MVP
I don't have a problem with two separate awards if that is explicitly stated. The way it is now, however, I think that if a pitcher is, in fact, the most valuable player in the league (however "valuable" is defined, which is a separate argument), then he should win the award.
What I would really prefer is awards that clearly state they go to the best everyday player and the best pitcher. I think that's what these awards were intended to be, but now they've gotten mucked up by people who want to argue that you can't be valuable if you're not on a championship team. Even so, though, I suppose people would still say, "well, he can't be the best player because he couldn't lead his team to victory." As Douglas Adams once pointed out, the problem with trying to design something that's completely foolproof is that we tend to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools.
Ah. I love Douglas Adams.
I read somewhere that the CYA was started because pitchers weren't winning the MVP very often. So, it's kind of like what you said. But now, we have the Hank Aaron Award, voted on by fans. Oy vey.
I've met MOT (not the Hoople) so I can confirm that he is not LaVelle E. Neal III.
has LEN3 stated similar?
MVP VOTING
The Ballot of Pedro & Pudge
In the 48 hours after Rangers catcher Ivan Rodriguez (right) was named the American League's Most Valuable Player on Thursday, Minneapolis Star Tribune sportswriter La Velle E. Neal III received 325 E-mails, answered 100 telephone calls and amassed another 75 phone messages, including 10 from one peeved Bostonian on a pub crawl. By omitting pitchers from his MVP ballot, Neal helped throw the vote to Rodriguez over Red Sox ace Pedro Martinez, a stand that left Neal's popularity in New England somewhere between Bill Buckner's and the Boston Strangler's.
Yes, Rodriguez was brilliant. He batted .332 with 35 homers and 113 RBIs. He gunned down 53% of would-be base stealers, easily leading the majors in that department. But Texas won the Western division by eight games with a lineup that also featured sluggers Rafael Palmeiro (.324, 47 home runs, 148 RBIs) and Juan Gonzalez (.326, 39 homers, 128 RBIs) in a year of absurdly inflated offensive numbers. While most pitching stats were similarly bloated, Martinez carried Boston to the playoffs by leading the majors with 23 wins and a minuscule 2.07 ERA that was a record 2.79 runs lower than the league average.
Yet Martinez lost by 13 points, 252 to 239, because he was not among the 10 players listed on two ballots—Neal's and that of George King of the New York Post. Had Martinez ranked fourth or higher on both those ballots or first on either, he would have won.
GREAT!!
I was completely unaware of this event. I have all the more credit for LEN3 now. It's not a matter of value. I agree, Pedro was the most valuable player in all of baseball. But he won the Cy Young, the award for most valuable pitcher. Until there's an award for most valuable position player, I view the MVP in this way.
Separate but equal. Maybe I shouldn't use this phrase...
Just realize that not everyone views the two awards the same way you do, Comrade.
My problem with LN3 there is that he made up his own set of rules for the award. Until the official voting guidelines are changed to exclude pitchers from eligibility, deserving pitchers should be given due consideration. Pedro was really special that year, and should have been high on every ballot.
If a voter would decide that he's only going to vote for catchers and shortstops, or only sluggers with at least 30 HR and 120 RBI, I think he'd be left without many defenders. Excluding pitchers seems about as unfair and arbitrary to me.
Also, LN3's explanation was pretty weak, indicating that he did see it as a matter of value:
There were other good players on that team? Their manager did a great job? Ho, boy.
LEN3's MVP criteria:
1. Not a pitcher
2. No other good players on the team
3. The manager did a less-than-great job
If it wasn't for #1, he should've voted for Greinke.
Shin Soo-Choo should have been a lock!
But there's already an award for Most Valuable Pitcher that is viewed largely on the same level as the MVP award. That's where the issue with pitchers comes in.
I actually love how the Cy Young is for the BEST pitcher in each league, but says 'Most Valuable Pitcher'. It's as if the creators of the award viewed these as analogous. You can see them in their newsroom hating on the man playing devil's advocate.
'Obviously if someone was the best in the league, they provided the most value. No need to change the wording!'
'Obviously if someone was the best in the league, they provided the most value. No need to change the wording!
So if a pitcher might be judged as having more value than anybody else in the league that year, and he is clearly eligible for the MVP award, why shouldn't he be given votes on the MVP ballot?
You say, well, pitchers have their own award. But the point is, they're eligible to win both. If LN3 or any other voters don't like it, they should recuse themselves from voting, until the official criteria for MVP is changed.
Dr. Chop and I are busily stimulating the economy with our insurance settlement, which brings me to the technical question with no clear answer: What kind of TV should we be buying? I'm so far behind the times that when I went to do the initial research I left the store boggled. The tube TV we lost in the fire was probably 15 years old and was still functional for our needs, but the advancement in TV tech is staggering. I know the basic differences between plasma and lcd (ie the contrast ratio, burn in, viewing angle...), what I'm looking for is personal preferences and insight into this ridiculous dilemma.
ps The guy at bestbuy told me yesterday that cable broadcast will soon be in 1080, but didn't explain if that would render a 720p TV a large and bulky paperweight?
Buy an old one at a garage sale and get a converter box. No drama!
I like that logic, on the other hand, my insurance company doesn't take hand written receipts.
Get one at Best Buy, any one will do. Get the insurance to pay for it, then return it/sell it on Craigslist. Then use that money to get one at a garage sale.*
*The above advice is probably insurance fraud, so be careful.
Indeed, you are suggesting fraud/CYA
so, you have to keep the new TV forever in order to not commit insurance fraud? I don't think so.
I wonder if there are any lawyers in the Nation who might venture an opinion (in a totally non-giving-legal-advice way).
As an actuary, I'd suggest you calculate a discounted future expected lifespan, discounting by both the present value of money, but also by degradation of state-of-the-artiness. How much thinner and cooler and higher-def will available TVs be in 5 years?
Once that is done, then commit insurance fraud.
so, you have to keep the new TV forever in order to not commit insurance fraud?
No, but as I understand it if you purchase a new TV with the intention to return it for cash profit then it's fraud.
I can't really give a good technical answer, but in my experience there isn't really a ton of difference, for most people, in the quality of an LCD, plasma, projection, whathaveyou HD tv. I bought a 42" Samsung Plasma that does 1080p a year and a half ago, or so. I'm loving it.
Back when I last had a roomate, he had purchased a big ass rear projection HD. It looked plenty good, but it was pretty wide. I don't even think I've seen those around anymore.
42" LCD 1080p is probably the best value out there right now. Also LCD's use a lot less electricity than a plasma.
One other piece of advice, don't spend $30 or more for a HDMI cable. You can easily get one of the same quality on-line for $5-$10. The huge markup on store-bought HDMI cables is one of the biggest rip offs out there right now.
There are now LED-driven LCD's that are even more energy efficient than the run-of-the-mill LCD's (which use a cold-cathode fluorescent backlight).
Technically, LEDs are not LCDs. [/nitpick] The LED sets do use a lot less energy, though.
Or I could have totally misunderstood the technology and spoken too soon. Do the LEDs just provide the backlight?
some detail here
Bingo...
is there a Costco in your corner of
hellTexas? Get a nice, big Vizio. And yes, the LED LCDs just use LEDs for backlighting.Anyone else watch the MLS Cup Final last night? Not a fantastic game, but not bad either. On the strength of the way they played from halftime on, I think RSL deserved the win.
Also, I'm looking forward to hear from ubelmann on how it was in person. Things looked a little on the chilly side.
I watched and thought they were pretty evenly matched. Can't believe Donovan missed that shootout kick.
It was a really fun game in person, I thought. Not as fun as when the home team is involved (when the whole crowd is cheering for the Sounders, it is pretty great), but RSL and LA had good support at the game.
I agree with Andrew that RSL was playing better from halftime on, but looking at the whole 120 minutes, I think that a tie would have been a perfectly fair outcome. RSL had a really tough time adjusting to the Mathis-for-Morales sub, which kind of makes sense since he started all but 2 league games for RSL this year, but they got it together after halftime. All of the injuries (Morales, Ricketts, Gonzalez, Beckham's ankle) were kind of a bummer, but there was plenty of attacking soccer to be had.
Things were a little chilly for sitting around that long. Not a bad temp for running around and playing soccer.
Also, I have to say that I don't think that the FieldTurf is nearly as bad as everyone is making it out to be. MLS looked into bringing grass for this game, but any grass they could have put on top of the turf would have more or less died en route this time of the year, plus it rained for about 4-5 days leading up to the game, so it would have been a soggy mess even though there was no rain during the game itself. If they wanted to play the game in Seattle in November, FieldTurf was the best surface available. There were also no NFL gridlines and I've seen some other pitches (most recently, Houston in the playoffs) play just as bad if not worse than Qwest's turf. [/rant]
Considering how little the ref brought out his yellow card, I feel like we were lucky that the game didn't get chippier. I think it was Buddle who more or less body-slammed Mathis and didn't even get a talking to. There were a bunch of obnoxious kids behind us that wanted LA to win solely because of Beckham, and they were actually cheering for PKs. Hopefully they've learned their lesson. (The RSL fans also started an over-rated chant after a Beckham free kick late in the game which made me chuckle. It was probably a bit unfair given Beckham's bum ankle, though.)
The Donovan PK miss was a shocker. He seems like a bit of a head case, so hopefully this doesn't affect him too much.
ESPN has announced Mauer is MVP.
He got 27 out of 28 first place votes!
All but one first place vote. It went to Miguel Cabrera.
That night out during the stretch run must have put him over the top.
Let a hundred flowers bloom.
Not that there was really any doubt, but Joe Mauer is your 2009 MVP!
Not that he was going to be cheap, but Joe just got a hell of a lot more expensive.
Hell yes Joe.
Who the hell cast that vote for Cabrera?
I bet he is from Detroit.
That was my first inclination as well.
Seattle, actually. Keizo Konishi gave him the love.
Nope and no way were the Detroit writers going to do that after his escapades down the stretch.
well it's pretty obvious. miggy's a guy who, when his team really needs him, they can really depend on him to do the right thing and come through for them. you know, he can help to do things like not blow a 7 game lead in one month.
by the way, it was some guy from seattle.
Cuddy tied for 21st, and 8th and a 10th place vote.
Kubel has 24th all to himself, with a single 8th place vote.
John Buck still has not appeared on an MVP ballot (not that he deserved it this year).
Mariano Rivera ranked 14th while Greinke is 17th. Zobrist is 8th though!
About a month back I mentioned that my knee popped while playing flag football and swelled up considerably. The pain went away the next day, so I didn't initially get it checked out, but finally went this morning. The doc is sending me for an MRI tomorrow, but the initial diagnosis was likely a partially torn ACL. Yippee...
Welcome to old age, Will.
Better that than a fully torn one. Moss has been through the reconstruction process. On the plus side, it did force Moss to get in the best shape of his life...aaah, the good old days.
Rehab after surgery is great way to get into shape. Be careful to workout both knees. My left shoulder is still slightly stronger than my right from working it harder during PT.
My knee popped back in college doing taekwondo, swelled up for a week, then seemed to get better, but it was never the same after that. Turned out the meniscus tore all the way through. Ten years later the torn edges had become really ragged and started folding back into the joint and locking my knee up. I had to have about 30% of the cartilage removed. The Vicodin was nice, though.
Next on Mauer's checklist? The Hitter of the Year Goblet.
Ive never really paid attention to birds until about the summer months when Goldfinches would invade the back yard.
Today, I learned about 2 more the White breasted Nuthatch. I thought, hey thats a pretty small bluejay, but the only relation is that they are both birds
Also hanging around the house are dark-eyed Juncos. I've seen them before, I just called them 'birds'
I really enjoy watching the birds at the feeders. The nuthatches might be my favorite. I recommend getting The Sibley Field Guide to Birds of Easter North America if you want to learn more about the various birds.
I can be quite an avid birdwatcher in the spring (when all sorts migrate through and I'm enthusiastic to enjoy the outdoors). Nuthatches are the only birds that predominantly travel down the trunk of a tree. (Creepers and Woodpeckers go up, and Black & White Warblers go up and down.)
Our yard had about 30 Juncos one afternoon in late October, hadn't seen them before or since.
Best of the decade honoree of the week
Who made the most right turns at first base over the last 10 years? You're about to find out.
Most outs in the '00s:
1. Miguel Tejada, 4,706.
2. Orlando Cabrera, 4,621.
3. Jimmy Rollins, 4,532.
4. Derek Jeter, 4,472.4
5. Johnny Damon, 4,461.
What name sticks out on that list? OUTCab?
But he was doing it for the team!
Most SF in the '00s:
1. Orlando Cabrera, 76
1. Mike Lowell, 76
3. Carlos Lee, 75
4. Bobby Abreu, 66
5. Carlos Delgado, 65
What name sticks out on that list? OUTCab?
Damon. The others all have a position in common.
Strange story...two fingers of Galileo were found in a jar.
I never cared for Italian liqueur, I like something with more kick.
Presented for amusement:
The Colts' and Saints' magic numbers for wining their divisions is 2. The Vikings' is 3. The Cardinals' is 4.
(Vikings own their tiebreaker over 2nd place team, having swept Packers. No other team has.)
For gold, ctrl+f "delmon" all the way through.