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Cup of Coffee: November 24, 2009In honor of Joe Mauer's MVP, I'm going to retire the "should have drafted Mark Prior" joke today. I'm saying that using this joke after today will be generally frowned on. So, your task today is to use it or variations of it. If the Twins would have drafted Mark Prior, they wouldn't have to worry about enraging the fan base by not being able to sign him to a long term deal and letting him end up with the Yankees. See how easy it is? This entry was posted by SBG
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I still think we should have drafted Prior. Mauer gets hurt too often! He missed all of April!!
Who is this Mark Prior guy you all keep talking about?
Only the greatest pitcher ever...
I don't know if was stated, but Danny B apologized to Mauer on air yesterday. I give him credit for that, for admitting he was wrong.
I so wanted Mauer to say to DB: "Whattya think of me now?" Alas, Joe is much too gracious to do that. DB would have thrown a gasket (maybe not then, but later).
I give him credit for nothing. He should've done it years ago.
I listened after the interview and Danny B was defending his position by saying Mauer was nothing but a glorified singles hitter in past years.
I still think DB doesn't even believe half the crap he's saying. He's no different than the blowhards on the political talk shows.
Tell me how he's any more valuable to the sports discourse in this town than Sid Hartman. I want to know.
Sid is much easier to mock, but you can only do it on Sundays. Dan is a daily occurrence.
I think Dan Barrieo is the Glen Beck of Sports commentators-- only Barriero is more deranged than Beck. If you combine his faux outrage, his repeated straw-man arguments, his tired contrarian stick and throw in the fact he is mean, petty and disingenuous, he is much worse than Sid. The fact that he is the 800 lb gorilla of sports talkers in this town is just sad and I long for the day where someone with some gravitas in the media would start calling him out.
Of course, he was also saying in August that Mauer shouldn't be in the MVP discussion because his team wasn't in it.
At the same time one of his lackeys was saying that positional adjustments are bogus. That same lackey still believes Morneau to be the better player.
The Mauer rant is just an extension of Danny's schtick. He is not, nor never will be a true Minnesotan. I think he clearly resents being trapped in this "hell-hole" of a sports market, and is disappointed that a bigger, glitzier opportunity has not fallen in his lap. All he does is bash the local sports fans as a bunch of uneducated homers. I used to turn on KFAN every time I drove down to the cities, but have given up the past few years. Danny B, and the common man are just un-listenable. Common takes 5 minutes to stutter out a 30 second take on a given topic. I can stomach some PA, as he is listenable, but unfortunately pretty limited in depth of analysis. We really lack for any quality sports talk in this town.
Danny should just mosey on back to Dallas. It's a perfect fit.
(Have I mentioned how much I loathe Dallas?)
I think that's a great idea -- perhaps a seed could be planted with Clear Channel that Dallas needs Danny B. and he could be shipped off to Dallas for a bag of beans and some low-level intern.
Think of all the rubes yet to be savaged.
anny should just mosey on back to Dallas.
Dude, I know that you want rid of the man, but into my new home market?
I ain't goin' down without a fight.
Did anyone see the opening of SNL this past Saturday? I won't like to it since it could be considered political (although it is more US-China politics than US-US) but it was hilarious.
Reusse fesses up:
Craig Biggio was a mediocre catcher??? All-Star catcher Craig Biggio? That one? Or was it the other Craig Biggio?
One of the greatest days in Twins history:
NE1 out there with photoshopping skills?
Depends on what you want, for instance, I can give DanB a poop mustache....
I don't want to brag, but I did create
Victorge Posapoli
I'll be in touch, gentlemen. A statue is needed!
Oooh, try a Wave!
A statue you say....
v 1.2
Bravo, sir!
a masterpiece!
My attempt:
Oops... Those are both fantastic.
The glove hand in v1.2 is a nice touch.
Which Arcade Fire album is better? Funeral or Neon Bible. Click my name to join the debate.
I Should Coco
http://www.startribune.com/galleries/50508117.html?elr=KArksi8cyaiUqCP:iUiacyKUUr
Mauer with #16? That just seems....wrong..
#71 is really wrong... That's Neshek's number!
at least he wasn't #42. That will forever be Butch Huskey.
Or #23. Free Bobby Kielty!
From the I'll never understand it department:
Why is it that sportswriters will routinely reference the cockamamie Passer Rating stat (a made up statistic if there ever was one) but balk at advanced stats to describe a baseball player's contribution?
Because there's no alternative like RBIs or W-L.
Whatcha talking about? There's nothing more intuitive than the NFL passer rating.
What I don't understand, is how he was widely considered so great and yet THIS is arguably his greatest year. He truly is the Derek Jeter of the pigskin. Or Pete Rose.
I think there are 2 categories of quarterbacks, when it comes to listing who is the best.
Prolific Passers: Favre > Manning (for now) > Marino > Tarkenton for example.
Greatest Quarterbacks: Manning > Montana = Brady > Unitas > Elway = Bradshaw for another example.
Right now, as Peyton is on both lists, he would be my greatest of all time (but oh, so close). Peyton and Brady knocked Favre off that list over the last couple of years. If Favre can win another superbowl with the Purple, I would put him on the "Greatest" list once again.
I should preface the above comment with the disclaimer that:
"no statistics were used when forming these lists. All opinions are generated in a vague, MVP-like lack of clearly defined criteria, process and are not the opinions of the web-site owner, nor it's membership, and is intended for the strict use of being savaged with in depth statistic analysis and satire.
I cannot abide the Elway=Bradshaw there. Elway >> Bradshaw.
I have always liked Elway more. Bradshaw as an announcer really irritates me. However, I was thinking that 4 superbowl rings, and the ability to throw a deadly long ball trumped 2 rings, deadly escapability, and a face like a horse.
he was a Bronco, after all
Elway is the only QB to start 5 Super Bowls. Yes, he got mauled in three of them, but he had a terrific arm, great running skills and legendary drives. Plus, he did that helicopter spin in the Super Bowl and beat the Packers. I just think he was a better QB than Terry.
Where does acting ability in McConaughey movies fit? He was naked!!!
As a Browns fan, both Elway and Bradshaw chap my ass.
You have other grievances as well, I would imagine.
Too many to enumerate. But, hey, I heard they might actually be considering bringing Holmgren in to coach, and that he might actually be interested. That's the first straw I could find to clutch all year.
The Vikings should have drafted Mark Prior.
Move Prior to 3rd.
FTW!
I'm okay with retiring the "Prior!" meme as long as "Hinske!" is still on the board.
If the Twins had drafted Mark Prior, we wouldn't have abused him like Baker did. Thus, we can conclude:
A)Prior wins the Cy Young in 02, 03, and 04 with the Twins
B)Prior inspires the Twins to keep Ortiz and let him swing for the fences.
C)Prior's guidance leads to Joe Mays not injuring his arm, thus Mays becomes a perennial Cy Young candidate himself.
D)Oh, of course, the Twins win the World Series in 02, 03, and 04 with Prior's help.
E)After winning the World Series, Jason Kubel decides not to join the Arizona Fall League and therefore doesn't hurt his knee.
F)Jason Kubel hits 45 homers with a .345 batting average in 06. He wins MVP and the Twins win their fourth world series in five years. They beat the Cubs in a thrilling seven-game series in which Joe Mauer hits 13 singles for the losing team, none of them with men on base.
G)Santana loves winning so much that he decides to take a massive pay cut to stay with the team.
H)A.J. Pierzynski is still beloved as the Twins all-star catcher.
I)???
J)Profit!!!
Beau, we still need a closer! That's what item (I) is, right?
If ever one needs a smiley for bare buttocks, (I) is what you're looking for.
If I knew twitspeak, I could do something like:
but my syntax is probably wrong.
(l) probably works just as well, as would (1).
I'm such a 3rd Grader. I apologize, but I just can't not see that.
Font dependent. (I) looks good here. Excellent Twitter speak.
Just curious. What would happen if I called Barriero a (Y)?
He called Mauer one. The punishment fits the crime, right?
He'd probably start crying, given that he blocked me from his Twitter Feed (Danny! I can read you anyway simply by going to the link to your feed directly) for making two playful jabs about Mark Prior.
What would happen if I called Barriero a (Y)
Twayn, I <3 you.
That Joe Mauer. What a waste of a roster spot. Pffftt.
If the Twins had drafted Prior, there wouldn't be any angry Yankees fans right now because one of their guys would likely have won the MVP. What fun would that be?
Hey boss...posts are going all over the place. Timestamps are not in order. Chaos!!!!
I think the problem is the LTE about "Poopie Doopie" below. I originally put that in the wrong post and used the "Move" function to move it here. I don't think that works very well.
That is, it doesn't allow nesting and it sits on the bottom of the post. Plus, I think it screwed up my comment RSS feed. So, I won't be doing that again.
Joe C.'s MVP ballot.
I knew it, but no Choo.
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2009/11/dodgers-phillies-pursuing-juan-castro.html
"Who doesn't like Juan Castro?"
edit: I don't know why it put it here
Chase Utley was somehow left off of 14 ballots. WHY DO WRITERS NOT LOVE THIS GUY?!?!?!? He's like David Eckstein, but good.
Utley was pretty awesome in the playoffs, .296/.424/.648/1.072. We can only dream of that kind of production from 2nd base.
As a lawyer you would know better than I, Boss, but isn't Prior restraint illegal under the First Amendment?
He's just saying he has a Prior commitment.
Am I Congress?
Walter Sobchak is going to finish his coffee
I am disappointed that you will begin exercising Prior Restraint on us.
I guess a man has to keep his Priorities in order. But what happens to all of our Prior Knowledge?
btw, if the Twins had just drafted Mark Prior, Brett Favre would have retired as a Packer and Daunte Culpepper would be leading the Vikings to their fifth or sixth Super Bowl title of the decade by now.
You Choose:
1) Getting home on time
2) Spending a extra 2-1/2 hrs (free!) at beautiful Eppley Airport, Omaha.
Not even close to 50/50 voting today. Wonder if DPWY is flying in here today?
Nope, driving down tomorrow afternoon.
GW is 4-0, baby!!! Two years in the wilderness and some serious soul-searching by Coach Hobbs and he refocused himself and brought in a great frosh class. Things are looking up in Foggy Bottom again.
(Oh, and for the worst-kept secret in town, the POTUS will be at the next GW game on Saturday. Last time a sitting Pres took in a GW game, they knocked off #1 UMass and Calipari in front of Bill and Chelsea.)
I just want to relive the first 15 seconds of this video over and over. 84 days until catchers and pitchers report...
Last night at dinner, I mentioned to the wife that Joe Mauer won the MVP award. Miss SBG interrupted: "He's my favorite player!" Then, I asked her what she thinks of the Red Sox. She replied, "Poopie Doopie!" Close, the correct answer is "They make me want to puke."
I work on these things, people.
At our house it's, "Where do Badger fans sleep?"
"In the garage."
From 2001-2008, and ongoing conversation at the zooomx household (especially around Packer fans fans):
Dad : Son, who is your favorite football team?
Boy : The Vikings!
Dad : What do you think of the Packers?
Boy : Yuck!
Dad : What do you think of Brett Favre?
Boy : Brett Favre stinky!!
So, in August, the boy was insanely p!ssed that the Vikes signed Favre. Now, a few months later, he wants a Favre jersey for Christmas. Ahhh... I am raising a true bandwagon jumping Vikings fan. I am pretty sure I totally raked the Vikes for this move in August on this site. If Favre keeps this up, I might have to pull a Barreiro and admit I was wrong (sort of).
The kids in my house are so ingrained against the Yankees that they were cheering for the Patriots over the Jets on Sunday. I had to tell them that the Pats are kindof like the Yankees of football, but not as bad.
"Poopie Doopie!"
Now that's what I call good parenting!
I think "Poopie Doopie" would certainly be accepted on Jeopardy!, so I wouldn't hold it against her.
I desperately wanted Favre to sign with the Vikings. No matter how he played, it was a win in my book. I mean, even the thought of it caused me to break my self-imposed ban on talking NFL here. I never dreamed he'd be what he's been so far, though.
The girl keeps getting Red Sox paraphernalia from her aunt, so it is important to make sure that she's properly educated.
We got an MLB merchandise catalog in the mail yesterday. Daughter the Younger sat down at the kitchen table, counted the number of items in the catalog, and divided it by the number of Twins items represented, and found that our team was under-represented. Then she counted Yankees and Red Sox items and found they were quite over-represented. She complained about the injustice of it for hours. So, yes, proper education is vitally important in parenting.
Twayn,
Ask her to find out how represented the Royals and D~Backs are.
Break it down for all teams.
I'd guess the Twins are near median representation. Have her explain why Median and Average are not the same, and uner what circumstances one is higher than the other.
Have daughter the elder take the younger's results and regress representation against 2009 wins (including playoff wins), total wins the past 5 years (again including playoffs), 2009 payroll, total payroll past 5 years, revenue (if available), population base of the local MSA (dividing by two for CHI, LA, NY, and DC-BAL). Which of these is a better indicator of MLB catalog representation? Is the relationship linear or otherwise? Which franchises are furthest off the best-fit regressed line? Can you venture any explanations for the teams that show the most variance?
This'll be awesome... Brings in geography, statistics, and recent baseball history.
I'd like their report, at least 5 pages of double-spaced text, with calculation tables in the appendices (not included in the length), to my office by 4:30 pm and Weds, Dec 23. A grade will be assigned by Jan. 4. This is a group project... all group members get the same grade. No exceptions!
You wouldn't happen to work with numbers for a living, would you AMR? Like an actuary or something?
AMR, if I could get them to do that I'd have them trading derivatives so I could retire early.
I was just thinking what I would do if I had an MLB catalog and a laptop with excel but no internet while at the in-laws this weekend.
Also, watch out for your nest egg when the kids are trading derivatives. If you're not hedging actual positions you have, you're just straight-out gambling.